Collecting my replies
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Glad to hear you are mature :) This body I am in is only 75; I took up programming in my forties after a career as a psychotherapist, academic, etc. I asked because I am puzzled that you are, evidently, not using your browser's book-mark facility: that, and what I perceive as the pattern in your postings, led me to hypothesize you might be ... young. So much for my psychic powers :) Every day I learn something, is a good day, and CP is a good place to ... learn something ! cheeers, Bill
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
Hi Bill. Good to meet an older programmer. Well my mind still feels young and keen to learn. How long have you been programming? Brian
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Glad to hear you are mature :) This body I am in is only 75; I took up programming in my forties after a career as a psychotherapist, academic, etc. I asked because I am puzzled that you are, evidently, not using your browser's book-mark facility: that, and what I perceive as the pattern in your postings, led me to hypothesize you might be ... young. So much for my psychic powers :) Every day I learn something, is a good day, and CP is a good place to ... learn something ! cheeers, Bill
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
I tend to rush into sending a reply before fully reading relies. I see now that you were in your 40's when you started to program back in the 1980's. Maybe you owned an Apple or TRS-80 computer back then. Approx what age were you when you decided to learn C#? Did you have a knowledge of C or C++ first? Learning new things is also good for the brain and helps prevent Alzheimer's disease. Brian
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I tend to rush into sending a reply before fully reading relies. I see now that you were in your 40's when you started to program back in the 1980's. Maybe you owned an Apple or TRS-80 computer back then. Approx what age were you when you decided to learn C#? Did you have a knowledge of C or C++ first? Learning new things is also good for the brain and helps prevent Alzheimer's disease. Brian
Hi Brian, My first computer was a main-frame at UC Berkeley on which I ran some SPSS factor analysis programs. My first "personal" computer was a little octal training device, followed by a Radio Shack Color Computer :) My little career (ultimately at Adobe) unfolded around programming in PostScript, which, of course, is inside printers. Later, on both Mac and PC, I had experience developing a massive Excel/VBA program to simulate multi-lender power-plant financing and construction. The moment C# with WinForms came out, I knew this was the right stuff, for me. The earlier books on C# by Chris Sells, and Jesse Liberty, were invaluable for me. Later, Jon Skeet's book became my first call. You can't go wrong with (the more advanced) books by Michaelis and Lippert, and Andrew Troelsen. cheers, Bill
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Hill Bill Are you referring to the Wikipedia? I prefer to have a off-line program to collect my replies and web addresses. Brian
No, I was referring to the use of browsers' bookmark facility.
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Set up a separate folder in your email client. CC. yourself in those cases you send from other than "home". As mail comes in, "move" it to the appropriate folder (I prefer manually; or you can set up incoming "rules"). Can archive the folder; delete it; etc. when appropriate.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal
Sounds like a good idea thanks Gerry. I still would like a off-line program to collect the text but your idea is a good start. Brian
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Hi Brian, My first computer was a main-frame at UC Berkeley on which I ran some SPSS factor analysis programs. My first "personal" computer was a little octal training device, followed by a Radio Shack Color Computer :) My little career (ultimately at Adobe) unfolded around programming in PostScript, which, of course, is inside printers. Later, on both Mac and PC, I had experience developing a massive Excel/VBA program to simulate multi-lender power-plant financing and construction. The moment C# with WinForms came out, I knew this was the right stuff, for me. The earlier books on C# by Chris Sells, and Jesse Liberty, were invaluable for me. Later, Jon Skeet's book became my first call. You can't go wrong with (the more advanced) books by Michaelis and Lippert, and Andrew Troelsen. cheers, Bill
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
Interesting thanks Bill. I use to write programs using QuickBasic in the 1990's. I wrote some programsfor my work at a communications company which speeded up things and reduced the work load. There are times when I wonder if I picked the right language to learn so it's good that you are happy in choosing C#. I'll take note of your book suggestions. A good book is indeed very valuable. Brian
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No, I was referring to the use of browsers' bookmark facility.
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
I use to save things as bookmarks to my browser but then had a few problems and lost valuable bookmarks so I don't trust browser bookmarks. These days I tend to create shortcuts to a link and store them into a folder that I can backup. In doing this I can arrange the links into sub folders and give easy to identify names. Brian
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I'm in my mid 60's Bill. Learning a new programming language does get bit more difficult when you are older. According to a recent servey 5% of people that learn a programming language are 60 or older. I started learning to program soon after home computers were available and owned a TRS-80 that had the BASIC programming language. I'm now interested to know why you asked my age. Brian
I started programming in 1966 - I kid you not. I learned C in my late 30s, C++ in my late 40s, and C# in my 60s. I am still learning, and not just programming. Never give up. It seems @BillWoodruff may be a year or so older than me.
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I started programming in 1966 - I kid you not. I learned C in my late 30s, C++ in my late 40s, and C# in my 60s. I am still learning, and not just programming. Never give up. It seems @BillWoodruff may be a year or so older than me.
I arrived in California on January 1, 1966, with long hair, and a guitar :) Programming didn't happen for me until the mid 80's .... orbital re-entry from Tralfamadore took more than a decade. I suspect that, at 75, I am a bit more past my use-by date than Thee, but, I am unequivocally certain that you are wiser ! To me the ideal state is expressed in this quote from Dali:
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“Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy —the joy of being Salvador Dalí— and I ask myself in rapture: What wonderful things is this Salvador Dalí going to accomplish today?”
