Views on SARS?
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SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers, so I thought I'd find out how you feel about it. The reporters seem to be saying, with a surprised look on their faces, that it's probably more contagious than HIV. This seems perfectly reasonable to me - to contract HIV you either have to swap blood, or some other bodily fluid. On the other hand, SARS seems to be contracted the same way as the common cold. Which leads me to my next point. If SARS is a mutation of the common cold, for which we have yet to develop a cure, why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? Now don't get me wrong, I am not advocating panic. Mainly because it seems that protection against the common cold (eat fruit and veg, keep your immune system healthy) should ensure you survive SARS should you catch it. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the guy I work with who's going to a quack to be checked out next week, even though he has nothing wrong, is the wise one :rolleyes: Anyway, any thoughts? :)
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
Megan Forbes wrote: why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? i haven't heard this. the only way they can hope to innoculate against or cure SARS is if it is a single virus (or small set of viruses) that mutates slowly. the reason we can't innoculate against or cure the cold is primarily because it's caused by a group of over 100 viruses which all mutate quickly. any cure would only work on subset of the viruses that existed when the cure was developed, but the next month there'd be a new batch of viruses to deal with - a we simply couldn't keep up with the changes. since SARS has been identified as a coronavirus, one of the types that cause the common cold, the only hope for cure/vaccination is if this particular variety is slow to mutate. -c
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SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers, so I thought I'd find out how you feel about it. The reporters seem to be saying, with a surprised look on their faces, that it's probably more contagious than HIV. This seems perfectly reasonable to me - to contract HIV you either have to swap blood, or some other bodily fluid. On the other hand, SARS seems to be contracted the same way as the common cold. Which leads me to my next point. If SARS is a mutation of the common cold, for which we have yet to develop a cure, why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? Now don't get me wrong, I am not advocating panic. Mainly because it seems that protection against the common cold (eat fruit and veg, keep your immune system healthy) should ensure you survive SARS should you catch it. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the guy I work with who's going to a quack to be checked out next week, even though he has nothing wrong, is the wise one :rolleyes: Anyway, any thoughts? :)
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
no biggie here in Montreal, but it creates havoc in Toronto. I don't know how effective are the cheap masks people are wearing, maybe it conforts people more than protect them. Maybe it will show that China (and other asian countries Japan excluded) are not really up to par on the medical level (prevention and and higien (spelling please?)) Max.
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SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers, so I thought I'd find out how you feel about it. The reporters seem to be saying, with a surprised look on their faces, that it's probably more contagious than HIV. This seems perfectly reasonable to me - to contract HIV you either have to swap blood, or some other bodily fluid. On the other hand, SARS seems to be contracted the same way as the common cold. Which leads me to my next point. If SARS is a mutation of the common cold, for which we have yet to develop a cure, why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? Now don't get me wrong, I am not advocating panic. Mainly because it seems that protection against the common cold (eat fruit and veg, keep your immune system healthy) should ensure you survive SARS should you catch it. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the guy I work with who's going to a quack to be checked out next week, even though he has nothing wrong, is the wise one :rolleyes: Anyway, any thoughts? :)
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
I haven't had any dealings with SARS[^], I'd think I could ask you about them. ;P I'll point to Chris' post regarding a cure. I found some interesting numbers on infected people, etc. http://www.who.int/csr/sarscountry/2003_04_23/en/[^] BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers, so I thought I'd find out how you feel about it. The reporters seem to be saying, with a surprised look on their faces, that it's probably more contagious than HIV. This seems perfectly reasonable to me - to contract HIV you either have to swap blood, or some other bodily fluid. On the other hand, SARS seems to be contracted the same way as the common cold. Which leads me to my next point. If SARS is a mutation of the common cold, for which we have yet to develop a cure, why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? Now don't get me wrong, I am not advocating panic. Mainly because it seems that protection against the common cold (eat fruit and veg, keep your immune system healthy) should ensure you survive SARS should you catch it. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the guy I work with who's going to a quack to be checked out next week, even though he has nothing wrong, is the wise one :rolleyes: Anyway, any thoughts? :)
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
I propose that we have a world-wide stay indoors for two weeks minimum and don't have contact with anyone event. Surely that would eliminate the SARS virus, the common cold and many others. The only problem I can see with this approach is organisation but hey, I never said I had all the answers! ;) Seriously, I believe this virus could potentially kill many people all over the World and I just hope the precautions we all take will prove to be effective. "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can." "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."
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SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers, so I thought I'd find out how you feel about it. The reporters seem to be saying, with a surprised look on their faces, that it's probably more contagious than HIV. This seems perfectly reasonable to me - to contract HIV you either have to swap blood, or some other bodily fluid. On the other hand, SARS seems to be contracted the same way as the common cold. Which leads me to my next point. If SARS is a mutation of the common cold, for which we have yet to develop a cure, why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? Now don't get me wrong, I am not advocating panic. Mainly because it seems that protection against the common cold (eat fruit and veg, keep your immune system healthy) should ensure you survive SARS should you catch it. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the guy I work with who's going to a quack to be checked out next week, even though he has nothing wrong, is the wise one :rolleyes: Anyway, any thoughts? :)
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
Megan Forbes wrote: Anyway, any thoughts? Year: 1918 Virus: Spanish Influenza Death Toll: >20 million Cure: None to date Herd immunity keeps us safe from a lot of nasty bugs - without that, prevention is our best hope. Flu pandemics[^]
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Megan Forbes wrote: Anyway, any thoughts? Year: 1918 Virus: Spanish Influenza Death Toll: >20 million Cure: None to date Herd immunity keeps us safe from a lot of nasty bugs - without that, prevention is our best hope. Flu pandemics[^]
- Shog9 -
I'd show a smile but I'm too weak I'd share with you, could I only speak
From the article: Between September 1918 and April 1919, approximately 500,000 deaths from the flu occurred in the U.S. alone. Many people died from this very quickly. Some people who felt well in the morning became sick by noon, and were dead by nightfall. :omg:
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SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers, so I thought I'd find out how you feel about it. The reporters seem to be saying, with a surprised look on their faces, that it's probably more contagious than HIV. This seems perfectly reasonable to me - to contract HIV you either have to swap blood, or some other bodily fluid. On the other hand, SARS seems to be contracted the same way as the common cold. Which leads me to my next point. If SARS is a mutation of the common cold, for which we have yet to develop a cure, why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? Now don't get me wrong, I am not advocating panic. Mainly because it seems that protection against the common cold (eat fruit and veg, keep your immune system healthy) should ensure you survive SARS should you catch it. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the guy I work with who's going to a quack to be checked out next week, even though he has nothing wrong, is the wise one :rolleyes: Anyway, any thoughts? :)
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
Megan Forbes wrote: Anyway, any thoughts? Totally fear based and blown out of proportion. It amazes me how quickly people (myself included) let fear overcome us. Here's an interesting acronym a shrink told me once: F - False E - Evidence A - Appearing R - Real I think fear is on the rise because feeling secure is on the decline. One thing that surprises me though is I haven't read anything about SARS and children. These type of illnesses spread like wildfire in daycares. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Megan Forbes wrote: Anyway, any thoughts? Totally fear based and blown out of proportion. It amazes me how quickly people (myself included) let fear overcome us. Here's an interesting acronym a shrink told me once: F - False E - Evidence A - Appearing R - Real I think fear is on the rise because feeling secure is on the decline. One thing that surprises me though is I haven't read anything about SARS and children. These type of illnesses spread like wildfire in daycares. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Marc Clifton wrote: One thing that surprises me though is I haven't read anything about SARS and children. i recall hearing that China (Toronto too?) closed all schools in a couple of it's provinces this week, for 3 weeks (2x the SARS incubation time, IIRC). -c
Chris Losinger
Smaller Animals Software -
SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers, so I thought I'd find out how you feel about it. The reporters seem to be saying, with a surprised look on their faces, that it's probably more contagious than HIV. This seems perfectly reasonable to me - to contract HIV you either have to swap blood, or some other bodily fluid. On the other hand, SARS seems to be contracted the same way as the common cold. Which leads me to my next point. If SARS is a mutation of the common cold, for which we have yet to develop a cure, why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? Now don't get me wrong, I am not advocating panic. Mainly because it seems that protection against the common cold (eat fruit and veg, keep your immune system healthy) should ensure you survive SARS should you catch it. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the guy I work with who's going to a quack to be checked out next week, even though he has nothing wrong, is the wise one :rolleyes: Anyway, any thoughts? :)
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
Megan Forbes wrote: SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers Looking at the way the number of infected people keep increasing I kinda get the feeling, this problem is gonna go on for a while causing unprecedented damage to lives and economies. The airline industry would be suffering again, many people on my side of the west coast I know prefer to travel via the atlantic even though the fares are much higher, which makes a cascading effect on airlines flying via the pacific. My wife had to cancel her Cathay Pacific flight via HongKong to India and had to rebook her flight via an alternate atlantic route. The kombucha mushroom people, Sitting around all day, Who can believe you, Who can believe you, Let your mother pray... sugar - System of a down
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From the article: Between September 1918 and April 1919, approximately 500,000 deaths from the flu occurred in the U.S. alone. Many people died from this very quickly. Some people who felt well in the morning became sick by noon, and were dead by nightfall. :omg:
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SARS seems to be filling the void left by Iraq for the newsmongers, so I thought I'd find out how you feel about it. The reporters seem to be saying, with a surprised look on their faces, that it's probably more contagious than HIV. This seems perfectly reasonable to me - to contract HIV you either have to swap blood, or some other bodily fluid. On the other hand, SARS seems to be contracted the same way as the common cold. Which leads me to my next point. If SARS is a mutation of the common cold, for which we have yet to develop a cure, why are people expecting a cure for SARS in the next couple of months? Now don't get me wrong, I am not advocating panic. Mainly because it seems that protection against the common cold (eat fruit and veg, keep your immune system healthy) should ensure you survive SARS should you catch it. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the guy I work with who's going to a quack to be checked out next week, even though he has nothing wrong, is the wise one :rolleyes: Anyway, any thoughts? :)
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
The SARS virus is new to humans, seems to have jumped species which is the big problem. Its going to [edit] take time to [/edit] come up with antiviral agents to cope with it. Elaine :(( The tigress is here :-D
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Megan Forbes wrote: Anyway, any thoughts? Totally fear based and blown out of proportion. It amazes me how quickly people (myself included) let fear overcome us. Here's an interesting acronym a shrink told me once: F - False E - Evidence A - Appearing R - Real I think fear is on the rise because feeling secure is on the decline. One thing that surprises me though is I haven't read anything about SARS and children. These type of illnesses spread like wildfire in daycares. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Marc Clifton wrote: Totally fear based and blown out of proportion Yeah, but when dealing with a potentially fatal desease it is probably better to blow it out of proportion than have everyone being overly complacent about it. You're supposed to have sense enough to be afraid of something that can kill you. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.
