This article was marked as deleted at 4 Feb 2016.
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So what was happening was companies were hiring evangelists or technical writers to write articles that teach readers about or how to use their products. They would pay them and it would look on the up and up - the author didn't seem to have any apparent ties to the company and the company would get visibility for their product and links to their site. Then we would stumble across these posts, think they were fishy, remove them, and start hearing through our sales team that the marketing department of the company who's article we just deleted, "why can't we just post this one little article?" Big companies, small companies. And not one or two times. Many, many, times. You're a long time member and I have no doubt you're just writing an article about how Docusign helped you in the hopes that it helps others. The sad fact is that if we allow your article, it becomes grounds to accept the articles of the aforementioned scenarios. It's not fair and we don't like to do it this way, but it got too hairy out there and the people who abused the system ruined it for everyone else. Now, if people want to write an article about a problem they solved or a method they used to get around a problem they experienced in a third party product or service, that's more than welcome. A-OK.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
So from now on, when an article like this (Decrypt SQL Server Objects - CodeProject[^]) appears in the moderation queue, it shouldn't be approved? Which report action should be taken?
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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So from now on, when an article like this (Decrypt SQL Server Objects - CodeProject[^]) appears in the moderation queue, it shouldn't be approved? Which report action should be taken?
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
Report the article as "spam/abusive" but not the account, if you please. Although this appears to be free, is that the case? Then it's OK. However, if it is associated with a paid component, no matter how tenuously, it is not OK. I've been meaning to get that little bit added to the submission guidelines.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
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Report the article as "spam/abusive" but not the account, if you please. Although this appears to be free, is that the case? Then it's OK. However, if it is associated with a paid component, no matter how tenuously, it is not OK. I've been meaning to get that little bit added to the submission guidelines.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
You may post an update about it so all moderators be aware of the changes...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Report the article as "spam/abusive" but not the account, if you please. Although this appears to be free, is that the case? Then it's OK. However, if it is associated with a paid component, no matter how tenuously, it is not OK. I've been meaning to get that little bit added to the submission guidelines.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
If you edit the guidelines, you might edit the sticky post in the Spam and abuse watch, so everyone get informed
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Report the article as "spam/abusive" but not the account, if you please. Although this appears to be free, is that the case? Then it's OK. However, if it is associated with a paid component, no matter how tenuously, it is not OK. I've been meaning to get that little bit added to the submission guidelines.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
What about this? Continuous Integration with Teamcity - CodeProject[^] It seems to have a free version with less functionality and a professional one to be bought.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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What about this? Continuous Integration with Teamcity - CodeProject[^] It seems to have a free version with less functionality and a professional one to be bought.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Thanks very much for the report. I've added it to the list.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
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Thanks very much for the report. I've added it to the list.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
you are welcome
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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So what was happening was companies were hiring evangelists or technical writers to write articles that teach readers about or how to use their products. They would pay them and it would look on the up and up - the author didn't seem to have any apparent ties to the company and the company would get visibility for their product and links to their site. Then we would stumble across these posts, think they were fishy, remove them, and start hearing through our sales team that the marketing department of the company who's article we just deleted, "why can't we just post this one little article?" Big companies, small companies. And not one or two times. Many, many, times. You're a long time member and I have no doubt you're just writing an article about how Docusign helped you in the hopes that it helps others. The sad fact is that if we allow your article, it becomes grounds to accept the articles of the aforementioned scenarios. It's not fair and we don't like to do it this way, but it got too hairy out there and the people who abused the system ruined it for everyone else. Now, if people want to write an article about a problem they solved or a method they used to get around a problem they experienced in a third party product or service, that's more than welcome. A-OK.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
Sean, a suggestion regarding the potentially to-be removed articles on commercial third-party products: Maybe you can find a way to let them stay available to CP-members but not indexable by search engines — which should mostly achieve the goal of not serving as a free advertisement platform for the respective companies? Not admitting new such articles notwithstanding. Alternatively maybe offering the removed articles as a time-limited download? It just occurred to me that I'll soon need some helpful resources with DevExpress stuff and it would be a shame if the articles at that point have been removed without a trace ;) cheers, Sascha
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Sean, a suggestion regarding the potentially to-be removed articles on commercial third-party products: Maybe you can find a way to let them stay available to CP-members but not indexable by search engines — which should mostly achieve the goal of not serving as a free advertisement platform for the respective companies? Not admitting new such articles notwithstanding. Alternatively maybe offering the removed articles as a time-limited download? It just occurred to me that I'll soon need some helpful resources with DevExpress stuff and it would be a shame if the articles at that point have been removed without a trace ;) cheers, Sascha
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
We have an alternative solution we'll be rolling out this week.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
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So what was happening was companies were hiring evangelists or technical writers to write articles that teach readers about or how to use their products. They would pay them and it would look on the up and up - the author didn't seem to have any apparent ties to the company and the company would get visibility for their product and links to their site. Then we would stumble across these posts, think they were fishy, remove them, and start hearing through our sales team that the marketing department of the company who's article we just deleted, "why can't we just post this one little article?" Big companies, small companies. And not one or two times. Many, many, times. You're a long time member and I have no doubt you're just writing an article about how Docusign helped you in the hopes that it helps others. The sad fact is that if we allow your article, it becomes grounds to accept the articles of the aforementioned scenarios. It's not fair and we don't like to do it this way, but it got too hairy out there and the people who abused the system ruined it for everyone else. Now, if people want to write an article about a problem they solved or a method they used to get around a problem they experienced in a third party product or service, that's more than welcome. A-OK.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
This is the second time your removing this article, I took your advice and changed to be more about my experience using the this tool as a Rest API. My understanding was this article was removed because I had placed it in the Third Party tools section. I believe my edits and re-submission of this article NOT in the Third party conform to your what you wrote above "
Now, if people want to write an article about a problem they solved or a method they used to get around a problem they experienced in a third party product or service, that's more than welcome. A-OK.
" This was written about an experience I personally had and how I used this to help. In addition I removed DocuSign from the title since this is really about using their Rest API. There is definitely added value, I already received a question on using the tags to be positioned by searched string rather than position on a page. Steve
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This is the second time your removing this article, I took your advice and changed to be more about my experience using the this tool as a Rest API. My understanding was this article was removed because I had placed it in the Third Party tools section. I believe my edits and re-submission of this article NOT in the Third party conform to your what you wrote above "
Now, if people want to write an article about a problem they solved or a method they used to get around a problem they experienced in a third party product or service, that's more than welcome. A-OK.
" This was written about an experience I personally had and how I used this to help. In addition I removed DocuSign from the title since this is really about using their Rest API. There is definitely added value, I already received a question on using the tags to be positioned by searched string rather than position on a page. Steve
What I meant was "you overcame a problem inherent with the program or service." This latest article was still written in a "how-to-use" fashion. So if during your use of DocuSign you encountered some problem and you figured a way around it, we would welcome an article on THAT. I'd be happy to review an idea before you wrote an article. I don't want to do it after the fact. I'm sure you just want to help the community, which is great, but the tone of the article was too close to what I would expect in a paid Product Review, which would encourage less well-intentioned authors to abuse the system.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
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What I meant was "you overcame a problem inherent with the program or service." This latest article was still written in a "how-to-use" fashion. So if during your use of DocuSign you encountered some problem and you figured a way around it, we would welcome an article on THAT. I'd be happy to review an idea before you wrote an article. I don't want to do it after the fact. I'm sure you just want to help the community, which is great, but the tone of the article was too close to what I would expect in a paid Product Review, which would encourage less well-intentioned authors to abuse the system.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
Cool, let me re-work the article... My intentions are not to advertise for anyone, you can see with the other articles I have posted that is not the case. This helps me to have a central repository of my thoughts and experiences. I'll reach out to you before I commit any changes to see what you think. Steve