I would substitute "learn" for "accomplish."
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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I arrived in California on January 1, 1966, with long hair, and a guitar :) Programming didn't happen for me until the mid 80's .... orbital re-entry from Tralfamadore took more than a decade. I suspect that, at 75, I am a bit more past my use-by date than Thee, but, I am unequivocally certain that you are wiser ! To me the ideal state is expressed in this quote from Dali:
Quote:
“Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy —the joy of being Salvador Dalí— and I ask myself in rapture: What wonderful things is this Salvador Dalí going to accomplish today?”
I would substitute "learn" for "accomplish."
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
I never managed to grow long hair, or play the guitar well. So I turned my attention to important life skills such as smoking and drinking. Now as I approach my 74th (a couple of weeks hence) I try to spend more time learning useful stuff that I missed in my younger days. As to wisdom, thanks for the vote of confidence, but I know I am far from wise. We all (or most of us) contribute what we can here, and no one person's worth is greater than another's, apart of course, from @OriginalGriff, who knows everything there is to know. :)
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I never managed to grow long hair, or play the guitar well. So I turned my attention to important life skills such as smoking and drinking. Now as I approach my 74th (a couple of weeks hence) I try to spend more time learning useful stuff that I missed in my younger days. As to wisdom, thanks for the vote of confidence, but I know I am far from wise. We all (or most of us) contribute what we can here, and no one person's worth is greater than another's, apart of course, from @OriginalGriff, who knows everything there is to know. :)
The one thing I do know is that I know nothing.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I'm in my mid 60's Bill. Learning a new programming language does get bit more difficult when you are older. According to a recent servey 5% of people that learn a programming language are 60 or older. I started learning to program soon after home computers were available and owned a TRS-80 that had the BASIC programming language. I'm now interested to know why you asked my age. Brian
Just to continue the theme, I was 60 last February, so we could easily form an "Old Codegers" society in this forum ... :laugh:
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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The one thing I do know is that I know nothing.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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The one thing I do know is that I know nothing.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Of course, being both ne plus ultra, and, primo imter pares, you would have to say that :wtf: It is my pleasure to follow, best as I can, your deep footprints leading toward the shrine of Goddess Techne !
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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The one thing I do know is that I know nothing.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Of course, being both ne plus ultra, and, primo inter pares, you would have to say that :wtf: It is my pleasure to follow, best as I can, your deep footprints leading toward the shrine of Goddess Techne !
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Hi Bill. Good to meet an older programmer. Well my mind still feels young and keen to learn. How long have you been programming? Brian
Brian_TheLion wrote:
Good to meet an older programmer.
We are a large demographic in CP. I do not know what %age.
Brian_TheLion wrote:
Well my mind still feels young and keen to learn.
Ditto! I think that mental exercises like coding keeps the mind feeling young.
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Just to continue the theme, I was 60 last February, so we could easily form an "Old Codegers" society in this forum ... :laugh:
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I arrived in California on January 1, 1966, with long hair, and a guitar :) Programming didn't happen for me until the mid 80's .... orbital re-entry from Tralfamadore took more than a decade. I suspect that, at 75, I am a bit more past my use-by date than Thee, but, I am unequivocally certain that you are wiser ! To me the ideal state is expressed in this quote from Dali:
Quote:
“Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy —the joy of being Salvador Dalí— and I ask myself in rapture: What wonderful things is this Salvador Dalí going to accomplish today?”
I would substitute "learn" for "accomplish."
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
I didn't start programming until I brought a TRS-80 computer apart from usign programmable calculators around the early 1980's. My first introduction to assembly language was to write the letter 'A' in the middle of the screen. I had fun with disassemblers in finding out how computer programs worked and learn a few secrets of arcade games. There were some great games in those days and you had to be skillful to fit you game in a 16k memory space for you had a large market to sell your game. Typing in computer code from a computer magazine started to be a hobby of mine. Brian
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I started programming in 1966 - I kid you not. I learned C in my late 30s, C++ in my late 40s, and C# in my 60s. I am still learning, and not just programming. Never give up. It seems @BillWoodruff may be a year or so older than me.
Interesting Richard. There would not be a lot around in 1966 to program on. It must have been a very large mainframe computers and maybe you used hole punch cards in those days. If your approx 70yrs old then you must have been started learning at about 17yrs old in 1966 and maybe learning C in 1988. I'm just starting to learn C# so I have a lot of catching up to do; but in knowing the basics of computers such as loops, logic etc helps. Brian
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Interesting Richard. There would not be a lot around in 1966 to program on. It must have been a very large mainframe computers and maybe you used hole punch cards in those days. If your approx 70yrs old then you must have been started learning at about 17yrs old in 1966 and maybe learning C in 1988. I'm just starting to learn C# so I have a lot of catching up to do; but in knowing the basics of computers such as loops, logic etc helps. Brian
Yes, punched cards, paper tape, and programming by buttons on the front panel of the processor. I knew nothing about computers when I started my first job, but worked with a guy who taught me the basics. I only learned C# and .NET after I had retired, and there is still much I don't know about it.
