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Why has codeproject become such a downer ?

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  • C Chris Maunder

    In a world (esp. IT) where everything is hyped to the point where it's more about how you look, how you sound, how many millions you have in VC funding rather than reality I welcome a voice that isn't afraid to say that the Emperor has no clothes.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Patrice T
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    :thumbsup:

    Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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    • R raddevus

      I think they're meant to be light witticisms and to me they come off that way. I think they're amusing. They're just making fun of technology -- which is often overhyped anyways. Keep in mind, no animals were harmed during the creation of those snarky comments. :laugh:

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      Sander Rossel
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      raddevus wrote:

      Keep in mind, no animals were harmed during the creation of those snarky comments. :laugh:

      You don't think Kent makes a blood offer to the great Cthulhu to come up with those snarky comments? :D

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      • B BillWoodruff

        Member 8007155 wrote:

        Why the need for repetitive sarcasm on every link?

        Because unadulterated hype is smut.

        «Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin

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        BillWoodruff wrote:

        unadulterated hype is smut

        How about simply report the fact ... or an unbiased statement of the articles content ? Currently codeproject is turning into a click bait bucket - and that's an ugly look.

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        • K Kevin Marois

          Ya, but the real question is why you posted this in Insider News?

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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          Kevin Marois wrote:

          why you posted this in Insider News?

          Why not - it is the forum that the "comment" link on the email takes you too. Would have rather posted it to the newsletter author, but alas that does not seem possible. Appears he/she is happy to deal it out but not able/willing to take it. Or is question from a point of "why bother"? The articles are still honest, it is just the clickbait styled newsletter which has become toxic. Time to cure the disease.

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          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

            The newsletter is aimed at software developers, and we are pretty cynical people. I like it :)

            utf8-cpp

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            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

            aimed at software developers

            Perhaps I am against the trend here. Rather than fight the mood should I create a number of alts and start hammering this treatment out to new articles as they come in. A snide remark her, a down vote there, a false claim about sample code not working ... aim at the heart of those developers? Follow the leader. Ah, if only developer had hearts. And trolling is way more fun/easier.

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            • U User 7972889

              Got the latest newletter email and it is truly depressing; The Daily Downer[^] Why the need for repetitive sarcasm on every link? When did the codeproject staff start turning out this bitch rag, looking to past posts and I can see it has been off for some time now, guess the saturation of negativity has just reached its limit - or perhaps it is just standing out as a bitter pill within Christmas joy. Only appears to be the staffers, articles have not (yet) turned - so what's changed?

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              If you don't like the new letter, you can unsubscribe.

              Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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              • U User 7972889

                Kevin Marois wrote:

                why you posted this in Insider News?

                Why not - it is the forum that the "comment" link on the email takes you too. Would have rather posted it to the newsletter author, but alas that does not seem possible. Appears he/she is happy to deal it out but not able/willing to take it. Or is question from a point of "why bother"? The articles are still honest, it is just the clickbait styled newsletter which has become toxic. Time to cure the disease.

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                Kent Sharkey
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                I'll get Chris to add a link to our email up top of this page, but for the reference, it's insider@codeproject.com. Or, you can always DM Kent (the account used to post all these) And yes, I read all comments, so feel free to snark away (from behind your anonymous member name).

                TTFN - Kent

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                • U User 7972889

                  Got the latest newletter email and it is truly depressing; The Daily Downer[^] Why the need for repetitive sarcasm on every link? When did the codeproject staff start turning out this bitch rag, looking to past posts and I can see it has been off for some time now, guess the saturation of negativity has just reached its limit - or perhaps it is just standing out as a bitter pill within Christmas joy. Only appears to be the staffers, articles have not (yet) turned - so what's changed?

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                  Scott Serl
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                  Au contraire, it is not a downer, but instead, brings a smile to my face each day.

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                  • U User 7972889

                    Got the latest newletter email and it is truly depressing; The Daily Downer[^] Why the need for repetitive sarcasm on every link? When did the codeproject staff start turning out this bitch rag, looking to past posts and I can see it has been off for some time now, guess the saturation of negativity has just reached its limit - or perhaps it is just standing out as a bitter pill within Christmas joy. Only appears to be the staffers, articles have not (yet) turned - so what's changed?

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                    wout de zeeuw
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                    Your message is the biggest downer in the insider I've seen so far.

                    Wout

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                    • W wout de zeeuw

                      Your message is the biggest downer in the insider I've seen so far.

                      Wout

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                      wout de zeeuw wrote:

                      the biggest downer

                      Funny stuff ... almost as funny as that "www.woutware.com[^]" web site ... site report gave up on the review, too many errors - classic. Guessing the products are lacking the same quality. And about time you implemented touch support on that site ... what century did you knock that up in, not to mention the out-of-support .Net versions you (cough) products are offered on ... and lastly iis7.0 - at least you have deployed .Net4.0 there (less security patches - lol). Happy to ignore your post on any one of the above points - troll fail ;P

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                        wout de zeeuw wrote:

                        the biggest downer

                        Funny stuff ... almost as funny as that "www.woutware.com[^]" web site ... site report gave up on the review, too many errors - classic. Guessing the products are lacking the same quality. And about time you implemented touch support on that site ... what century did you knock that up in, not to mention the out-of-support .Net versions you (cough) products are offered on ... and lastly iis7.0 - at least you have deployed .Net4.0 there (less security patches - lol). Happy to ignore your post on any one of the above points - troll fail ;P

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                        Thank you for taking the time for a thorough review of our products! Guess I struck a nerve there ;).

                        Wout

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                        • K Kent Sharkey

                          I'll get Chris to add a link to our email up top of this page, but for the reference, it's insider@codeproject.com. Or, you can always DM Kent (the account used to post all these) And yes, I read all comments, so feel free to snark away (from behind your anonymous member name).

                          TTFN - Kent

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                          Kent Sharkey wrote:

                          free to snark away

                          So generous of you - and given the endorsement how could I refuse. Can see by the sentiment of the reply I would be wasting me time doing nothing else. Keep up the fight to knock everyone else down, speaks volume.

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                            If you don't like the new letter, you can unsubscribe.

                            Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                            ppolymorphe wrote:

                            unsubscribe

                            The community articles are worth while ... it is the new letter which sucks. The person compiling the newsletter is obviously too lazy to look at the contents worth, and instead just makes snide comments ... cheap and boring :zzz: And funnier still is the way in which codeproject continues to collect revenue from add space for those very same companies it attempts to ridicule ... cheap, boring and obviously willing to sell its own beliefs for a few cents. Easier to ignore rather than taint actual contributors.

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                              Kent Sharkey wrote:

                              free to snark away

                              So generous of you - and given the endorsement how could I refuse. Can see by the sentiment of the reply I would be wasting me time doing nothing else. Keep up the fight to knock everyone else down, speaks volume.

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                              Kent Sharkey
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                              Sorry you feel that way, and I'm sorry you feel that I'm "knocking everyone else down". Perhaps you'll accept this invite to submit news items (either to this forum, or using the email address I provided earlier)with more appropriate blurbs. If we like them, they end up in the newsletter. Alternately, feel free to point out items you feel have crossed the line. As for your original question, not much has changed lately. Bob, Shane, and I have been doing the newsletter for a few years now. I know we've made an effort to use fewer song lyrics lately, but other than that, I can't think of any changes.

                              TTFN - Kent

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                              • K Kent Sharkey

                                Sorry you feel that way, and I'm sorry you feel that I'm "knocking everyone else down". Perhaps you'll accept this invite to submit news items (either to this forum, or using the email address I provided earlier)with more appropriate blurbs. If we like them, they end up in the newsletter. Alternately, feel free to point out items you feel have crossed the line. As for your original question, not much has changed lately. Bob, Shane, and I have been doing the newsletter for a few years now. I know we've made an effort to use fewer song lyrics lately, but other than that, I can't think of any changes.

                                TTFN - Kent

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                                Mycroft Holmes
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                                Snark snark Don't apologise, don't change, you do not need to conform to the PC, wishy washy, namby pamby minority who are frightened by a little sarcasm. In all the years you guys have been doing this you can probably count the complaints on one hand. The rest of us enjoy your wit.

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                • D den2k88

                                  You're definitely right, it sounds like a Metal Church medley :D You're blinded by life And you hide in the darkness Take another pill A pill for the kill!

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                                  Speaking of Metal Church, I'm looking forward to the new release with Mike Howe back on vocals.

                                  "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                                    Snark snark Don't apologise, don't change, you do not need to conform to the PC, wishy washy, namby pamby minority who are frightened by a little sarcasm. In all the years you guys have been doing this you can probably count the complaints on one hand. The rest of us enjoy your wit.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    Kent Sharkey
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                                    Thank you for the kind words! :)

                                    TTFN - Kent

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