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Programming without code: The rise of no-code software development

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    Kent Sharkey
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    IEEE Spectrum[^]:

    Microsoft’s Power Apps, Oracle’s Visual Builder, and other tools let you create software without needing to code

    I think I'll come up with no-no-code software development

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      IEEE Spectrum[^]:

      Microsoft’s Power Apps, Oracle’s Visual Builder, and other tools let you create software without needing to code

      I think I'll come up with no-no-code software development

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      Nelek
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      Kent Sharkey wrote:

      let you create software without needing to code

      That explains a lot...

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        IEEE Spectrum[^]:

        Microsoft’s Power Apps, Oracle’s Visual Builder, and other tools let you create software without needing to code

        I think I'll come up with no-no-code software development

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Kent Sharkey wrote:

        I think I'll come up with no-no-code

        I've been writing that for years -- at least, that's what everyone else calls it.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Kent Sharkey wrote:

          let you create software without needing to code

          That explains a lot...

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Mark_Wallace
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          The thing is that it's pointless. The hardest thing about coding isn't writing the code -- that only requires learning (or looking up) syntax. The hard part is the logic.  Taking away the code doesn't take that away, so unless all programs in the future are going to be single-operation, logic-not-required affairs, you're still going to need developers. And most of those developers will spend as much time working on the code as using this "plug-in" cazzabubbolo.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            IEEE Spectrum[^]:

            Microsoft’s Power Apps, Oracle’s Visual Builder, and other tools let you create software without needing to code

            I think I'll come up with no-no-code software development

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            GenJerDan
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            From now on, all our apps should be done in MIT Scratch.

            We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, VidMe and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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              The thing is that it's pointless. The hardest thing about coding isn't writing the code -- that only requires learning (or looking up) syntax. The hard part is the logic.  Taking away the code doesn't take that away, so unless all programs in the future are going to be single-operation, logic-not-required affairs, you're still going to need developers. And most of those developers will spend as much time working on the code as using this "plug-in" cazzabubbolo.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Greg Utas
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              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              The hard part is the logic.

              Exactly. Even if natural language understanding was good enough to write the code given the spec, the problem would be making the spec complete and unambiguous. The whining would then be about how difficult it is to write a spec.

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                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                The hard part is the logic.

                Exactly. Even if natural language understanding was good enough to write the code given the spec, the problem would be making the spec complete and unambiguous. The whining would then be about how difficult it is to write a spec.

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                40-50 years ago, programmers were rejoicing: High level programming languages - great! We don't need to comment our code any more! Today: Quanting computing - great! Now we can solve problems that are ambiguously specified!

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                  40-50 years ago, programmers were rejoicing: High level programming languages - great! We don't need to comment our code any more! Today: Quanting computing - great! Now we can solve problems that are ambiguously specified!

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                  Was quantum computing ever touted for ambiguous problems? Problems that take exponential time, sure. But wby not ambiguous problems?! There will be lots of results, and users can just pick the ones that they like! Perfect for economic forecasting. :)

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                    The thing is that it's pointless. The hardest thing about coding isn't writing the code -- that only requires learning (or looking up) syntax. The hard part is the logic.  Taking away the code doesn't take that away, so unless all programs in the future are going to be single-operation, logic-not-required affairs, you're still going to need developers. And most of those developers will spend as much time working on the code as using this "plug-in" cazzabubbolo.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                    The thing is that it's pointless.

                    On the contrary, no-code and low-code environments are becoming much bigger. I have to deal with a low-code environment because it was already in use when I got hired. And it is an enterprise app running the business. They are not pointless at all.

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                    • K Kent Sharkey

                      IEEE Spectrum[^]:

                      Microsoft’s Power Apps, Oracle’s Visual Builder, and other tools let you create software without needing to code

                      I think I'll come up with no-no-code software development

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                      ZurdoDev
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                      We'll still need developers to write the no-code software. :^)

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