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    Kent Sharkey
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    Windows Latest[^]:

    Windows 10 does allow users to remap the keys on your keyboard with a few registry tweaks, but Registry editor isn’t exactly an easy tool to customize the operating system and bend it to your will, which is why there is a market for third-party software like SharpKeys that writes this information directly to the registry.

    Does anyone really need that Caps Lock key?

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      Windows Latest[^]:

      Windows 10 does allow users to remap the keys on your keyboard with a few registry tweaks, but Registry editor isn’t exactly an easy tool to customize the operating system and bend it to your will, which is why there is a market for third-party software like SharpKeys that writes this information directly to the registry.

      Does anyone really need that Caps Lock key?

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      Joe Woodbury
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      But will it have a fabulous icon?

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        Windows Latest[^]:

        Windows 10 does allow users to remap the keys on your keyboard with a few registry tweaks, but Registry editor isn’t exactly an easy tool to customize the operating system and bend it to your will, which is why there is a market for third-party software like SharpKeys that writes this information directly to the registry.

        Does anyone really need that Caps Lock key?

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Or you could just use sharpkeys, which won't consume 20% of your system resources, just to make the Pause button do something useful.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Windows Latest[^]:

          Windows 10 does allow users to remap the keys on your keyboard with a few registry tweaks, but Registry editor isn’t exactly an easy tool to customize the operating system and bend it to your will, which is why there is a market for third-party software like SharpKeys that writes this information directly to the registry.

          Does anyone really need that Caps Lock key?

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          Dan Neely
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          Other than opening a github issue at the entire powertools repo level is there any way to send MS feedback about the proposal? I'm very interested in one of the stretch features:

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          Currently, there exists no plan to incorporate the creation of shortcuts for specific keyboards. Is this an expected use case?

          I'm using a tool that AutoHotKey's forum recommended instead of AHK to map the keys on my macbook's built in keyboard to windows standard (Apple's hardware map has the modifiers mapped to match macOS behavior) without simultaneously reversing the order of modifiers on my external keyboard. Unfortunately that tool's driver appears to be buggy; and at least once a week when waking from sleep or plugging my dock in I lose all hardware keyboard function and have to reboot. :mad: A friend of mine has a related problem that being able to treat different keyboards distinctly would address. He's trying to learn a foreign language with a cyrillic alphabet; in Linux setting up one keyboard to use the US layout and the second to use a foreign one is only a few clicks. Short of using AHK or some other sketchy software to remap keys one at a time there's no way to do that in windows at all.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            Other than opening a github issue at the entire powertools repo level is there any way to send MS feedback about the proposal? I'm very interested in one of the stretch features:

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            Currently, there exists no plan to incorporate the creation of shortcuts for specific keyboards. Is this an expected use case?

            I'm using a tool that AutoHotKey's forum recommended instead of AHK to map the keys on my macbook's built in keyboard to windows standard (Apple's hardware map has the modifiers mapped to match macOS behavior) without simultaneously reversing the order of modifiers on my external keyboard. Unfortunately that tool's driver appears to be buggy; and at least once a week when waking from sleep or plugging my dock in I lose all hardware keyboard function and have to reboot. :mad: A friend of mine has a related problem that being able to treat different keyboards distinctly would address. He's trying to learn a foreign language with a cyrillic alphabet; in Linux setting up one keyboard to use the US layout and the second to use a foreign one is only a few clicks. Short of using AHK or some other sketchy software to remap keys one at a time there's no way to do that in windows at all.

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            Kent Sharkey
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            I think the issues is the only real way - that's where most of the product teams have switched their focus.

            TTFN - Kent

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            • D Dan Neely

              Other than opening a github issue at the entire powertools repo level is there any way to send MS feedback about the proposal? I'm very interested in one of the stretch features:

              Quote:

              Currently, there exists no plan to incorporate the creation of shortcuts for specific keyboards. Is this an expected use case?

              I'm using a tool that AutoHotKey's forum recommended instead of AHK to map the keys on my macbook's built in keyboard to windows standard (Apple's hardware map has the modifiers mapped to match macOS behavior) without simultaneously reversing the order of modifiers on my external keyboard. Unfortunately that tool's driver appears to be buggy; and at least once a week when waking from sleep or plugging my dock in I lose all hardware keyboard function and have to reboot. :mad: A friend of mine has a related problem that being able to treat different keyboards distinctly would address. He's trying to learn a foreign language with a cyrillic alphabet; in Linux setting up one keyboard to use the US layout and the second to use a foreign one is only a few clicks. Short of using AHK or some other sketchy software to remap keys one at a time there's no way to do that in windows at all.

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Dan Neely wrote:

              He's trying to learn a foreign language with a cyrillic alphabet; in Linux setting up one keyboard to use the US layout and the second to use a foreign one is only a few clicks. Short of using AHK or some other sketchy software to remap keys one at a time there's no way to do that in windows at all.

              Maybe I'm misunderstanding the requirements, here, but Shirley it's just a matter of installing the input language drivers, then you can use a user-defined hot-key combo or click the Languages button (it turns up next to the system tray, when more than one keyboard is available) to switch to the one you want. In win 7, it was all in the Region and Language settings (Keyboards and Language tab, click "Add keyboard", click "Add" in the new window, then select the language you want from the list that appears) (you can tell I've had to do this often).  I've no idea (and, frankly, DGAF) where they've buried it in the godawful winio "settings app".

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Dan Neely wrote:

                He's trying to learn a foreign language with a cyrillic alphabet; in Linux setting up one keyboard to use the US layout and the second to use a foreign one is only a few clicks. Short of using AHK or some other sketchy software to remap keys one at a time there's no way to do that in windows at all.

                Maybe I'm misunderstanding the requirements, here, but Shirley it's just a matter of installing the input language drivers, then you can use a user-defined hot-key combo or click the Languages button (it turns up next to the system tray, when more than one keyboard is available) to switch to the one you want. In win 7, it was all in the Region and Language settings (Keyboards and Language tab, click "Add keyboard", click "Add" in the new window, then select the language you want from the list that appears) (you can tell I've had to do this often).  I've no idea (and, frankly, DGAF) where they've buried it in the godawful winio "settings app".

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Dan Neely
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                It's not a case of switching between layouts but of having them both active at once on different keyboards.

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  It's not a case of switching between layouts but of having them both active at once on different keyboards.

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Gotcha.  AFAIK, ms can't do that.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • K Kent Sharkey

                    Windows Latest[^]:

                    Windows 10 does allow users to remap the keys on your keyboard with a few registry tweaks, but Registry editor isn’t exactly an easy tool to customize the operating system and bend it to your will, which is why there is a market for third-party software like SharpKeys that writes this information directly to the registry.

                    Does anyone really need that Caps Lock key?

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                    David A Gray
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                    I hope those plans include making it part of the new PowerToys.

                    David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting

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                      I hope those plans include making it part of the new PowerToys.

                      David A. Gray Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting

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                      Dan Neely
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                      The spec document is hosted in the powertoys github repo, so I'd be surprised if it ends up anywhere else.

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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