Code Project Project (CPP) [UPDATED 5/31]
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How to develop a voting and decision making system so that we fast and flexible could make decisions about our projects.? We can use CP directly like this: - could be open 48 hour after the proposition is made. - people can can put forward their ideas and be elected on. CP's own vote system should work here. - never on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday (US Central Time) The subject line could be: - one of theese "CPP vote 24h-24h:" (24h for presenting alternativs and 24h for voting) or "CPP vote 48h" (all alternativs are presented, so start voting at once) - the first reply would be your proposal or problem, with project name if necessary. - people would reply, and the reply with the most votes would automatically be accepted as the final decision after 48h. If it is a bad decision it can always be elected down with a new proposition. - the one who has won the voting would change the subject line in his message to "Decided" and copy the message to the project logg. If you have some other idea then reply to this and we can vote... jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
Fine with me for most things, but when we divide up into seperate projects, I think we should have a seperate article for each project with voting done at the bottom. Also, some things do best with the CP-poll-of-the-week style of polling.
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(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote: Agent Bobs YES!!! damn clippy! There was a rumoour that the minion had developed an engine for creating :bob: acf and acs MSAgent Character animations. Also that he had already hooked :bob: up to an AI backend back in January. Obviously it wan't a big success or it would be better known I guess. Regardz Colin J Davies
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I wonder who made this. :P -Steven "the yellow dart" Hicks
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How about we just split into coding units, so different teams focus on different sectors of the project?? Would this work?**
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Sounds ok to me. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Jason Henderson wrote: This may satisfy JoeSox and also give the rest of us some AI experience. :-D I think it is definitely time for some AI articles here on CP, which I am planning on doing. I am currently planning an ALife demo, nothing fancy just a demo on using Jungian theory(which the AI community doesn't see the necessity of this, imo) to simulate conscious human thinking. It will probably just be a dialogbox app, I installed VS.Net Beta2 msdn edition to get familiar with C#. It's just a matter of finding the time. I started a project at sourceforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/humanaiproject/[^] and plan to start "recruiting" people after I get approved with aaai.org. But this project I want to be the real deal if I can't hook up with some professional group (university or MIT;P COG[^] needs my theories/ideas/approach:-D) Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein (INTP)JoeSox wrote: I am currently planning an ALife demo, nothing fancy just a demo on using Jungian theory(which the AI community doesn't see the necessity of this, imo) to simulate conscious human thinking. Interesting. I know very little about "Jungian theory" but I after doing a little research (Since your post). A couple of wild ideas have struck me in regards to the derived Myers-Briggs code. eg there are 8 states, and 16 positions. So we now have 2^7 combinations. If we to consider that any of the 2^7 combinations could be in response to the last post and atates and attitudes of the respondent. We would end up with 2^14 combinations. This logic could be stored in either a btree or a state - machine code. And would result in determining which of the 8 states to use in communication. ---- As in the analogy of telling a joke, the time really matters. Well with an "anthromorphic" character, when, where and why it changes it's personality is of great importance to another form creating a relationship. ---- Regardz Colin J Davies
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I wonder who made this. :P -Steven "the yellow dart" Hicks
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"the minion" himself/herself I guess. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Molecular graphics program for visualising molecule structures CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
Odd that I should find a posting for this here. I'd be willing to work on this one. I already have code for this (well a start anyways). I benched it some time ago, however.
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Not sure how much I can help, but count me in anyway :) The tigress is here :-D
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Some type of medical visualization software? Would be a large project that would require a large number of people.
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Yeah - I'm still trying to find a service provider for my two tin cans and string that I bought over with me. cheers, Chris Maunder
Thats your problem - north America uses different thickness string to the rest of the world to protect their home market :laugh: The tigress is here :-D
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A project management system. Phase tracking, bugs, document storage, client feedback area etc. Not a source control system, but a system for the management of a project that both managers/clients and the developers are happy with. We all bitch about management of projects, so lets do something about it for once.
