When Did That Happen?
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Now, add this to the mix.[
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-rubio-daylight-saving-time-20180314-story.html
](http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-rubio-daylight-saving-time-20180314-story.html)[^] I shudder to think of the havoc this will play with critical systems throughout the sunshine state. :wtf: Hopefully, if they do pass it, they will wait at least a year to implement. (will we need a new rule for dst (or in this case non-dst) adjusted display? (state != 'FL') :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
I think he's been trying to make that happen for about as long as he's been in Congress. IMO, it needs to go the other way, and Daylight Saving Time needs to join the ranks of extinct species, along with the dodo bird. From my perspective, the only thing that Daylight Saving Time does is add unnecessary complexity to time keeping.
David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
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[Throwback Thursday: Hey mister, got the time? | Computerworld](https://www.computerworld.com/article/3289546/data-center/throwback-thursday-hey-mister-got-the-time.html?idg\_eid=488e8594b970666eed89dd5039b65772&email\_SHA1\_lc=&cid=cw\_nlt\_computerworld\_daily\_shark\_2018-07-12&utm\_source=Sailthru&utm\_medium=email&utm\_campaign=Computerworld Daily Shark 2018-07-12&utm\_term=computerworld\_daily\_shark) reminded me vividly of when I first faced this issue, when it truly mattered, because I needed to resolve conflicting data base updates that were recorded on two machines that ran in different time zones. Fast forward a decade, and I faced another version of the problem, when the time was recorded when DST was in effect, and reported when it was not, and vice versa. Worse yet was when someone started on a course at 2:15 AM CDT, and finished at 1:45 AM CST. How long did he work on it? Soon afterwards, I converted every time stamp in the data base table to UTC, retaining the original local times for auditing, and changed the reports to use the UTC time stamps. Since then, I have always recorded UTC times in data base records.
David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
I think we should eliminate time zones altogether, and just go by UTC.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I think we should eliminate time zones altogether, and just go by UTC.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Forogar wrote:
UTC - There can be only one!
Indeed; moreover, it's unambiguous.
Forogar wrote:
I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
So would I. Even if you got it, it's written in the undocumented assembler for an undocumented hyper-hyperthreaded processor that's also undocumented, and it's devoid of comments. Oh, yea, it's also massively multithreaded. :)
David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
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I think we should eliminate time zones altogether, and just go by UTC.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013UTC - There can be only one! I agree, people would quickly get used to whatever time they do things wherever they are. An 8 O'clock Breakfast in New York would be at 13:00 (We should also switch to universal 24=hour clocks) and so on - but people would get used to it very quickly and wonder why the old, stupid, system ever existed.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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[Throwback Thursday: Hey mister, got the time? | Computerworld](https://www.computerworld.com/article/3289546/data-center/throwback-thursday-hey-mister-got-the-time.html?idg\_eid=488e8594b970666eed89dd5039b65772&email\_SHA1\_lc=&cid=cw\_nlt\_computerworld\_daily\_shark\_2018-07-12&utm\_source=Sailthru&utm\_medium=email&utm\_campaign=Computerworld Daily Shark 2018-07-12&utm\_term=computerworld\_daily\_shark) reminded me vividly of when I first faced this issue, when it truly mattered, because I needed to resolve conflicting data base updates that were recorded on two machines that ran in different time zones. Fast forward a decade, and I faced another version of the problem, when the time was recorded when DST was in effect, and reported when it was not, and vice versa. Worse yet was when someone started on a course at 2:15 AM CDT, and finished at 1:45 AM CST. How long did he work on it? Soon afterwards, I converted every time stamp in the data base table to UTC, retaining the original local times for auditing, and changed the reports to use the UTC time stamps. Since then, I have always recorded UTC times in data base records.
David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
This just about sums it up: The Problem with Time & Timezones - Computerphile - YouTube[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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I think we should eliminate time zones altogether, and just go by UTC.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013That would be OK with me. Certain groups, e. g., airline pilots and air traffic controllers, already do so, for all practical purposes, as does the US military.
David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
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I think we should eliminate time zones altogether, and just go by UTC.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Forogar wrote:
UTC - There can be only one!
Indeed; moreover, it's unambiguous.
Forogar wrote:
I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
So would I. Even if you got it, it's written in the undocumented assembler for an undocumented hyper-hyperthreaded processor that's also undocumented, and it's devoid of comments. Oh, yea, it's also massively multithreaded. :)
David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
David A. Gray wrote:
Forogar wrote:
I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
So would I. Even if you got it, it's written in the undocumented assembler for an undocumented hyper-hyperthreaded processor that's also undocumented, and it's devoid of comments. Oh, yea, it's also massively multithreaded. :)
Ahem: Off to Be the Wizard by Scott Meyer[^]
"God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
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David A. Gray wrote:
Forogar wrote:
I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
So would I. Even if you got it, it's written in the undocumented assembler for an undocumented hyper-hyperthreaded processor that's also undocumented, and it's devoid of comments. Oh, yea, it's also massively multithreaded. :)
Ahem: Off to Be the Wizard by Scott Meyer[^]
"God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
That book looks interesting, and hinges on a concept that has been the subject of several of my thought experiments.
David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting