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Windows XP: Not dead yet!

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Some businesses have legitimate reasons to keep using Microsoft's obsolete operating system. But for most, the reasons that companies hold on to Windows XP boil down to not wanting to spend the money to upgrade. That's not a good long-term plan.

    Maybe it is time for that Norwegian cruise though

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      enterprise.nxt[^]:

      Some businesses have legitimate reasons to keep using Microsoft's obsolete operating system. But for most, the reasons that companies hold on to Windows XP boil down to not wanting to spend the money to upgrade. That's not a good long-term plan.

      Maybe it is time for that Norwegian cruise though

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      Kent Sharkey wrote:

      Some businesses have legitimate reasons to keep using Microsoft's obsolete operating system.

      As in [the US Military?](https://www.cyberscoop.com/windows-xp-us-government-duo-security-october-2016/) And that article is only 10 months old. Not much will have changed in 10 months! Marc

      Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        Kent Sharkey wrote:

        Some businesses have legitimate reasons to keep using Microsoft's obsolete operating system.

        As in [the US Military?](https://www.cyberscoop.com/windows-xp-us-government-duo-security-october-2016/) And that article is only 10 months old. Not much will have changed in 10 months! Marc

        Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        Dan Neely
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        I'm aware of a DoD system expected to be in use for another year or three until the platform its on finally is retired using NT4 embedded. (Thankfully it has no external network access at least.)

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Kent Sharkey wrote:

          Some businesses have legitimate reasons to keep using Microsoft's obsolete operating system.

          As in [the US Military?](https://www.cyberscoop.com/windows-xp-us-government-duo-security-october-2016/) And that article is only 10 months old. Not much will have changed in 10 months! Marc

          Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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          Roland M Smith
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          Britain recently launched a new aircraft carrier and it has Windows XP. HMS Queen Elizabeth could be vulnerable to cyber-attack | Technology | The Guardian[^]

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            enterprise.nxt[^]:

            Some businesses have legitimate reasons to keep using Microsoft's obsolete operating system. But for most, the reasons that companies hold on to Windows XP boil down to not wanting to spend the money to upgrade. That's not a good long-term plan.

            Maybe it is time for that Norwegian cruise though

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            John M Drescher
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            In the medical industry we have medical workstations that run XP and are not permitted to be upgraded at all (not even service packs).

            John

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              I'm aware of a DoD system expected to be in use for another year or three until the platform its on finally is retired using NT4 embedded. (Thankfully it has no external network access at least.)

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              Nathan Minier
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              Most likely a Managed Application that is contracted out; we have to lease the new version to meet DODI 8500 requirements! We can thank these bundled COTS solutions of that, and the truly messed up bidding process for putting us in this predicament to begin with.

              "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                Most likely a Managed Application that is contracted out; we have to lease the new version to meet DODI 8500 requirements! We can thank these bundled COTS solutions of that, and the truly messed up bidding process for putting us in this predicament to begin with.

                "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                Dan Neely
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                Nope for all the but part of the first, being made by a 3rd party. Embedded system. Custom software controlling custom hardware. Not networked. No updates to the software at all after delivery/acceptance testing; the company who made the hardware only wants to sell boxes not support :wtf: and priced any software changes accordingly. It got yearly data updates until last fall from my previous employer (not the box maker); but our contract was ended as part of the platforms gradual replacement and winddown.

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  Nope for all the but part of the first, being made by a 3rd party. Embedded system. Custom software controlling custom hardware. Not networked. No updates to the software at all after delivery/acceptance testing; the company who made the hardware only wants to sell boxes not support :wtf: and priced any software changes accordingly. It got yearly data updates until last fall from my previous employer (not the box maker); but our contract was ended as part of the platforms gradual replacement and winddown.

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  Nathan Minier
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                  Yeah, in the DoD compliance lexicon that's a Managed Application (systems that may be approved even if their individual components are not). GenDyn does that to us all the time. At least when the gear is on lease they'll generally jump to and keep it updated.

                  "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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