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I like the idea but interesting name for it. It would get lots of attention. :laugh: -Steven "the yellow dart" Hicks
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How to develop a voting and decision making system so that we fast and flexible could make decisions about our projects.? We can use CP directly like this: - could be open 48 hour after the proposition is made. - people can can put forward their ideas and be elected on. CP's own vote system should work here. - never on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday (US Central Time) The subject line could be: - one of theese "CPP vote 24h-24h:" (24h for presenting alternativs and 24h for voting) or "CPP vote 48h" (all alternativs are presented, so start voting at once) - the first reply would be your proposal or problem, with project name if necessary. - people would reply, and the reply with the most votes would automatically be accepted as the final decision after 48h. If it is a bad decision it can always be elected down with a new proposition. - the one who has won the voting would change the subject line in his message to "Decided" and copy the message to the project logg. If you have some other idea then reply to this and we can vote... jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
I have made a polling proposal to Chris in the suggestions forum. Plus a separate Projects type page.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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How about we just split into coding units, so different teams focus on different sectors of the project?? Would this work?**
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Here's how I envision it, but I assume the project leader will decide on team structure and function. Project A has 20 developers that want to work on it. They assign a project leader who will assign roles. Like any software project, Project A is split into sections (say GUI, app preferences, and main functionality). The project leader will asses his resources (developers) and assign them to teams for these different sections.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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I agree 100%. We tend to believe that the more bodies we throw at a project, the faster it will get done. In fact, it turns out to be the opposite. That's why I'd like to see us work on more than one project, maybe even the top 5. With about 10 developers each.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
10 developers is perfect if they work actively. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Here's how I envision it, but I assume the project leader will decide on team structure and function. Project A has 20 developers that want to work on it. They assign a project leader who will assign roles. Like any software project, Project A is split into sections (say GUI, app preferences, and main functionality). The project leader will asses his resources (developers) and assign them to teams for these different sections.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
How about this: 1) We start with the most popular project, for example UGLY and call it Project A, assign it a project leader, and let people sign up. Probably 15-25 will sign up and we will have a stong group that can start working right away. 2) People who have not signed up at Project A can then vote on which shall be the next project, Project B, assign project leader, and let people sign up, and start working. 3) Then Project C etc. until everybody have found a project were they want to work in. This could be an ongoing process were new volunteers sign up and new projects are found for them. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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JoeSox wrote: I am currently planning an ALife demo, nothing fancy just a demo on using Jungian theory(which the AI community doesn't see the necessity of this, imo) to simulate conscious human thinking. Interesting. I know very little about "Jungian theory" but I after doing a little research (Since your post). A couple of wild ideas have struck me in regards to the derived Myers-Briggs code. eg there are 8 states, and 16 positions. So we now have 2^7 combinations. If we to consider that any of the 2^7 combinations could be in response to the last post and atates and attitudes of the respondent. We would end up with 2^14 combinations. This logic could be stored in either a btree or a state - machine code. And would result in determining which of the 8 states to use in communication. ---- As in the analogy of telling a joke, the time really matters. Well with an "anthromorphic" character, when, where and why it changes it's personality is of great importance to another form creating a relationship. ---- Regardz Colin J Davies
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**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
Colin Davies wrote: We would end up with 2^14 combinations. This logic could be stored in either a btree or a state - machine code. And would result in determining which of the 8 states to use in communication. well, I haven't thought of it that way. The way my research is going, ideally, it makes sense to simulate neurotransmitters which in turn would effect Sensation,Intuition, thinking, and feeling. Which would result in simulating any of the 16 personalities. I wrote a little intro to my ideas here[^]. why are you interested in the 8 states? Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein (INTP) -
Colin Davies wrote: We would end up with 2^14 combinations. This logic could be stored in either a btree or a state - machine code. And would result in determining which of the 8 states to use in communication. well, I haven't thought of it that way. The way my research is going, ideally, it makes sense to simulate neurotransmitters which in turn would effect Sensation,Intuition, thinking, and feeling. Which would result in simulating any of the 16 personalities. I wrote a little intro to my ideas here[^]. why are you interested in the 8 states? Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein (INTP)Okay, I have to be careful I don't confuse myself here. :-) Any I hope we are on the same page. The eight states (or functions) are the output, by means of facial expressions and bodylanguage and grammar used. The 16 personalities, are used partially for determining which of the states the AI is in. What I'm thinking about is having a consistent characterisation, so even if the AI's responses aren't great, the AI presents itself well. Options for the AI would be how fast the states could change. Any being going from ANGRY (Introverted Feeling) to Jocular extraverted intuition in a flash of the hat is likely to arouse suspicion. IMHO: A good AI at emotional connections, would have the ability to use Neuro Liguistic Programming to detect the personality of who it was communicating with, thus it could then respond with a personality base similar to the user. Regardz Colin J Davies
