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  • S Shog9 0

    Choose your opinion(s) (no write-ins):

    1. When unjust rulers, corrupt officials, and an apathetic populous plague us, civil disobedience is the best and only option.
    2. Damn spoiled kids, thinking a day of rowdy marching speaks louder than the previous days spent in coffeeshops wearing sweatshop clothing.
    3. Out-of-touch hippies, providing a cover for looters and anarchists.
    4. Irrelevant in this day and age.
    5. Goooooood eatin'!

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    1 Given that the protests are made within the laws. Making your voice heard and torching a building for example, are two separate actions. :) -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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      Choose your opinion(s) (no write-ins):

      1. When unjust rulers, corrupt officials, and an apathetic populous plague us, civil disobedience is the best and only option.
      2. Damn spoiled kids, thinking a day of rowdy marching speaks louder than the previous days spent in coffeeshops wearing sweatshop clothing.
      3. Out-of-touch hippies, providing a cover for looters and anarchists.
      4. Irrelevant in this day and age.
      5. Goooooood eatin'!

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      Not one of them, IMO, should be called beer. Maybe malt flavored mineral water. - Jörgen Sigvardsson on Bud, Coors and Miller

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      KaRl
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      The first one. "When the government violates the rights of the people, insurrection is for the people and for each portion of the people the most sacred of rights and the most indispensable of duties."


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      • J Jason Henderson

        5 But I don't like them bruised like those we caught after the protests in Oakland the other day. You can eat around that though. Also, #3. They are a cover for anarchists and several communist groups.

        Jason Henderson
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        Chris Losinger
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        Jason Henderson wrote: They are a cover for anarchists and several communist groups or sometimes for such organizations as the republican party and anti-abortion groups. -c


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          How about we rate the message with our choice since there are five choices and there are five ratings. ;) Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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          Chris Meech wrote: How about we rate the message with our choice since there are five choices and there are five ratings. The ratings are weighted. (1.0 + 5.0) / 2 != 3 - Nitron


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            Jason Henderson wrote: They are a cover for anarchists and several communist groups or sometimes for such organizations as the republican party and anti-abortion groups. -c


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            Jason Henderson
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            There is a difference I believe. The commies and anarchists are hiding behind anti-war protests and setting their agendas. Republicans and anti-abortion people aren't hiding usually.

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            • J Jason Henderson

              There is a difference I believe. The commies and anarchists are hiding behind anti-war protests and setting their agendas. Republicans and anti-abortion people aren't hiding usually.

              Jason Henderson
              "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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              Chris Losinger
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              Jason Henderson wrote: There is a difference I believe. yeah. you approve of one set of causes and not the other. i wonder what would've happened had the Florida police opened fire on the people protesting outside the Gore campaign offices... -c


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                Jason Henderson wrote: There is a difference I believe. yeah. you approve of one set of causes and not the other. i wonder what would've happened had the Florida police opened fire on the people protesting outside the Gore campaign offices... -c


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                Chris Losinger wrote: yeah. you approve of one set of causes and not the other. You're pretty good at putting words in my mouth. No I don't approve of communism and anarchists, but they have a right to protest. However, they are hidding behind these anti-war protests making the legitamate protestors look illegitamate. BTW, that was just my opinion of the current crop of protestors, not the right to assemble in general. Chris Losinger wrote: i wonder what would've happened had the Florida police opened fire on the people protesting outside the Gore campaign offices... If those people were breaking the law and endangering others, then they should have been dispersed. I do think the cops should use restraint.

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                  Sadly, if a protester sits on the side of a pavement obstructing no one, it is not news - and no one cares. Since obstruction of normal life is the only thing that is attracting attention from media as well as governments, the protesters obstruct. How can I say that many of these people did not directly petition their senators and representatives, and the White House first, and send letters to media (which were either not replied or published) before rsorting to the obstructive protests? They may have and not got any conclusive reply; they may not have. I don't know. Sadly again, this is what terrorism is too. Palestine won't be at the top of the agenda, if there were no terrorists. Ireland would not be an issue, if people just sat in peaceful protests without obstructing anyone. I think that people in power need to address the problems of people, despite their political or economic clout. Again, I can only hope. I don't agree with either of the above; because I thnik that if I cannot provide a solution, and am not willing to put the effort, I don't have the right to do so. I don't know if a war is always a wrong answer. But, the diplomatic efforts of the US left way too much to be desired. GWB made it clear that the inspections will not have any bearing on whether the US will go to war with Iraq, even before the inspectors reached Iraq. No wonder others felt "Since US is going to war anyway, why give our blessings - we don't count in any case". Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                  J Dunlap
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                  Protesting does make a difference - if only in that it tells the US government that they'd better watch their step and not over-step their bounds. They were obviously alot more cautious than they were planning to be. Getting violent is not a good thing, and it in fact is going against the very thing they are protesting for.

                  "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." - Jesus
                  "An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi

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                  • S Shog9 0

                    Choose your opinion(s) (no write-ins):

                    1. When unjust rulers, corrupt officials, and an apathetic populous plague us, civil disobedience is the best and only option.
                    2. Damn spoiled kids, thinking a day of rowdy marching speaks louder than the previous days spent in coffeeshops wearing sweatshop clothing.
                    3. Out-of-touch hippies, providing a cover for looters and anarchists.
                    4. Irrelevant in this day and age.
                    5. Goooooood eatin'!

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                    Not one of them, IMO, should be called beer. Maybe malt flavored mineral water. - Jörgen Sigvardsson on Bud, Coors and Miller

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                    1 (Note that protesting is not always civil disobedience.)

                    "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." - Jesus
                    "An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi

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                    • J Jason Henderson

                      Chris Losinger wrote: yeah. you approve of one set of causes and not the other. You're pretty good at putting words in my mouth. No I don't approve of communism and anarchists, but they have a right to protest. However, they are hidding behind these anti-war protests making the legitamate protestors look illegitamate. BTW, that was just my opinion of the current crop of protestors, not the right to assemble in general. Chris Losinger wrote: i wonder what would've happened had the Florida police opened fire on the people protesting outside the Gore campaign offices... If those people were breaking the law and endangering others, then they should have been dispersed. I do think the cops should use restraint.

                      Jason Henderson
                      "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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                      Jason Henderson wrote: However, they are hidding behind these anti-war protests making the legitamate protestors look illegitamate. frankly, i think the pro-war people would disagree with them and their message regardless of who payed for the toilets. blaming it on "communists" and "anarchists" (why would an anarchist pay the fees for a rally?) is just a way to make it easier for you to dismiss people with whom you already disagree. Jason Henderson wrote: BTW, that was just my opinion of the current crop of protestors, not the right to assemble in general. if i recall, the original question was not specific to the current crop. maybe i misinterpreted your response. -c


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