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Scientists plan to send greetings to other worlds

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Phys.org[^]:

    After decades of fruitless scanning the skies for alien messages, scientists say it's time to try a basic rule of etiquette: Say "hello" first.

    "Sup, sup, suppertime!"

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      Phys.org[^]:

      After decades of fruitless scanning the skies for alien messages, scientists say it's time to try a basic rule of etiquette: Say "hello" first.

      "Sup, sup, suppertime!"

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      Member 11683251
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      Please let them avoid emojis and caps lock.

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        Phys.org[^]:

        After decades of fruitless scanning the skies for alien messages, scientists say it's time to try a basic rule of etiquette: Say "hello" first.

        "Sup, sup, suppertime!"

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        HarCohen18
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        They can start with Giese 710, since it will be in the vicinity of the solar system in a million years.

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          Phys.org[^]:

          After decades of fruitless scanning the skies for alien messages, scientists say it's time to try a basic rule of etiquette: Say "hello" first.

          "Sup, sup, suppertime!"

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          Daniel Pfeffer
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          Are they sending a [Message In A Bottle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbXWrmQW-OE)?

          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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            Phys.org[^]:

            After decades of fruitless scanning the skies for alien messages, scientists say it's time to try a basic rule of etiquette: Say "hello" first.

            "Sup, sup, suppertime!"

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            Nelek
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            I don't know what is worst... the idea of being alone in the universe or discovering that we are not...

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              I don't know what is worst... the idea of being alone in the universe or discovering that we are not...

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              The blog wait but why had a great article on fermis paradox. Made me think that we should be really careful with how we proceed as a species. But to ease my mind I came up with my own answer to it. Any sufficiently advanced species will develop AIs that's either take over or blurs the line between biological intelligence and artificial. As they develop and explore they will inevitably come to the conclusion that any other advanced species will go down the same route and come to the same conclusions as they and that as a civilization they only need to expand enough that they wont go extinct by sudden events as supernova or asteroid collisions etc. Because any sufficiently advanced spices will realise that they are "the same" in this regard they don't need to colonise that galaxy in order to protect from potential other civilizations and thus they don't. Not the most promising in itself because it's also a little sad because it also implies that there isn't anything to do at that point for a civilization other than just existing.

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                The blog wait but why had a great article on fermis paradox. Made me think that we should be really careful with how we proceed as a species. But to ease my mind I came up with my own answer to it. Any sufficiently advanced species will develop AIs that's either take over or blurs the line between biological intelligence and artificial. As they develop and explore they will inevitably come to the conclusion that any other advanced species will go down the same route and come to the same conclusions as they and that as a civilization they only need to expand enough that they wont go extinct by sudden events as supernova or asteroid collisions etc. Because any sufficiently advanced spices will realise that they are "the same" in this regard they don't need to colonise that galaxy in order to protect from potential other civilizations and thus they don't. Not the most promising in itself because it's also a little sad because it also implies that there isn't anything to do at that point for a civilization other than just existing.

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                Nelek
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                Interesting point of view... but the problem is... if they really are how you say so "similar" to us... what happened with the aborigens in all places where the "civilized" man has come? America, South-America, Australia... They were almost destroyed. What happens if the "new civilization" desperately needs resources that can be found here? And if they even are pacific as you say, then the probability that we screw the situation up is so high... sad but for now (an probably for a big while) we (as species) are such dumb... We fear what we don't understand, we hate what we fear and we try to destroy what we hate.

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  Interesting point of view... but the problem is... if they really are how you say so "similar" to us... what happened with the aborigens in all places where the "civilized" man has come? America, South-America, Australia... They were almost destroyed. What happens if the "new civilization" desperately needs resources that can be found here? And if they even are pacific as you say, then the probability that we screw the situation up is so high... sad but for now (an probably for a big while) we (as species) are such dumb... We fear what we don't understand, we hate what we fear and we try to destroy what we hate.

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  I think if two civilizations such as ours where to be close to each other (relatively) in distance then it would be a potential problem but if the distance is great enough between them then when they both have technology to expand outside the their solar system they will quickly reach the pacifist point. I have no way to really back up my thoughts but I do think its one possible scenario that at least would explain why our galaxy seemingly isn't colonized by one single dominant civilization yet.

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                    I think if two civilizations such as ours where to be close to each other (relatively) in distance then it would be a potential problem but if the distance is great enough between them then when they both have technology to expand outside the their solar system they will quickly reach the pacifist point. I have no way to really back up my thoughts but I do think its one possible scenario that at least would explain why our galaxy seemingly isn't colonized by one single dominant civilization yet.

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                    Member 11683251 wrote:

                    why our galaxy seemingly isn't colonized by one single dominant civilization yet.

                    that we know about yet ;)

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      Member 11683251 wrote:

                      why our galaxy seemingly isn't colonized by one single dominant civilization yet.

                      that we know about yet ;)

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      Member 11683251
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                      True, we might be in a rural area. :-D

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                      • K Kent Sharkey

                        Phys.org[^]:

                        After decades of fruitless scanning the skies for alien messages, scientists say it's time to try a basic rule of etiquette: Say "hello" first.

                        "Sup, sup, suppertime!"

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        Words, words, words. When have words ever made friendship grow quickly? Send bacon.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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