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**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
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Okay, I have to be careful I don't confuse myself here. :-) Any I hope we are on the same page. The eight states (or functions) are the output, by means of facial expressions and bodylanguage and grammar used. The 16 personalities, are used partially for determining which of the states the AI is in. What I'm thinking about is having a consistent characterisation, so even if the AI's responses aren't great, the AI presents itself well. Options for the AI would be how fast the states could change. Any being going from ANGRY (Introverted Feeling) to Jocular extraverted intuition in a flash of the hat is likely to arouse suspicion. IMHO: A good AI at emotional connections, would have the ability to use Neuro Liguistic Programming to detect the personality of who it was communicating with, thus it could then respond with a personality base similar to the user. Regardz Colin J Davies
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This could be addictive
**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
Colin Davies wrote: IMHO: A good AI at emotional connections, would have the ability to use Neuro Liguistic Programming to detect the personality of who it was communicating with, thus it could then respond with a personality base similar to the user. When you speak of NLP, and so we are one the same page, do you mean this? http://skepdic.com/neurolin.html[^] if so NLP is more a form of Psychological therapy than anything else, and could be learned by my HAI:-D well, humans are learning machines. I am working on my HAI so that whatever it learns it will have the ability to do, just like real humans. For example, if my HAI has learned and formed it's own concept of "anger", then it will respond according to it's own personality preferences(simulated neurotransmitters that run the Self(MBTI)) according to the current situation and environment(like if a person was yelling at the HAI for some reason). :cool: Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein (INTP) -
Colin Davies wrote: IMHO: A good AI at emotional connections, would have the ability to use Neuro Liguistic Programming to detect the personality of who it was communicating with, thus it could then respond with a personality base similar to the user. When you speak of NLP, and so we are one the same page, do you mean this? http://skepdic.com/neurolin.html[^] if so NLP is more a form of Psychological therapy than anything else, and could be learned by my HAI:-D well, humans are learning machines. I am working on my HAI so that whatever it learns it will have the ability to do, just like real humans. For example, if my HAI has learned and formed it's own concept of "anger", then it will respond according to it's own personality preferences(simulated neurotransmitters that run the Self(MBTI)) according to the current situation and environment(like if a person was yelling at the HAI for some reason). :cool: Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein (INTP)Joe, Skepdic.com as usually states some good clear truths. ----- IMHO: 98% of the NLP stuff about is garbage, and is as useful as aromatherapy and cannibalism to become smarter. However there in the early stages of the NLP philosophy there was a lot of sense made, but then it became a marketing scam. ----- IMHO again: Consider these cases A man is attracted to a female, so he breaks the ice. "Hi look I'm all alone here can I buy you a drink", Response a.) "Sure, I'll have a white wine." Response b.) "An orange juice would be loverly." Response d.) "I could sure down a Bud now." Okay now match up the man's next line setting. "You wouldn't know anywhere in this town that I can get a radiator fixed" "I see a new play is being shown the road at the theater ." "This is a real charming place isn't it." Easy huh, But not only is what the mans topic different but, also the language type and structure he uses changes as well. Consider the differnece in how you talk to a young child, and to your boss. Regardz Colin J Davies
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**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
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How about this: 1) We start with the most popular project, for example UGLY and call it Project A, assign it a project leader, and let people sign up. Probably 15-25 will sign up and we will have a stong group that can start working right away. 2) People who have not signed up at Project A can then vote on which shall be the next project, Project B, assign project leader, and let people sign up, and start working. 3) Then Project C etc. until everybody have found a project were they want to work in. This could be an ongoing process were new volunteers sign up and new projects are found for them. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
Here's the way Chris M. explained how it would probably work: A project will be alot like articles and anyone can create one. Once its created, the leader/creator can accept requests to join the team. Then the leader will assign jobs. So we could have any number of projects going at once.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Here's the way Chris M. explained how it would probably work: A project will be alot like articles and anyone can create one. Once its created, the leader/creator can accept requests to join the team. Then the leader will assign jobs. So we could have any number of projects going at once.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill