SARS in the US
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CNN international does not report the SARS cases. That is what I am talking about: US sources sending out to the globe do not mention US cases. I am not talking about some backwater banana republic news agency. I mean the same sources that we get sick of for being Americentric because they are American owned. Roger Wright wrote: I suspect that because there have been no fatalities here, the news isn't sensational enough to publish. Death sells so much better than stories of people getting adequate treatment and living. I suspect that is the case. However it is still strange that local US news mentions them but international US sources do not. Anyway. Enough on this matter. It is no big deal. We all realised the media is daft awhile back :)
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Paul Watson wrote: CNN international does not report the SARS cases. Yeah, CNN is a "reliable" news source. Its like saying /. has a unbiased review of Windows on it. Matt Newman
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Don't you people understand yet? The US is not responsible for anything and never does anything wrong. It's always somebody else's fault. The US finger of blame only points outward. :)
Judging by the number of Americans here :~ , it's a wonder your post hasn't gone gray. Ever been called unpatriotic? Hey, in case you don't understand, I'm on your side. It takes a lot of courage to speak out against what your country is doing- be it USA, India, or anywhere else. Regards,
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Good lord you yanks are getting worse than a defensive VB developer at a C++ conference. Calm down. I have not accused you of anything. I do however think that it is slightly fishy or hypocritical that US based media agencies are not mentioning a single thing about SARS cases in the US. South Africa had a SARS scare, it turned up on quite a few foreign news networks pretty damned quickly even though it was a false case. Same with every single other country that has had a SARS scare. It is immediately picked up and bandied about as more proof that SARS is here to conquer the world. Yet no mention of the cases in the US. Look all of this is just talk, I am not having sleepless nights over nor will I start. I don't think you are bad people for it, so relax. It just is strange that nobody outside of the US has heard of these US cases yet we have heard of every single other country that has even had a whiff of SARS.
Paul Watson
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Hope you don't mind, Paul ! It's too good to let pass by. If you don't like it, I'll change it. Regards,
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Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Paul Watson wrote: Weren't we screaming blue murder the other week because China was not reporting the truth on it's SARS cases? Sure, that was on a grander scale but the US is not even listed when reports show the lists of SARS affected countries. Oh, good lord. If you look at the URL for the site in Chris' original post you will notice that it is "cdc.gov" - thats 'gov' as in US government. The US government is publically posting all SARS statistics for the country - and there is something naferious about that? Give me a break. How is that even remotely comparable to the situation in China? I've heard those same statistics guoted both on national and local news broadcasts. Sure, Toronto gets most of the attention - but for obvious reasons I should think.
Stan Shannon wrote: Toronto gets most of the attention - but for obvious reasons I should think You've lost me there...:confused: cheers, Chris Maunder
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Stan Shannon wrote: Toronto gets most of the attention - but for obvious reasons I should think You've lost me there...:confused: cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: You've lost me there There have been 30 or so confirmed deaths from SARS in Canada. Most (all?) have been in Toronto. No confirmed deaths in the US. It seems obvious to me that such a concentration of deaths in one place would get the most attention. If it were happening in a US city, I firmly believe that the international press would be gleefully reporting about the breakdown in the US health care system. If there is a conspiracy going on here (which I don't believe) it is the press's bid to cover up how superior the US health care system is to those managed by the state - either in Canada or China.
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Chris Maunder wrote: You've lost me there There have been 30 or so confirmed deaths from SARS in Canada. Most (all?) have been in Toronto. No confirmed deaths in the US. It seems obvious to me that such a concentration of deaths in one place would get the most attention. If it were happening in a US city, I firmly believe that the international press would be gleefully reporting about the breakdown in the US health care system. If there is a conspiracy going on here (which I don't believe) it is the press's bid to cover up how superior the US health care system is to those managed by the state - either in Canada or China.
Stan Shannon wrote: No confirmed deaths in the US Gotcha. Seems only a matter of time (days?) then, since the mortality rate is so high. Stan Shannon wrote: press's bid to cover up how superior the US health care system is to those managed by the state This is a whole different argument and one that isn't as simple as "private is better than public". ;) cheers, Chris Maunder
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Stan Shannon wrote: No confirmed deaths in the US Gotcha. Seems only a matter of time (days?) then, since the mortality rate is so high. Stan Shannon wrote: press's bid to cover up how superior the US health care system is to those managed by the state This is a whole different argument and one that isn't as simple as "private is better than public". ;) cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Gotcha. Seems only a matter of time (days?) then, since the mortality rate is so high. I'm not sure I follow you there. Granted, every thing being equal, the US should have seen about 6 deaths, but there could be any number of factors affecting the death rate in the US vs. China and/or Canada. The numbers here are still too low to have much statistical significance. Chris Maunder wrote: one that isn't as simple as "private is better than public". But it might be that simple. Personally, I have little doubt that if the situation were reversed such a comparison would be at the top of the international media's agenda, but I have a tendency to be paranoid about such things.
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Hope you don't mind, Paul ! It's too good to let pass by. If you don't like it, I'll change it. LOL, no worries Vikram. I am rather chuffed you thought it was sig worthy :)
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
I might have to bribe someone to use one of my quotes for a sig line :laugh: The tigress is here :-D
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We were just talking about SARS and how we don't hear anything about cases in the US, but lots about the 19 suspect and 12 probable in Toronto. I just found this. California: 49 suspect, 21 probable Washington: 27 suspect, 2 probable New York: 30 suspect, 9 probable and on it goes, with a total of 297 suspect and 66 probable cases in the US. I was just wondering if readers outside Canada hear about the US cases. Are media being selective in reporting or am I just watching the wrong channels? cheers, Chris Maunder
Well, there haven't been any SARS deaths in the US. There has also been speculation that the SARS strain in the US is a weak strain of SARS because the death rate seems to be zero (or maybe they're simply misdiagnosing something else as SARS). So, SARS in the US isn't much different than a nasty, non-lethal cold. I guess that's why it hasn't attracted much attention. Death toll according to the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2969247.stm[^] ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion