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More than half of US workers didn’t use up their time off last year, sacrificing 662 million vacation days

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  • K Kent Sharkey

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    Americans, famously, take far less vacation time than their European counterparts: less than 17 days, on average, compared to 30 days in France, for example. But for many Americans, that’s apparently all the time they need.

    "Takin' care of business and workin' overtime"

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    In my former job I wasn't allowed to take more than 2 days off in a week and they couldn't be consecutive because "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone." 30 days off per year sounds amazing :^)

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      In my former job I wasn't allowed to take more than 2 days off in a week and they couldn't be consecutive because "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone." 30 days off per year sounds amazing :^)

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      Nelek
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      Jon McKee wrote:

      "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone."

      A good compliment, but no one is irreplaceable

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        Quartz[^]:

        Americans, famously, take far less vacation time than their European counterparts: less than 17 days, on average, compared to 30 days in France, for example. But for many Americans, that’s apparently all the time they need.

        "Takin' care of business and workin' overtime"

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        Kent Sharkey wrote:

        But for many Americans, that’s apparently all the time they need can / are allowed to take.

        FTFY I don't think they just refuse to take their off time on purpose / voluntarily.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • J Jon McKee

          In my former job I wasn't allowed to take more than 2 days off in a week and they couldn't be consecutive because "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone." 30 days off per year sounds amazing :^)

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          Jon McKee wrote:

          In my former job I wasn't allowed to take more than 2 days off in a week and they couldn't be consecutive because "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone." 30 days off per year sounds amazing :^)

          I'd ask how much trouble they'd have not having me around 365 days a year, submit my normal week+ summer vacation block; and begin the job search immediately unless I got an appropriate response from my boss. (Where appropriate means approving my request and then the person who tried to promulgate the no consecutive days off policy committing seppuku with a rusty letter opener in the office lobby.)                                                                                          X| X| X| X| X|                         X| X| X| X| X| X|                             X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X|               X| X|                             X| X|               X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X|           X|                                                X|      X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X|      X|                  &

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            Kent Sharkey wrote:

            But for many Americans, that’s apparently all the time they need can / are allowed to take.

            FTFY I don't think they just refuse to take their off time on purpose / voluntarily.

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            No one who forces them to. But then again, if a people is that competitive, then I can play you against your neighbour. If you won't, he will. So, this is just a consequence of that choice :)

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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              No one who forces them to. But then again, if a people is that competitive, then I can play you against your neighbour. If you won't, he will. So, this is just a consequence of that choice :)

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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              well... if really voluntarily... then their choice. the day my baby was born I learned that "live to work" is not that worth, so now I try to "work to live" instead (which doesn't mean I am not competitive).

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                well... if really voluntarily... then their choice. the day my baby was born I learned that "live to work" is not that worth, so now I try to "work to live" instead (which doesn't mean I am not competitive).

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                Lost User
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                A slave is alive just to work. The rest of us only work to survive. But yes, it is that sentiment that makes it possible; after all, if you're not available on the phone each night (for free ofc) then you do not love your company :D

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                • N Nelek

                  Jon McKee wrote:

                  "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone."

                  A good compliment, but no one is irreplaceable

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  Sort of how I viewed it. Highly doubtful it was actually true; more of a "I don't want to do your work."

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                  • J Jon McKee

                    In my former job I wasn't allowed to take more than 2 days off in a week and they couldn't be consecutive because "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone." 30 days off per year sounds amazing :^)

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                    Jon McKee wrote:

                    In my former job I wasn't allowed to take more than 2 days off in a week and they couldn't be consecutive because "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone..."

                    One of my previous bosses had an interesting approach. When he joined a group as manager, he determined who in the group was "unreplaceable" and got rid of them. Somehow he ran some of the most successful projects I've ever seen.

                    I'm retired. There's a nap for that... - Harvey

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                      Jon McKee wrote:

                      In my former job I wasn't allowed to take more than 2 days off in a week and they couldn't be consecutive because "the team can't handle the additional workload when you're gone..."

                      One of my previous bosses had an interesting approach. When he joined a group as manager, he determined who in the group was "unreplaceable" and got rid of them. Somehow he ran some of the most successful projects I've ever seen.

                      I'm retired. There's a nap for that... - Harvey

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                      That's an interesting approach. I guess it provokes the rest of the team to start doing their part since their crutch is now gone? :doh:

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