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Physicists find we’re not living in a computer simulation

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  • K Kent Sharkey

    Cosmos[^]:

    The sci-fi trope might now be put to rest after scientists find the suggestion that reality is computer generated is in principle impossible, writes Andrew Masterson.

    So, life's not but a walking shadow?

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    Daniel Pfeffer
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    So the Universe is the smallest "computer" that can simulate a Universe?

    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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    • K Kent Sharkey

      Cosmos[^]:

      The sci-fi trope might now be put to rest after scientists find the suggestion that reality is computer generated is in principle impossible, writes Andrew Masterson.

      So, life's not but a walking shadow?

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      Nelek
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      Really? Then this green symbols I see from time to time are not the matrix? Maybe I should not stare at the sun so long ;P ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      • D Dewey

        Odd that they only consider our technology capability. It's rather ignorant to assume humans would simulate human life. If this were a simulation, it's likely done by creatures studying something with better technology.

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        Nathan Minier
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        Never seen [The Sims](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Sims), eh?

        "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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        • K Kent Sharkey

          Cosmos[^]:

          The sci-fi trope might now be put to rest after scientists find the suggestion that reality is computer generated is in principle impossible, writes Andrew Masterson.

          So, life's not but a walking shadow?

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          Dan Neely
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          Are they sure about that? somehow I get the feeling that whoever is running the simulation might be on to us...

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          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          • D Dewey

            Odd that they only consider our technology capability. It's rather ignorant to assume humans would simulate human life. If this were a simulation, it's likely done by creatures studying something with better technology.

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            Rob Grainger
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            Actually, they're considering fundamental mathematical principles of computability as applied to particle physics and quantum states - nothing to do with our technology.

            "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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              Are they sure about that? somehow I get the feeling that whoever is running the simulation might be on to us...

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              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              jeron1
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              I believe you're right! :laugh:

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              • R Rob Grainger

                Actually, they're considering fundamental mathematical principles of computability as applied to particle physics and quantum states - nothing to do with our technology.

                "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                Richard Deeming
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                Rob Grainger wrote:

                they're considering fundamental mathematical principles of computability as applied to particle physics and quantum states

                In this universe. Who's to say whether the same rules apply outside of our simulation? :-D


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                  Rob Grainger wrote:

                  they're considering fundamental mathematical principles of computability as applied to particle physics and quantum states

                  In this universe. Who's to say whether the same rules apply outside of our simulation? :-D


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  Lost User
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                  My thoughts exactly, when I read the article. If we are in a simulation, how could we possibly know any rule or law outside of it?

                  When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.

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                  • K Kent Sharkey

                    Cosmos[^]:

                    The sci-fi trope might now be put to rest after scientists find the suggestion that reality is computer generated is in principle impossible, writes Andrew Masterson.

                    So, life's not but a walking shadow?

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    > Ringel and Kovrizhi showed that attempts to use quantum Monte Carlo to model systems exhibiting anomalies, such as the quantum Hall effect, will always become unworkable. All that proves is that the simulation has a bug. ;)

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                      My thoughts exactly, when I read the article. If we are in a simulation, how could we possibly know any rule or law outside of it?

                      When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.

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                      You would know once the host-machine crashes. The idea of living in a computer-simulation is simply lazy.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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