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Is Agile still applicable?

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Elegant Code[^]:

    Like any business practice, Agile has evolved and matured in directions the original 17 signatories never imagined.

    Assuming you feel it once was

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      Elegant Code[^]:

      Like any business practice, Agile has evolved and matured in directions the original 17 signatories never imagined.

      Assuming you feel it once was

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      Duncan Edwards Jones
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      Grumpy Duncan's summarised Agile rant: 1) Agile is not about software, it is about team work (if you have 1 dev you are not Agile - if you have 50 you aren't either.. a team fits in a Land Rover with bench seats) 2) Agile is supposed to predicate retrospectives in which we analyse how the last sprint went (with metrics) and talk about how to improve the next sprint. This should mean that agile itself also evolves - so what it was a decade ago is not what it is now. 3) Before agile we were in a truly terrible place. Software projects were bringing companies to their knees. We aren't in the Elysian fields yet but we also are not where we were - Agile had a part in that. 4) Companies making a big deal of being Agile should be regarded with the same suspicion as you would give to hospitals making a big deal of hand washing. If it works it should be self evident and just done - if it doesn't we should have stopped talking about it by now. 5) Bad processes can't make good product. Bad people can't sustain good processes. Therefore if you have "transformation" money to spend - spend it in HR. Sunday caveat: I have been drinking

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        Grumpy Duncan's summarised Agile rant: 1) Agile is not about software, it is about team work (if you have 1 dev you are not Agile - if you have 50 you aren't either.. a team fits in a Land Rover with bench seats) 2) Agile is supposed to predicate retrospectives in which we analyse how the last sprint went (with metrics) and talk about how to improve the next sprint. This should mean that agile itself also evolves - so what it was a decade ago is not what it is now. 3) Before agile we were in a truly terrible place. Software projects were bringing companies to their knees. We aren't in the Elysian fields yet but we also are not where we were - Agile had a part in that. 4) Companies making a big deal of being Agile should be regarded with the same suspicion as you would give to hospitals making a big deal of hand washing. If it works it should be self evident and just done - if it doesn't we should have stopped talking about it by now. 5) Bad processes can't make good product. Bad people can't sustain good processes. Therefore if you have "transformation" money to spend - spend it in HR. Sunday caveat: I have been drinking

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        Camilo Reyes
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        Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

        a team fits in a Land Rover with bench seats

        YUS!!! I've seen many companies implement "agile" with no real concept of what a team is. I think this practical approach speaks wisdom. :)

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          Elegant Code[^]:

          Like any business practice, Agile has evolved and matured in directions the original 17 signatories never imagined.

          Assuming you feel it once was

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          Joe Woodbury
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          No. Next question.

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