Apple Owns the Enterprise (via consumers)?
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Apple in the enterprise? It’s already there | Computerworld[^] This is a really interesting quote from the article...
article said:
"Consumer technologies are becoming the leading platforms in the enterprise market, bringing additional capabilities to enterprise apps and Apple is riding that wave to get adoption in the enterprise," said Van Baker a research vice president at Gartner. "Every enterprise worker is also a consumer."
Think about that. Enterprise decisions are being more driven by average consumers now instead of technology consumers. A better way to say this might be... In the past fewer people used computers (and knew how to configure them) because they were not consumer-type products. The average person understood that s/he did not understand computers so they left them to the "technology wizards" to set up. Now, every person _feels_ as if computers are easy to use and so setting up servers and the rest is probably simple too, since I can configure my iPhone. So, now, some business-user comes along and says, "since we all know how to use iPhones, let's just use Apple Servers too. Make this happen, IT Team, because Apple is best. I know because I am a consumer who uses an iPhone." :rolleyes: Or another way to say it is, Apple always attempted to make computers into Consumer-Products while other companies tried to continue to make them very techy. Computer-centric people didn't mind the techy and made the decisions, but now as Apple has made computers more consumer-friendly they are now taking over more IT type of roles -- or want to and may in the future. Interesting. More of a long-view plan. This all bound to sound very controversial on a web site (CP) devoted to the tech side. :)
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raddevus wrote:
Enterprise decisions are being more driven by average consumers now instead of technology consumers.
A fanciful interpretation of the morass of hype and pseudo-factoids that make up this puff-piece of an article. The one voice of sanity in the article, Gold's, sums it up nicely:
Quote:
"Is it significant? It's significant if you're an Accenture client, but it's not clear exactly what it's all going to mean longer term," Gold said.
«While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)
BillWoodruff wrote:
morass of hype and pseudo-factoids that make up this puff-piece of an article
I agree with you. It was possibly written by an Apple team member. :laugh: But that's what it's all about "the perception of owning the Server Landscape". Everyone wants their company hosted on Apple Servers because as their marketing info tells you plainly...
Apple site says:
The server for everyone. macOS Server is perfect for a small studio, business, or school. And it’s so easy to use, you don’t need your own IT department.
:laugh: see... macOS Server - Overview - Apple[^]
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More likely, if they do anything they'll yank the current SE from the market and replace it with a model that's identical to the old one except for not having a headphone jack. :doh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Could they really be this evil? If so I'm just gonna get the SE and baby it forever. Not gonna let them steal away my headphone jack from me!
Wout
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Could they really be this evil? If so I'm just gonna get the SE and baby it forever. Not gonna let them steal away my headphone jack from me!
Wout
You're talking about a company that stripped all USB-A ports from some of its newest products at a time when most of their accessories were only available in USB-A versions. :laugh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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You're talking about a company that stripped all USB-A ports from some of its newest products at a time when most of their accessories were only available in USB-A versions. :laugh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
And still I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, bless my innocent soul. :laugh:
Wout
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They lost me when they removed the headphone jack :laugh:
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
[The TRUTH behind the iPhone 7 Headphone Jack Removal! - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmTSN4zWeQ0)
It Is The Absolute Verifiable Truth & Proven Fact
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To Viviparous Mama.
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Apple in the enterprise? It’s already there | Computerworld[^] This is a really interesting quote from the article...
article said:
"Consumer technologies are becoming the leading platforms in the enterprise market, bringing additional capabilities to enterprise apps and Apple is riding that wave to get adoption in the enterprise," said Van Baker a research vice president at Gartner. "Every enterprise worker is also a consumer."
Think about that. Enterprise decisions are being more driven by average consumers now instead of technology consumers. A better way to say this might be... In the past fewer people used computers (and knew how to configure them) because they were not consumer-type products. The average person understood that s/he did not understand computers so they left them to the "technology wizards" to set up. Now, every person _feels_ as if computers are easy to use and so setting up servers and the rest is probably simple too, since I can configure my iPhone. So, now, some business-user comes along and says, "since we all know how to use iPhones, let's just use Apple Servers too. Make this happen, IT Team, because Apple is best. I know because I am a consumer who uses an iPhone." :rolleyes: Or another way to say it is, Apple always attempted to make computers into Consumer-Products while other companies tried to continue to make them very techy. Computer-centric people didn't mind the techy and made the decisions, but now as Apple has made computers more consumer-friendly they are now taking over more IT type of roles -- or want to and may in the future. Interesting. More of a long-view plan. This all bound to sound very controversial on a web site (CP) devoted to the tech side. :)
raddevus wrote:
Now, every person _feels_ as if computers are easy to use and so setting up servers and the rest is probably simple too, since I can configure my iPhone. So, now, some business-user comes along and says, "since we all know how to use iPhones, let's just use Apple Servers too. Make this happen, IT Team, because Apple is best. I know because I am a consumer who uses an iPhone." :rolleyes:
And yet...we can't seem to get it through our users heads that they are not allowed to move their computer from this side of the room to that side of the room and plug it into a different RJ-45 jack. They whine and cry and yell when we tell them it will be a few hours at a minimum before someone from networking will be able to reset port security because they are out working on issues that were NOT self-inflicted.
We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, VidMe and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.
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[The TRUTH behind the iPhone 7 Headphone Jack Removal! - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmTSN4zWeQ0)
It Is The Absolute Verifiable Truth & Proven Fact
That Your Belly-Button Signature Ties
To Viviparous Mama.
Leading to.. [Apple iPhone sales by year 2007-2016 | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/276306/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-fiscal-year-2007/) 2016 was the first year to see a drop in iPhone sales. It looks like 2017 will see a lower figure than 2016 (although that could change if they announce an Earth-shattering device today.. unlikely though, Tim Cook isn't an innovator). At the end of the day, if you don't give your customers what they want, they go elsewhere. :doh:
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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And still I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, bless my innocent soul. :laugh:
Wout
Just be careful that then "new SE" doesn't turn out to be the old 6 - the battery is really poor, mainly due to being effected by cold conditions (by cold, I mean any temperature less than about 18 degrees C). I'd leave home with 100% battery, within 30 minutes it'd be down to about 70%. In temperatures around 12 degrees C, it'd drop to 1% within an hour. If I tried to use it, it'd just switch off (or I'd pull it out of my pocket and find it dead). A few minutes under a hot air hand dryer (if I could find one) would bring it back to life with 50% or more battery left. The iPhone 6 is one of the worst phones I've owned for reliability. My previous iPhone 4 and 5 were very good though. I switched over to the Galaxy S8 in July because of a skiing/snowboarding trip with friends in January where they were using their Galaxy S7's and S6's out in -15 C all day with no problems and my iPhone 6 was dead within 5 minutes.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Good points and by "use Apple servers" I meant... macOS Server - Overview - Apple[^] EDIT and look their marketing info drives the point home further...
Apple site says:
The server for everyone. macOS Server is perfect for a small studio, business, or school. And it’s so easy to use, you don’t need your own IT department.
raddevus wrote:
you don’t need your own IT department
Well you don't need your own IT team for Windows Servers.. you can just let Chinese hackers manage them for you :laugh:
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Just be careful that then "new SE" doesn't turn out to be the old 6 - the battery is really poor, mainly due to being effected by cold conditions (by cold, I mean any temperature less than about 18 degrees C). I'd leave home with 100% battery, within 30 minutes it'd be down to about 70%. In temperatures around 12 degrees C, it'd drop to 1% within an hour. If I tried to use it, it'd just switch off (or I'd pull it out of my pocket and find it dead). A few minutes under a hot air hand dryer (if I could find one) would bring it back to life with 50% or more battery left. The iPhone 6 is one of the worst phones I've owned for reliability. My previous iPhone 4 and 5 were very good though. I switched over to the Galaxy S8 in July because of a skiing/snowboarding trip with friends in January where they were using their Galaxy S7's and S6's out in -15 C all day with no problems and my iPhone 6 was dead within 5 minutes.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Oh wow, hadn't heard about that. My sister has one too. Luckily I'm old and I don't do crazy shit like snow boarding, so maybe I'll be in luck! Thanks for the heads up though.
Wout
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BillWoodruff wrote:
morass of hype and pseudo-factoids that make up this puff-piece of an article
I agree with you. It was possibly written by an Apple team member. :laugh: But that's what it's all about "the perception of owning the Server Landscape". Everyone wants their company hosted on Apple Servers because as their marketing info tells you plainly...
Apple site says:
The server for everyone. macOS Server is perfect for a small studio, business, or school. And it’s so easy to use, you don’t need your own IT department.
:laugh: see... macOS Server - Overview - Apple[^]
raddevus wrote:
the perception of owning
Just because your neighbors are on drugs, doesn't mean you're high, or that they are not stupid :) cheers, Bill
«While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)