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  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

    When you use the TOP clause with the UPDATE statement, there's no guarantee that the rows to update will be picked in any particular order. Using the MAX(id) option, you could end up missing rows. I notice you've replaced the temporary table with a table variable. Was there a reason for that? IIRC, execution plans for table variables tend to assume they contain a very low number of rows, which might explain the poor performance.


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Richard Deeming wrote:

    When you use the TOP clause with the UPDATE statement, there's no guarantee that the rows to update will be picked in any particular order. Using the MAX(id) option, you could end up missing rows.

    I know, and you can't add an order by to an UPDATE or INSERT. But you can put the SELECT with TOP and ORDER BY in a CTE.

    Richard Deeming wrote:

    I notice you've replaced the temporary table with a table variable. Was there a reason for that?

    No particular reason. I like to keep the scope as local as possible, so it's mostly a habit.

    Richard Deeming wrote:

    IIRC, execution plans for table variables tend to assume they contain a very low number of rows, which might explain the poor performance.

    Table variables don't have statistics, which obviously could affect the plan, but since all ID's are unique I don't think it would make a big difference in this case But I will test it. <edit>Oh, and table variables can't go parallell, which obviously can affect performance a lot in this case.</edit>

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    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

      When you use the TOP clause with the UPDATE statement, there's no guarantee that the rows to update will be picked in any particular order. Using the MAX(id) option, you could end up missing rows. I notice you've replaced the temporary table with a table variable. Was there a reason for that? IIRC, execution plans for table variables tend to assume they contain a very low number of rows, which might explain the poor performance.


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      Jorgen Andersson
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      Done some testing now. And as I suspected, there is no difference in either performance or plan as long as the temp table has one column with unique values. Until the query goes parallel that is. Then the difference is quickly getting huge. But as long as I'm batching the query it stays the same until the batch is big enough to go parallel (which happens between 10000 and 20000 rows in this case). But then I will also get a table lock. And oddly enough, it also goes much slower when parallel until reaching 100000 rows per batch. I will do some more testing on this.

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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      • J Jorgen Andersson

        So I need to regularly update a table with data from another table. The problem is that if I update the normal way I get a table lock on the target table for half an hour, which is frowned upon by the users. So I need to run the update in batches. The other problem is that the ID sequence is having gaps in it. Larger gaps than the batch size. At the moment I have this solution:

        DECLARE
        @LastID int = 0,
        @NextID int,
        @RC int = 1;

        WHILE (@RC > 0)
        BEGIN
        SELECT TOP 5000
        @NextID = s.id
        FROM Source s
        WHERE s.id> @LastID
        ORDER BY s.id
        ;
        UPDATE t
        SET ------
        FROM Source s
        JOIN Target t ON t.id = s.id
        WHERE s.id > @LastID
        AND s.id <= @NextID
        ;
        SET @RC = @@ROWCOUNT;
        SET @LastID = @NextID ;
        END

        Which works just fine, but using two selects is getting under my skin. Any better suggestions for how to do it?

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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        realJSOP
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        Add WITH(NOLOCK) to your selects and joins:

        DECLARE
        @LastID int = 0,
        @NextID int,
        @RC int = 1;

        WHILE (@RC > 0)
        BEGIN
        SELECT TOP 5000
        @NextID = s.id
        FROM Source s WITH(NOLOCK)
        WHERE s.id> @LastID
        ORDER BY s.id
        ;
        UPDATE t
        SET ------
        FROM Source s
        JOIN Target t WITH(NOLOCK) ON t.id = s.id
        WHERE s.id > @LastID
        AND s.id <= @NextID
        ;
        SET @RC = @@ROWCOUNT;
        SET @LastID = @NextID ;
        END

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Add WITH(NOLOCK) to your selects and joins:

          DECLARE
          @LastID int = 0,
          @NextID int,
          @RC int = 1;

