Non-deserter!
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'The president ended the conversation "by kissing me on the head,"' He's doomed - 6 months, max.
"Ask not for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee..."It does seem like a kiss of death now that you mention it.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: No, this isn't about Chris L, but it serves some points. A: it's stupid to bitch and whine, and B: it's easy for Chris L mistake this as meant for him - just like you mistake those posts to be meant for you. I didn't think they were meant for me or anyone in particular. Chris' posts were just starting to annoy me instead of amuse me, and they were beginning to make me feel like I'm an idiot for my beliefs. (Hence the "mockery" posts.) I don't think that's what Chris really wants, so I thought it best to tell him how I felt.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Jason Henderson wrote: I didn't think they were meant for me or anyone in particular. Ok, I thought that's what you were trying to say. Oh well, no biggie. At least I got to use the mad emoticon. :) Jason Henderson wrote: and they were beginning to make me feel like I'm an idiot for my beliefs. It's wise to doubt yourself every now and then, but it's also wise to validate those doubts instead of assume they are valid before accepting them. Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: No, this isn't about Chris L, but it serves some points. A: it's stupid to bitch and whine, and B: it's easy for Chris L mistake this as meant for him - just like you mistake those posts to be meant for you. I didn't think they were meant for me or anyone in particular. Chris' posts were just starting to annoy me instead of amuse me, and they were beginning to make me feel like I'm an idiot for my beliefs. (Hence the "mockery" posts.) I don't think that's what Chris really wants, so I thought it best to tell him how I felt.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Jason Henderson wrote: I don't think that's what Chris really wants But why would you care. In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive especially on anything American, or God forbid, Republician, and, certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. Mike
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Jason Henderson wrote: I didn't think they were meant for me or anyone in particular. Ok, I thought that's what you were trying to say. Oh well, no biggie. At least I got to use the mad emoticon. :) Jason Henderson wrote: and they were beginning to make me feel like I'm an idiot for my beliefs. It's wise to doubt yourself every now and then, but it's also wise to validate those doubts instead of assume they are valid before accepting them. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: It's wise to doubt yourself every now and then, but it's also wise to validate those doubts instead of assume they are valid before accepting them. Believe me, I go through periods of doubt, but not often. ;)
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/19/fleischer.resigns.ap/index.html[^] I can't believe the nerve of this guy! I mean, he wants to write. What a freaking looney!!! :mad: Oh, and to top it off, he just got married six months ago and probably wants to spend time with his wife. If that no good, two-bit scoundrel ever shows his face in public again I'll bite his ear off myself. Oh, and BTW, GWB is Satan! And anyone that doesn't see that is a moron. I mean, who cares if more people think he's doing all right. He's still Satan because he and I do not think alike. Now, I will continue to rant and bitch because it's what I do best. No, this isn't about Chris L, but it serves some points. A: it's stupid to bitch and whine, and B: it's easy for Chris L mistake this as meant for him - just like you mistake those posts to be meant for you. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: BTW, GWB is Satan! And anyone that doesn't see that is a moron. Exactly! ;P
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: BTW, GWB is Satan! And anyone that doesn't see that is a moron. Exactly! ;P
After all the time we've spent discussing the issue, Anonymous101, I'm glad we can agree on something. :rolleyes: Jeremy Falcon
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Jason Henderson wrote: I don't think that's what Chris really wants But why would you care. In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive especially on anything American, or God forbid, Republician, and, certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. Mike
Mike Gaskey wrote: But why would you care. In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive especially on anything American, or God forbid, Republician, and, certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. You may be right, but I'd like to think there is some mutual respect there. Maybe its a figment of my imagination. I don't agree with liberals, or democrats for that matter, very often but I try to at least "agree to disagree" at the end of a conversation. Hopefully, they are not belittled or demeaned afterward, because my intention is to educate, not humiliate.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Jason Henderson wrote: I don't think that's what Chris really wants But why would you care. In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive especially on anything American, or God forbid, Republician, and, certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. Mike
Mike Gaskey wrote: In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive and i haven't exactly seen you start a lot of threads proclaiming the glory of any US action/program/initiative. so, what's your point? are you mad because i think there are serious problems with the way the people in charge are handling things? or are you mad that i don't bitch about the things that the people who aren't in charge (and so can't really do anything about anything) are doing? Mike Gaskey wrote: certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. so you've got a selective memory. that's great. whenever i bring up things that a "conservative" should be upset about (like the PATRIOT act, the detention of US citizens without trial, etc. you know, all those nice Constitutional issues..) i get an earful of "well, the Demmmmmmocraaaaattssss have been doing it for yeeeeaaarrrs! how do you like it now????" god forbid i should have a fucking opinion. *edit* (trying to say something positive about something "conservative"....) i think it'd be a good idea to let the assault weapons ban expire. since you can buy a perfectly legal Ruger semi-auto with a 10-round clip for $500, there's no reason to ban a semi-auto AK-47; the difference between the two rifles is cosmetic. so, go conservatives! */edit* -c
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/19/fleischer.resigns.ap/index.html[^] I can't believe the nerve of this guy! I mean, he wants to write. What a freaking looney!!! :mad: Oh, and to top it off, he just got married six months ago and probably wants to spend time with his wife. If that no good, two-bit scoundrel ever shows his face in public again I'll bite his ear off myself. Oh, and BTW, GWB is Satan! And anyone that doesn't see that is a moron. I mean, who cares if more people think he's doing all right. He's still Satan because he and I do not think alike. Now, I will continue to rant and bitch because it's what I do best. No, this isn't about Chris L, but it serves some points. A: it's stupid to bitch and whine, and B: it's easy for Chris L mistake this as meant for him - just like you mistake those posts to be meant for you. Jeremy Falcon
Rewind to 1996. Oh, and BTW, GWB Clinton is Satan! And anyone that doesn't see that is a moron. I mean, who cares if more people think he's doing all right. He's still Satan because he and I do not think alike. Now, I will continue to rant and bitch because it's what I do best. This is not meant to be pro-Clinton. I was just struck by the similarities.
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Jason Henderson wrote: I don't think that's what Chris really wants But why would you care. In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive especially on anything American, or God forbid, Republician, and, certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. Mike
Everyone has their own different views on life. The catch is, are you willing to at least accept points from other views. It goes both ways - even for you, even for me, and even for Chris L, even for Jason, even for GWB, and even for Satan too! :) Jeremy Falcon
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Mike Gaskey wrote: In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive and i haven't exactly seen you start a lot of threads proclaiming the glory of any US action/program/initiative. so, what's your point? are you mad because i think there are serious problems with the way the people in charge are handling things? or are you mad that i don't bitch about the things that the people who aren't in charge (and so can't really do anything about anything) are doing? Mike Gaskey wrote: certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. so you've got a selective memory. that's great. whenever i bring up things that a "conservative" should be upset about (like the PATRIOT act, the detention of US citizens without trial, etc. you know, all those nice Constitutional issues..) i get an earful of "well, the Demmmmmmocraaaaattssss have been doing it for yeeeeaaarrrs! how do you like it now????" god forbid i should have a fucking opinion. *edit* (trying to say something positive about something "conservative"....) i think it'd be a good idea to let the assault weapons ban expire. since you can buy a perfectly legal Ruger semi-auto with a 10-round clip for $500, there's no reason to ban a semi-auto AK-47; the difference between the two rifles is cosmetic. so, go conservatives! */edit* -c
Chris Losinger
Smaller Animals SoftwareChris Losinger wrote: and i haven't exactly seen you start a lot of threads proclaiming the glory of any US action/program/initiative. so, what's your point? I was thinking that too. My guess is that some people just don't enjoy voicing their ideas/opinions too much and/or don't want to be on a pedestal and/or don't what they are talking about. Chris Losinger wrote: so you've got a selective memory. that's great. Hey, don't steal my thread mister! ;P If you do though, please be kind enough to include my original point. That is, words can easily be misinterpreted and people will always find something to disagree about. Thanks. :) Jeremy Falcon
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After all the time we've spent discussing the issue, Anonymous101, I'm glad we can agree on something. :rolleyes: Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: I'm glad we can agree on something Actually, I was only joking. I cannot agree with you because Satan is Satan, he almost never do things in God's name.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I'm glad we can agree on something Actually, I was only joking. I cannot agree with you because Satan is Satan, he almost never do things in God's name.
Anonymous101 wrote: Actually, I was only joking. Um, so was I. :) I believe GWB cannot be Satan because I don't believe in Satan. Jeremy Falcon
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/19/fleischer.resigns.ap/index.html[^] I can't believe the nerve of this guy! I mean, he wants to write. What a freaking looney!!! :mad: Oh, and to top it off, he just got married six months ago and probably wants to spend time with his wife. If that no good, two-bit scoundrel ever shows his face in public again I'll bite his ear off myself. Oh, and BTW, GWB is Satan! And anyone that doesn't see that is a moron. I mean, who cares if more people think he's doing all right. He's still Satan because he and I do not think alike. Now, I will continue to rant and bitch because it's what I do best. No, this isn't about Chris L, but it serves some points. A: it's stupid to bitch and whine, and B: it's easy for Chris L mistake this as meant for him - just like you mistake those posts to be meant for you. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Oh, and to top it off, he just got married six months ago and probably wants to spend time with his wife i bet they had premarital sex, and GWB found out. -c
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Oh, and to top it off, he just got married six months ago and probably wants to spend time with his wife i bet they had premarital sex, and GWB found out. -c
Chris Losinger
Smaller Animals SoftwareWell then, it's justified! :-D Jeremy Falcon
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Jason Henderson wrote: I don't think that's what Chris really wants But why would you care. In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive especially on anything American, or God forbid, Republician, and, certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. Mike
Mike Gaskey wrote: In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive especially on anything American you have selective reading then. Criticizing your government IS American.:rolleyes: Later,
JoeSox
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Mike Gaskey wrote: In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive and i haven't exactly seen you start a lot of threads proclaiming the glory of any US action/program/initiative. so, what's your point? are you mad because i think there are serious problems with the way the people in charge are handling things? or are you mad that i don't bitch about the things that the people who aren't in charge (and so can't really do anything about anything) are doing? Mike Gaskey wrote: certainly nothing positive on anything remotely conservative. so you've got a selective memory. that's great. whenever i bring up things that a "conservative" should be upset about (like the PATRIOT act, the detention of US citizens without trial, etc. you know, all those nice Constitutional issues..) i get an earful of "well, the Demmmmmmocraaaaattssss have been doing it for yeeeeaaarrrs! how do you like it now????" god forbid i should have a fucking opinion. *edit* (trying to say something positive about something "conservative"....) i think it'd be a good idea to let the assault weapons ban expire. since you can buy a perfectly legal Ruger semi-auto with a 10-round clip for $500, there's no reason to ban a semi-auto AK-47; the difference between the two rifles is cosmetic. so, go conservatives! */edit* -c
Chris Losinger
Smaller Animals SoftwareChris Losinger wrote: i haven't exactly seen you start a lot of threads proclaiming the glory of any US action/program/initiative. Excuse me. Here's a quick list of those I support: 1) Action taken in Afganistan. Only problem I had was that it took too long to get started. No, I don't think all the vermin has been dealt with, no I don't think we should rebuild a nation, yes I think we should support Karzi or any non-fundamentalist (Islamic) that gets elected. Obviously means that I believe we should leave the country (Afganistan)if a fundamentalist comes to power. 2) Action taken in Iraq. 3) Patriot Act. I don't care how long an illegal alien is incarcerated, I am ok with wire taps that are targeted towards a person and not an individual line. We're at war and I believe we need to operate as though we are. 4) Judicial nominees - very much in support of conservative nominees, I believe the country has been damaged beyond belief by activist, liberal judges who make law instead of applying the law. 5) Tort reform - very supportive of any effort to reign in out landish awards (such as the 3M awared to the fool who spilled hot coffee on herself, zillions in tobacco awards, latest attempt to soak the fast food industry). 6) School vouchers - I believe the public school system is in a shambles due to : "diversity", teacher unions, lawyers, parents/kids inability to accept responsibility for their own actions, and political correctness that teach acceptance of many things cultural but fail to teach history and civics. 7) Religuous freedom, but that is freedom of not from. For balance, here's a list of American positions I do not support: 1) Membership in the UN 2) Income redistribution through the tax code, yes, that is social Darwinism. 3) National health care (although at one time I did). 4) The Bush "Roadmap" that promises a Palestinian State at the expense of an Israeli State. 5) Any restrictions on gun ownership including those on fully automatic weapons, possible exception would be for convicted felons. 6) Open borders with Mexico and Canada - believe these need to be heavily patrolled. 7) The War on Drugs - I believe this is an incredible waste of my taxes and a severe drain on the economy. 8) The Bush view that all religions are peaceful - I believe this is naive and ignores current events and logic. 9) Our friendship with Saudi Arabia - I believe the Saudis along with Iran are at the root of
