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  • K Kent Sharkey

    Brian Barto[^]:

    In a recent interview with Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, at approximately 14:20 in the interview, he made a quick point about coding with “good taste”.

    "Taste is the enemy of creativeness."

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    I promise to code with 'good taste' if Linus promise to behave in the same way...

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      I promise to code with 'good taste' if Linus promise to behave in the same way...

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      Tomaz Stih 0
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      He is Linus Torvalds. You are Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter. :-\

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      • K Kent Sharkey

        Brian Barto[^]:

        In a recent interview with Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, at approximately 14:20 in the interview, he made a quick point about coding with “good taste”.

        "Taste is the enemy of creativeness."

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        Dominic Burford
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        I don't really care for anything that Linus Torvalds has to say on anything. He's just such a complete jerk. Our industry has many great thought leaders (Grady Booch, Martin Fowler, Kent Beck, Ivar Jacobson etc) who don't resort to petty name calling and ass-hole behaviour. As a technically minded individual he is very good, but as a decent human being he is a complete failure.

        "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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        • K Kent Sharkey

          Brian Barto[^]:

          In a recent interview with Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, at approximately 14:20 in the interview, he made a quick point about coding with “good taste”.

          "Taste is the enemy of creativeness."

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          Maximilien
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          The idea that there are simpler and more elegant solution is a good and should be encouraged. The counter-point is that to find a more elegant and good taste code, it can take up a lot of time, especially when tying to optimize without any real measurements.

          I'd rather be phishing!

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          • K Kent Sharkey

            Brian Barto[^]:

            In a recent interview with Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, at approximately 14:20 in the interview, he made a quick point about coding with “good taste”.

            "Taste is the enemy of creativeness."

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            Marc Clifton
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            What's fascinating for me is, using a language like C#, where you can't really get the "address of" of property and re-assign it to another reference, I can't really figure out how to write this without an "if" statement that reassigns "head" if it's the element to be removed. Anyone? If that's so, it actually is a good example of how a language can affect "good taste." Marc

            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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            • K Kent Sharkey

              Brian Barto[^]:

              In a recent interview with Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, at approximately 14:20 in the interview, he made a quick point about coding with “good taste”.

              "Taste is the enemy of creativeness."

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              raddevus
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              Make code as ugly as you want to get it working...

              ...but do not forget to clean it up later... ...yes, I mean before selling it. :laugh:

              My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com.

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              • raddevusR raddevus

                Make code as ugly as you want to get it working...

                ...but do not forget to clean it up later... ...yes, I mean before selling it. :laugh:

                My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com.

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                Joe Woodbury
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                raddevus wrote:

                ...but do not forget to clean it up later...

                So writing "TODO: Clean this up" in the code isn't sufficient?

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                  What's fascinating for me is, using a language like C#, where you can't really get the "address of" of property and re-assign it to another reference, I can't really figure out how to write this without an "if" statement that reassigns "head" if it's the element to be removed. Anyone? If that's so, it actually is a good example of how a language can affect "good taste." Marc

                  Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  There are people out there who do not consider any language they do not use (know)... But to put Linus aside (after all he lacks the tools to explain himself in any human form)... The idea of good-taste-coding (which isn't originated from Linus) is about eliminating edge cases... Writing code that hides them (while handle them perfectly), so you actually do not see any conditions... Of course it automatically means that good-taste is not about IFs or addresses, but about using the language of your choose with high efficiency to produce clean code (and you probably saw the code samples in 'The Weird and The Wonderful' forum).

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  • raddevusR raddevus

                    Make code as ugly as you want to get it working...

                    ...but do not forget to clean it up later... ...yes, I mean before selling it. :laugh:

                    My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com.

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                    Kaladin
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                    Or just leave it for the next developer to fix... :sigh:

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                    • K Kaladin

                      Or just leave it for the next developer to fix... :sigh:

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                      raddevus
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                      Kaladin wrote:

                      Or just leave it for the next developer to fix...

                      Doh! You're not allowed to say that out loud! :laugh:

                      My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com.

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