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  • M Member 11683251

    So in a few years we can expect a new version of windows or a major overhaul of windows 10 that will try to go even further at reducing the keyboard size. Microsoft can't be outdone. Capslock will be permanently on and space and enter will both be removed.

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    ed welch
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    In fairness, there's lot's of keys that are worthless, like capslock and "the Windows key". They only serve to waste your time when you hit them by accident.

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      In fairness, there's lot's of keys that are worthless, like capslock and "the Windows key". They only serve to waste your time when you hit them by accident.

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      den2k88
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      In which world exactly? I use them all, including "Ins". Th only one I use very seldomly is Scroll Lock but only because software are dumb and does not support it.

      DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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        So in a few years we can expect a new version of windows or a major overhaul of windows 10 that will try to go even further at reducing the keyboard size. Microsoft can't be outdone. Capslock will be permanently on and space and enter will both be removed.

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        den2k88
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        You know that the only useful Micorsoft keyboard has only three keys: Ctrl, Alt and Del. EDIT: photographic proof[^]

        DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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          In which world exactly? I use them all, including "Ins". Th only one I use very seldomly is Scroll Lock but only because software are dumb and does not support it.

          DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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          ed welch
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          Seriously? I just wonder under what situations you continously need to type everything all in captials, because that happens to me like once every 5 years.

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            Seriously? I just wonder under what situations you continously need to type everything all in captials, because that happens to me like once every 5 years.

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            den2k88
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            Are you a developer or not? Constant and macro names are usually in all capital; in my code even structures and enums. Using meaningful names means having streaks of 10-20 characters to write in capitals, much better having a caps lock. Also in assembler code (I write it) all capitals are used in different shapes - those who write everything in caps, those who write only registers or memory areas, those who write only the opcodes... And, without programming, videogames. Usually the "Toggle always run" is on caps lock, as a logical consequence of having the run/walk on Shift. Ins I use a lot while correcting typos in code, whileo n videogames I use it for special actions like grenade launching or target homing; Esc is probably one of my most pressed keys as I use the keyboard as much as possible for input, so the "Cancel" button for me does not exist I escape from windows I don't click buttons. On videogames usually Esc goes straight to the system menu. And on serious browsers it stops the loading of the page. Each key is useful both in working and in gaming... probably only those who use the pc only for facebook can't see why and those people are switching to tablets anyway.

            DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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              Seriously? I just wonder under what situations you continously need to type everything all in captials, because that happens to me like once every 5 years.

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              lukeer
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              C preprocessor macros and constants are usually all caps in my work environment. Ciao, luker

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              • K Kent Sharkey

                The Verge[^]:

                So it turns out that images of Apple's new MacBook Pro, set to be unveiled on Thursday, are actually hiding inside the latest macOS Sierra update

                Because there is no escape from Apple?

                I guess they don't have any vim users at Apple?

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                Mark_Wallace
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                feh. Microsoft beat them to it. There's already no escape key on their OSK. ... Nor Alt. ... Nor PgUp ... Nor PgDn ... Nor up arrow ... Nor down arrow ... Nor F keys ... Nor Home key ... Nor End key ... Nor Delete key ... Nor -- Really hard to believe, this one -- A Windows Key! But it does give you 900 (900! no kidding!) emojis, so if your communication skills are at the level of a 5-year-old, you're set.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  feh. Microsoft beat them to it. There's already no escape key on their OSK. ... Nor Alt. ... Nor PgUp ... Nor PgDn ... Nor up arrow ... Nor down arrow ... Nor F keys ... Nor Home key ... Nor End key ... Nor Delete key ... Nor -- Really hard to believe, this one -- A Windows Key! But it does give you 900 (900! no kidding!) emojis, so if your communication skills are at the level of a 5-year-old, you're set.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  den2k88
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                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  900 (900! no kidding!)

                  900 I can believe, 900! is a bit excessive don't you think? ;P

                  DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                  • K Kent Sharkey

                    The Verge[^]:

                    So it turns out that images of Apple's new MacBook Pro, set to be unveiled on Thursday, are actually hiding inside the latest macOS Sierra update

                    Because there is no escape from Apple?

                    I guess they don't have any vim users at Apple?

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                    Scott Serl
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                    Kent Sharkey wrote:

                    I guess they don't have any vim users at Apple?

                    I knew they were a bunch of emacs bastards over there!

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                    • D den2k88

                      Are you a developer or not? Constant and macro names are usually in all capital; in my code even structures and enums. Using meaningful names means having streaks of 10-20 characters to write in capitals, much better having a caps lock. Also in assembler code (I write it) all capitals are used in different shapes - those who write everything in caps, those who write only registers or memory areas, those who write only the opcodes... And, without programming, videogames. Usually the "Toggle always run" is on caps lock, as a logical consequence of having the run/walk on Shift. Ins I use a lot while correcting typos in code, whileo n videogames I use it for special actions like grenade launching or target homing; Esc is probably one of my most pressed keys as I use the keyboard as much as possible for input, so the "Cancel" button for me does not exist I escape from windows I don't click buttons. On videogames usually Esc goes straight to the system menu. And on serious browsers it stops the loading of the page. Each key is useful both in working and in gaming... probably only those who use the pc only for facebook can't see why and those people are switching to tablets anyway.

                      DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                      ed welch
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                      constants don't have to be all capitals, neither does assembler... and for me they aren't. What can I say the few times I ever need captials I just hold down the shift key

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                      • D den2k88

                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                        900 (900! no kidding!)

                        900 I can believe, 900! is a bit excessive don't you think? ;P

                        DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                        Chris Maunder
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                        This is why people give us flat looks when we tell jokes at parties.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                          This is why people give us flat looks when we tell jokes at parties.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          den2k88
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                          I've been banned from all form of party with the exception of Dungeons and Dragons one - and not all of them either.

                          DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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