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the Nabobs of DefCon showing off again (voting machines)

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    Note: to me this is news, interesting news; my intent in posting this is to share news, not to start a "political" discussion (you know what that leads to) [^]

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    American voting machines are full of foreign-made hardware and software, including from China, and a top group of hackers and national security officials says that means they could have been infiltrated last year and into the future. DEFCON, the world’s largest hacker conference, will release its findings on Tuesday, months after hosting a July demonstration in which hackers quickly broke into 25 different types of voting machines.

    «While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)

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      Note: to me this is news, interesting news; my intent in posting this is to share news, not to start a "political" discussion (you know what that leads to) [^]

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      American voting machines are full of foreign-made hardware and software, including from China, and a top group of hackers and national security officials says that means they could have been infiltrated last year and into the future. DEFCON, the world’s largest hacker conference, will release its findings on Tuesday, months after hosting a July demonstration in which hackers quickly broke into 25 different types of voting machines.

      «While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)

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      > are full of foreign-made hardware and software And I would trust "American made" any better???

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        > are full of foreign-made hardware and software And I would trust "American made" any better???

        Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        At least the manual for the hacking software would be written in American English. :)

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          Note: to me this is news, interesting news; my intent in posting this is to share news, not to start a "political" discussion (you know what that leads to) [^]

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          American voting machines are full of foreign-made hardware and software, including from China, and a top group of hackers and national security officials says that means they could have been infiltrated last year and into the future. DEFCON, the world’s largest hacker conference, will release its findings on Tuesday, months after hosting a July demonstration in which hackers quickly broke into 25 different types of voting machines.

          «While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)

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          Since this post is trying to lead somewhere -- to the unknown and probably disprovable situation of whether or not voting machines could be and/or have been hacked -- we have to ask the inevitable question... What about previous elections? That is why no one has opened this can of worms. No matter how much you want to say this is a technical story, it is far more a social, political story. It's almost at the level of debating whether or not aliens exist. You can never disprove that aliens or fairies or invisible flying dragons exist. You can never disprove that the voting machines were hacked. You can only make confused people think that they possibly were and since possible then probably were. And I hope you've read this with an open mind, because it is not a political statement either. For real, not trying to be at odds with you. :thumbsup:

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            Since this post is trying to lead somewhere -- to the unknown and probably disprovable situation of whether or not voting machines could be and/or have been hacked -- we have to ask the inevitable question... What about previous elections? That is why no one has opened this can of worms. No matter how much you want to say this is a technical story, it is far more a social, political story. It's almost at the level of debating whether or not aliens exist. You can never disprove that aliens or fairies or invisible flying dragons exist. You can never disprove that the voting machines were hacked. You can only make confused people think that they possibly were and since possible then probably were. And I hope you've read this with an open mind, because it is not a political statement either. For real, not trying to be at odds with you. :thumbsup:

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            raddevus wrote:

            Since this post is trying to lead somewhere

            I cannot influence whether you perceive this post as "leading," or not. All I can say is that my intent was to share information, and I trust you, as an intelligent adult person, will form your own opinions. cheers, Bill

            «While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)

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