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Microsoft’s designers are now working together on the future of Windows, Office, and Surface

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    Microsoft’s designers are now working together on the future of Windows, Office, and Surface fyi

    Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

    We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. - Greta Thunberg

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      Microsoft’s designers are now working together on the future of Windows, Office, and Surface fyi

      Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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      Because there was such massive user demand for this. What if, instead, Microsoft fired most of its designers and used that money to hire more, qualified, QA engineers?

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        Microsoft’s designers are now working together on the future of Windows, Office, and Surface fyi

        Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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        It will not make any difference to the quality of their releases because THEY FIRED THEIR QA. How many developers do you know that have time to properly test their code while being slammed with changes from management? I don't know any. Microsoft to business: Don't worry about Windows 10, consumers will test it | Computerworld[^] Just a reminder that one year ago Microsoft fired a lot of their Quality Assurance people (their whole programmatic testing group) - handing over programmatic testing to the developers instead. Since then they've shipped Win10 and Surface with huge b[^] Bloomberg - Are you a robot?[^] Microsoft claims 10 million 'fans' help it test Windows 10, but it's sure got a funny definition of that word - ExtremeTech[^] I'm not a "fan" of Windows or Microsoft and their illusion that consumers and small businesses will just love testing Windows for them will just deplete their perceived "fan" base. This is why I run Win10 Pro CBB at home. I want the patches and feature changes LAST. I do enough testing and troubleshooting at work. I don't need that headache at home. So, if more and more people get off what was Current Branch (I think it's Semi-Annual Targeted now), how is everything going to get tested before release to businesses? Satya really f'ed up on this one.

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          It will not make any difference to the quality of their releases because THEY FIRED THEIR QA. How many developers do you know that have time to properly test their code while being slammed with changes from management? I don't know any. Microsoft to business: Don't worry about Windows 10, consumers will test it | Computerworld[^] Just a reminder that one year ago Microsoft fired a lot of their Quality Assurance people (their whole programmatic testing group) - handing over programmatic testing to the developers instead. Since then they've shipped Win10 and Surface with huge b[^] Bloomberg - Are you a robot?[^] Microsoft claims 10 million 'fans' help it test Windows 10, but it's sure got a funny definition of that word - ExtremeTech[^] I'm not a "fan" of Windows or Microsoft and their illusion that consumers and small businesses will just love testing Windows for them will just deplete their perceived "fan" base. This is why I run Win10 Pro CBB at home. I want the patches and feature changes LAST. I do enough testing and troubleshooting at work. I don't need that headache at home. So, if more and more people get off what was Current Branch (I think it's Semi-Annual Targeted now), how is everything going to get tested before release to businesses? Satya really f'ed up on this one.

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          Yes he did. Worse, he's doubling down on the insanity. I could live with a few bugs, but the specific decisions being forced on users is repulsive. I run Windows 10 Professional, mainly for the one feature I need - some semblance of control over the update/reboot process. I can understand wanting to encourage users to update the OS with security patches, I cannot understand forcing them to update their OS for features (like new icons). Further, forcing reboots of Pro installations is simply criminal.

          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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            Microsoft’s designers are now working together on the future of Windows, Office, and Surface fyi

            Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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            They keep going on and on and on about how animation and blur are the flagship features that form the backbone of their Great New UE. Animation is a resource hog, and blur is extremely bad for the eyes and the occipital lobes, so their "Great New UE" will be laggy performance, optician bills, and brain damage.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Microsoft’s designers are now working together on the future of Windows, Office, and Surface fyi

              Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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              That is rather revolting news to read. Especially the part about the OS people working with the Surface people. That means their user interface is going to get even worse than it is now. The last one I liked was W7 and it has been horrendous in every release after that.

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                Microsoft’s designers are now working together on the future of Windows, Office, and Surface fyi

                Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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                I really dislike Microsoft's direction the last 15 years or so. Every 3 years they come out with a new half assed framework, only to ditch it and replace it with the next half assed framework. The reasoning being that old equates to bad, and new is good. Wrong! Good is good, and bad is bad, and more often than not in the case of Microsoft new is bad. I wish they would fix the 20+ year old bugs in GDI+, invest a bit in Win Forms so it's up to date with multi-monitor setups. They should never have released WPF and UWP. The couple of things I do appreciate out of MS are SQL Server and ASP.NET MVC. They just work and they didn't unnecessarily over complicate the tech.

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                  I really dislike Microsoft's direction the last 15 years or so. Every 3 years they come out with a new half assed framework, only to ditch it and replace it with the next half assed framework. The reasoning being that old equates to bad, and new is good. Wrong! Good is good, and bad is bad, and more often than not in the case of Microsoft new is bad. I wish they would fix the 20+ year old bugs in GDI+, invest a bit in Win Forms so it's up to date with multi-monitor setups. They should never have released WPF and UWP. The couple of things I do appreciate out of MS are SQL Server and ASP.NET MVC. They just work and they didn't unnecessarily over complicate the tech.

                  Wout

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                  well they just want to keep the shareholders happy and sell more licenses ... who cares about some 20+ old bug in gdi which was there when bill gates was there.... now they are in compete with awz , google , apple ... and ....

                  Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

                  We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. - Greta Thunberg

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