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Chris Losinger wrote: i haven't exactly seen you start a lot of threads proclaiming the glory of any US action/program/initiative. Excuse me. Here's a quick list of those I support: 1) Action taken in Afganistan. Only problem I had was that it took too long to get started. No, I don't think all the vermin has been dealt with, no I don't think we should rebuild a nation, yes I think we should support Karzi or any non-fundamentalist (Islamic) that gets elected. Obviously means that I believe we should leave the country (Afganistan)if a fundamentalist comes to power. 2) Action taken in Iraq. 3) Patriot Act. I don't care how long an illegal alien is incarcerated, I am ok with wire taps that are targeted towards a person and not an individual line. We're at war and I believe we need to operate as though we are. 4) Judicial nominees - very much in support of conservative nominees, I believe the country has been damaged beyond belief by activist, liberal judges who make law instead of applying the law. 5) Tort reform - very supportive of any effort to reign in out landish awards (such as the 3M awared to the fool who spilled hot coffee on herself, zillions in tobacco awards, latest attempt to soak the fast food industry). 6) School vouchers - I believe the public school system is in a shambles due to : "diversity", teacher unions, lawyers, parents/kids inability to accept responsibility for their own actions, and political correctness that teach acceptance of many things cultural but fail to teach history and civics. 7) Religuous freedom, but that is freedom of not from. For balance, here's a list of American positions I do not support: 1) Membership in the UN 2) Income redistribution through the tax code, yes, that is social Darwinism. 3) National health care (although at one time I did). 4) The Bush "Roadmap" that promises a Palestinian State at the expense of an Israeli State. 5) Any restrictions on gun ownership including those on fully automatic weapons, possible exception would be for convicted felons. 6) Open borders with Mexico and Canada - believe these need to be heavily patrolled. 7) The War on Drugs - I believe this is an incredible waste of my taxes and a severe drain on the economy. 8) The Bush view that all religions are peaceful - I believe this is naive and ignores current events and logic. 9) Our friendship with Saudi Arabia - I believe the Saudis along with Iran are at the root of
Mike Gaskey wrote: Here's a quick list of those I support supporting them is not the same as starting a thread about them. for example, i haven't seen you start a thread that says: "I think school vouchers are great!" so, is this a case of my not living up to standards you yourself don't live up to? whatever, it's kind of a pointless argument. Mike Gaskey wrote: I believe that President Bush, while flawed, is an unusual individual well, i agree, up to there. :) -c
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Mike Gaskey wrote: In months of reading his posts I have yet to read one that was positive especially on anything American you have selective reading then. Criticizing your government IS American.:rolleyes: Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org ""Never get caught acting." -Lillian Gish^JoeSox wrote: Criticizing your government IS American. while offering or supporting alternative solutions or positions. To simply criticize, constantly, is anti-American. Mike
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: No, this isn't about Chris L, but it serves some points. A: it's stupid to bitch and whine, and B: it's easy for Chris L mistake this as meant for him - just like you mistake those posts to be meant for you. I didn't think they were meant for me or anyone in particular. Chris' posts were just starting to annoy me instead of amuse me, and they were beginning to make me feel like I'm an idiot for my beliefs. (Hence the "mockery" posts.) I don't think that's what Chris really wants, so I thought it best to tell him how I felt.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Jason Henderson wrote: they were beginning to make me feel like I'm an idiot for my beliefs Just goes to show that your beliefs must not be very strong. A true believer would never experience this. :-D Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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