          WHILE (@RC > 0)
          BEGIN
          SELECT TOP 5000
          @NextID = s.id
          FROM Source s WITH(NOLOCK)
          WHERE s.id> @LastID
          ORDER BY s.id
          ;
          UPDATE t
          SET ------
          FROM Source s
          JOIN Target t WITH(NOLOCK) ON t.id = s.id
          WHERE s.id > @LastID
          AND s.id <= @NextID
          ;
          SET @RC = @@ROWCOUNT;
          SET @LastID = @NextID ;
          END

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Richard Deeming
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          But only if you understand the risks first. :) Using NOLOCK? Here's How You'll Get the Wrong Query Results. - Brent Ozar Unlimited®[^] Bad habits : Putting NOLOCK everywhere - SQL Sentry[^] Also, it won't work on the target table: Avoid using NOLOCK on SQL Server UPDATE and DELETE statements[^]


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            But only if you understand the risks first. :) Using NOLOCK? Here's How You'll Get the Wrong Query Results. - Brent Ozar Unlimited®[^] Bad habits : Putting NOLOCK everywhere - SQL Sentry[^] Also, it won't work on the target table: Avoid using NOLOCK on SQL Server UPDATE and DELETE statements[^]


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            realJSOP
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            I didn't put nolock on the update statement - I put it on the join. You could just create a job that does the monster update at night.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              I didn't put nolock on the update statement - I put it on the join. You could just create a job that does the monster update at night.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Richard Deeming
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              Quote:

              UPDATE t
              ...
              FROM Source s
              JOIN Target t WITH(NOLOCK) ON t.id = s.id
              ...

              That NOLOCK hint is on the target table. It's exactly the same as the first example from the article I linked to:

              Avoid using NOLOCK on SQL Server UPDATE and DELETE statements[^]:

              UPDATE t1
              SET t1.x = something
              FROM dbo.t1 WITH (NOLOCK)
              INNER JOIN ...;


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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              • J Jorgen Andersson

                So I need to regularly update a table with data from another table. The problem is that if I update the normal way I get a table lock on the target table for half an hour, which is frowned upon by the users. So I need to run the update in batches. The other problem is that the ID sequence is having gaps in it. Larger gaps than the batch size. At the moment I have this solution:

                DECLARE
                @LastID int = 0,
                @NextID int,
                @RC int = 1;

                WHILE (@RC > 0)
                BEGIN
                SELECT TOP 5000
                @NextID = s.id
                FROM Source s
                WHERE s.id> @LastID
                ORDER BY s.id
                ;
                UPDATE t
                SET ------
                FROM Source s
                JOIN Target t ON t.id = s.id
                WHERE s.id > @LastID
                AND s.id <= @NextID
                ;
                SET @RC = @@ROWCOUNT;
                SET @LastID = @NextID ;
                END

                Which works just fine, but using two selects is getting under my skin. Any better suggestions for how to do it?

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                realJSOP
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                Have you tried using a MERGE statement?

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                  Quote:

                  UPDATE t
                  ...
                  FROM Source s
                  JOIN Target t WITH(NOLOCK) ON t.id = s.id
                  ...

                  That NOLOCK hint is on the target table. It's exactly the same as the first example from the article I linked to:

                  Avoid using NOLOCK on SQL Server UPDATE and DELETE statements[^]:

                  UPDATE t1
                  SET t1.x = something
                  FROM dbo.t1 WITH (NOLOCK)
                  INNER JOIN ...;


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  realJSOP
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  We use WITH(NOLOCK) prolifically. Of course, we have indexes on all of our tables, and don't generally do massive updates in the middle of the work day. We have no issues.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    We use WITH(NOLOCK) prolifically. Of course, we have indexes on all of our tables, and don't generally do massive updates in the middle of the work day. We have no issues.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    Jorgen Andersson
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    NOLOCK can cause nonclustered index corruption, and it's also deprecated[^].

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Have you tried using a MERGE statement?

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Jorgen Andersson
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      Yes. The update in my OP is greatly simplified. The actual update is a merge with more than 4000 rows.

                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        NOLOCK can cause nonclustered index corruption, and it's also deprecated[^].

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        realJSOP
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        That's something for our DBAs to worry about. :)

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                        -----
                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                        -----
                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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