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The SARS virus is new to humans, seems to have jumped species which is the big problem. Its going to [edit] take time to [/edit] come up with antiviral agents to cope with it. Elaine :(( The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: seems to have jumped species Interesting, I hadn't read about that. What species do they think it comes from?
It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. - Roger Wright
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Marc Clifton wrote: Totally fear based and blown out of proportion Yeah, but when dealing with a potentially fatal desease it is probably better to blow it out of proportion than have everyone being overly complacent about it. You're supposed to have sense enough to be afraid of something that can kill you. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.
Stan Shannon wrote: You're supposed to have sense enough to be afraid of something that can kill you. You mean like smoking, drinking, driving a car, flying, your next door neighbour, your local cop, asbestos, radon, cell phones, mercury thermometers, drugs, prescription drugs, natural herbs, Ma Huang, driving while drinking, driving while talking on the cell phone, fat, cholesterol, lack of excerise... You mean, life? It seems a little ironic that >30,000 people die a year from the flu in this country. More than a million die every year from smoking related illnesses. http://www.disastercenter.com/cdc/1motorac.html[^] Seems like most people are rather arbitrary in choosing what they fear. But I suppose that's the nature of fear, isn't it? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files" -
The SARS virus is new to humans, seems to have jumped species which is the big problem. Its going to [edit] take time to [/edit] come up with antiviral agents to cope with it. Elaine :(( The tigress is here :-D
I read somewhere (a long time ago) that most new flu epidemics come from a very specific region of China where it is customary to live very, VERY closely with livestock and that nearly all new strains of flu have animal origins. :omg: <Edit>Oh look, I found a source[^] </Edit> Mike Mullikin :beer:
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Megan Forbes wrote: Anyway, any thoughts? Totally fear based and blown out of proportion. It amazes me how quickly people (myself included) let fear overcome us. Here's an interesting acronym a shrink told me once: F - False E - Evidence A - Appearing R - Real I think fear is on the rise because feeling secure is on the decline. One thing that surprises me though is I haven't read anything about SARS and children. These type of illnesses spread like wildfire in daycares. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Marc Clifton wrote: One thing that surprises me though is I haven't read anything about SARS and children. I heard SARS does NOT seem to affect young children (not to the same degree as they affect grown ups), but they closed the schools in Hongkong just in case. The fatality rate of infected people is roughly 5%.
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I read somewhere (a long time ago) that most new flu epidemics come from a very specific region of China where it is customary to live very, VERY closely with livestock and that nearly all new strains of flu have animal origins. :omg: <Edit>Oh look, I found a source[^] </Edit> Mike Mullikin :beer:
Capitalism - Coming to a Country Near You!!
Mike Mullikin wrote: most new flu epidemics come from a very specific region of China where it is customary to live very, VERY closely with livestock But those animals came originally from USA where they live very, VERY closely with humans ;P
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Mike Mullikin wrote: most new flu epidemics come from a very specific region of China where it is customary to live very, VERY closely with livestock But those animals came originally from USA where they live very, VERY closely with humans ;P
Anonymous101 wrote: Mike Mullikin wrote: most new flu epidemics come from a very specific region of China where it is customary to live very, VERY closely with livestock But those animals came originally from USA where they live very, VERY closely with humans And the humans in USA came originally from Europe ... :laugh:
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Anonymous101 wrote: Mike Mullikin wrote: most new flu epidemics come from a very specific region of China where it is customary to live very, VERY closely with livestock But those animals came originally from USA where they live very, VERY closely with humans And the humans in USA came originally from Europe ... :laugh:
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Anonymous101 wrote: Mike Mullikin wrote: most new flu epidemics come from a very specific region of China where it is customary to live very, VERY closely with livestock But those animals came originally from USA where they live very, VERY closely with humans And the humans in USA came originally from Europe ... :laugh:
Anonymous102 wrote: And the humans in USA came originally from Europe except for those that came from Asia, Africa or South America, of course. -c
Chris Losinger
Smaller Animals Software