Egyptology and computer science
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Egyptology and computer science have nothing to do with each other. So I was extremely surprised back in December 2018 when I was trying get error correction working in 24 dimensional space based off the recent discovery of Maryna Viazovska[^]. I took a break from coding and watched one of those crackpot Egyptology ancient alien youtube videos for entertainment and noticed something I've never noticed before. Apparently the Egyptian royal cubit was 523.5mm in length. This ratio happens to be the inverse of the solution to the Kepler conjecture[^]. It's an extremely big coincidence that this number would just pop out. Right? I spent the next few weeks trying to figure out how the ancient Egyptians would have known about this sphere packing ratio. Mathematicians will say very abstract things such as PI/6 = 0.5235. But in the natural world these packing ratios known as atomic packing factors[^] are how atoms are arranged. Atoms arrange themselves in the HCP, BCC, FCC and SC physical structures[^]. A ratio of 0.5235 is a simple cubic unit cell. The only natural element on the Earth that uses the simple cubic structure is polonium[^]. But what does it all mean? I've got to admit that this
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Egyptology and computer science have nothing to do with each other. So I was extremely surprised back in December 2018 when I was trying get error correction working in 24 dimensional space based off the recent discovery of Maryna Viazovska[^]. I took a break from coding and watched one of those crackpot Egyptology ancient alien youtube videos for entertainment and noticed something I've never noticed before. Apparently the Egyptian royal cubit was 523.5mm in length. This ratio happens to be the inverse of the solution to the Kepler conjecture[^]. It's an extremely big coincidence that this number would just pop out. Right? I spent the next few weeks trying to figure out how the ancient Egyptians would have known about this sphere packing ratio. Mathematicians will say very abstract things such as PI/6 = 0.5235. But in the natural world these packing ratios known as atomic packing factors[^] are how atoms are arranged. Atoms arrange themselves in the HCP, BCC, FCC and SC physical structures[^]. A ratio of 0.5235 is a simple cubic unit cell. The only natural element on the Earth that uses the simple cubic structure is polonium[^]. But what does it all mean? I've got to admit that this
Interesting post. Is this a close summary to what you are saying? 1. Similar mathematical values often arise while calculating values in two completely different realms of study 2. Human brains tend to try to find the significance of why similar values seem to arise in two completely different realms of study. 3. There is no likely significance, but most probably just coincidence. From this, it is possible you are making yet another conjecture. ?? There is no GUT (Global Unification Theory).
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Egyptology and computer science have nothing to do with each other. So I was extremely surprised back in December 2018 when I was trying get error correction working in 24 dimensional space based off the recent discovery of Maryna Viazovska[^]. I took a break from coding and watched one of those crackpot Egyptology ancient alien youtube videos for entertainment and noticed something I've never noticed before. Apparently the Egyptian royal cubit was 523.5mm in length. This ratio happens to be the inverse of the solution to the Kepler conjecture[^]. It's an extremely big coincidence that this number would just pop out. Right? I spent the next few weeks trying to figure out how the ancient Egyptians would have known about this sphere packing ratio. Mathematicians will say very abstract things such as PI/6 = 0.5235. But in the natural world these packing ratios known as atomic packing factors[^] are how atoms are arranged. Atoms arrange themselves in the HCP, BCC, FCC and SC physical structures[^]. A ratio of 0.5235 is a simple cubic unit cell. The only natural element on the Earth that uses the simple cubic structure is polonium[^]. But what does it all mean? I've got to admit that this
I had something similar happen with abrahamic scripture, particularly the torah (and the OT in the bible). I'm not religious, but I'm fascinated with it. There are some amazing things in there about how we're "programmed" if you know where to look. And it floored me when I figured out that it was ancient sociology at least as much as religion. It threw me for months, how some bronze age folks would be able to do broad predictions like Ezekiel 16 or the redeemer archetype in Isaiah 53. things based on past pattern, until I realized how they did it. Without getting into all of it, because it would be long, basically they exploited (whether they knew it or not) evolutionary-like adaption of folk tales of human behavior over generations using oral history, wherein useful/apropos stories would get repeated and adapted to the situation and the others die out. Over enough generations, patterns emerge, and those patterns help predict or describe us. Weird, but not supernatural. Just clever. :)
Real programmers use butterflies
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Interesting post. Is this a close summary to what you are saying? 1. Similar mathematical values often arise while calculating values in two completely different realms of study 2. Human brains tend to try to find the significance of why similar values seem to arise in two completely different realms of study. 3. There is no likely significance, but most probably just coincidence. From this, it is possible you are making yet another conjecture. ?? There is no GUT (Global Unification Theory).
raddevus wrote:
Is this a close summary to what you are saying?
Correct, there is no significance to the Egyptian measurements. It's just crackpot stuff. Our modern meter is tangentially related to the Egyptian royal cubit and that's why crackpots are attracted to those mysteries. I am apparently not immune and it took me a while to figure out why those numbers were popping up in ancient Egypt. Best Wishes, -David Delaune
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I had something similar happen with abrahamic scripture, particularly the torah (and the OT in the bible). I'm not religious, but I'm fascinated with it. There are some amazing things in there about how we're "programmed" if you know where to look. And it floored me when I figured out that it was ancient sociology at least as much as religion. It threw me for months, how some bronze age folks would be able to do broad predictions like Ezekiel 16 or the redeemer archetype in Isaiah 53. things based on past pattern, until I realized how they did it. Without getting into all of it, because it would be long, basically they exploited (whether they knew it or not) evolutionary-like adaption of folk tales of human behavior over generations using oral history, wherein useful/apropos stories would get repeated and adapted to the situation and the others die out. Over enough generations, patterns emerge, and those patterns help predict or describe us. Weird, but not supernatural. Just clever. :)
Real programmers use butterflies
Hmmm, Sounds like you are describing something like the seven basic plots[^]. My previous post at the top of this thread fits a variant of Voyage and Return: The protagonist discovers something strange and, after overcoming the problem, returns with experience.
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Hmmm, Sounds like you are describing something like the seven basic plots[^]. My previous post at the top of this thread fits a variant of Voyage and Return: The protagonist discovers something strange and, after overcoming the problem, returns with experience.
I mean, that's an element of it, as they are essentially folk tales. But what they convey is the fascinating. The actual story arcs themselves are useful, as they predict/describe behavior - but the real meat is in its use of allegory to enable humans to engage in higher level pattern matching. It's a manual in part, to show you how to do that, and it's also full of existing patterns, that sometimes become a sort composition. It takes study and reflection to do it. It's very very deep and layered. The talmudic commentary on verse can be very helpful to unravel some of what these stories tell the reader.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Egyptology and computer science have nothing to do with each other. So I was extremely surprised back in December 2018 when I was trying get error correction working in 24 dimensional space based off the recent discovery of Maryna Viazovska[^]. I took a break from coding and watched one of those crackpot Egyptology ancient alien youtube videos for entertainment and noticed something I've never noticed before. Apparently the Egyptian royal cubit was 523.5mm in length. This ratio happens to be the inverse of the solution to the Kepler conjecture[^]. It's an extremely big coincidence that this number would just pop out. Right? I spent the next few weeks trying to figure out how the ancient Egyptians would have known about this sphere packing ratio. Mathematicians will say very abstract things such as PI/6 = 0.5235. But in the natural world these packing ratios known as atomic packing factors[^] are how atoms are arranged. Atoms arrange themselves in the HCP, BCC, FCC and SC physical structures[^]. A ratio of 0.5235 is a simple cubic unit cell. The only natural element on the Earth that uses the simple cubic structure is polonium[^]. But what does it all mean? I've got to admit that this
Yes, that number arising is pure coincidence and I find it rather nonsensical to make anything of it. The thing is you are mixing a ratio and an absolute measure and when the units of meters are used the number is interesting. For a civilization that uses feet and inches there would be no significance what so ever. They will find the cubit to be 20.6 inches and think, "oh, what ever. That seems rather random." The Egyptians didn't have the metric system so how would that number of meters been of any significance?
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Yes, that number arising is pure coincidence and I find it rather nonsensical to make anything of it. The thing is you are mixing a ratio and an absolute measure and when the units of meters are used the number is interesting. For a civilization that uses feet and inches there would be no significance what so ever. They will find the cubit to be 20.6 inches and think, "oh, what ever. That seems rather random." The Egyptians didn't have the metric system so how would that number of meters been of any significance?
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
Rick York wrote:
Yes, that number arising is pure coincidence
Well, actually it's not really coincidence that the ratio of the Egyptian cubit is 0.52 of a meter. However there is nothing mysterious or special about it. I am not sure I conveyed what I am talking about in a clear way. Here is an absolute fact: If I gave you only a rope and a rock and asked you to divide the day using only those materials into 24 hours, 1440 minutes and 86400 seconds. When you completed the task your rope would be approximately 1 meter long. The arc of your pendulum would cover ~0.52 of the meter when swinging. That's all, nothing mysterious.
