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  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

    The Y10K Problem | MDN[^]:

    Why worry about the Y10K problem if it is going to happen many centuries after your death? Exactly because you will already be dead, so the companies using your software will be stuck using your software without any other coder who knows the system well enough to come in and fix it.

    :wtf: If humanity survives the next 7978 years, is still using something we would recognise as computers, is still running software created today, and hasn't either developed advanced AI capable of fixing this sort of problem, or trained enough people to fix it, then something has gone very wrong. :laugh:


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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    Daniel Pfeffer
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    My software is written so well that people (or our lizard overlords...) will still be using it ~8000 years from now. :laugh:

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    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

      The Y10K Problem | MDN[^]:

      Why worry about the Y10K problem if it is going to happen many centuries after your death? Exactly because you will already be dead, so the companies using your software will be stuck using your software without any other coder who knows the system well enough to come in and fix it.

      :wtf: If humanity survives the next 7978 years, is still using something we would recognise as computers, is still running software created today, and hasn't either developed advanced AI capable of fixing this sort of problem, or trained enough people to fix it, then something has gone very wrong. :laugh:


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      "The future's uncertain and the end is always near." -- Jim Morrison (December 8, 1943 – July 3, 1971)

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        The Y10K Problem | MDN[^]:

        Why worry about the Y10K problem if it is going to happen many centuries after your death? Exactly because you will already be dead, so the companies using your software will be stuck using your software without any other coder who knows the system well enough to come in and fix it.

        :wtf: If humanity survives the next 7978 years, is still using something we would recognise as computers, is still running software created today, and hasn't either developed advanced AI capable of fixing this sort of problem, or trained enough people to fix it, then something has gone very wrong. :laugh:


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        In 1998, a programmer who had been working on Y2K fixes started to get anxious because he couldn't believe how pervasive the problem was. He switched from company to company trying to get away from it, but everywhere he went he became regarded as the Y2K expert and immediately became the team lead for that company's Y2K contingencies. He finally had a nervous breakdown, quit his job, and decided he wanted to be knocked unconscious when the Y2K actually came about. A month before Y2K he was put into an artificial coma and cooled down to a near cryogenic easily sustained long term life support. Unfortunately the life support notification system had a Y2K bug, and no one revived him for 8000 years. Finally he was found and revived. He woke up, and saw himself surrounded by lots of glass, light, stainless steel, and tall beautiful people in white robes. He asked if he was in Heaven. They replied, "No, this is Chicago. Actually but it's a lot like Heaven to someone like you." "Someone like me?" "You are from the 20th century. Many of the problems that existed in your lifetime have been solved for thousands of years. There is no hunger and no disease. There is no scarcity, or strife between races and creeds." "What year is it now?" "Yeah, about that - it's the year 9,998. You see, the year 10,000 is coming up, and we understand you know something called COBOL?"

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        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

          The Y10K Problem | MDN[^]:

          Why worry about the Y10K problem if it is going to happen many centuries after your death? Exactly because you will already be dead, so the companies using your software will be stuck using your software without any other coder who knows the system well enough to come in and fix it.

          :wtf: If humanity survives the next 7978 years, is still using something we would recognise as computers, is still running software created today, and hasn't either developed advanced AI capable of fixing this sort of problem, or trained enough people to fix it, then something has gone very wrong. :laugh:


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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          Only on earth; everyone else will be using the Julian Day.

          It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            In 1998, a programmer who had been working on Y2K fixes started to get anxious because he couldn't believe how pervasive the problem was. He switched from company to company trying to get away from it, but everywhere he went he became regarded as the Y2K expert and immediately became the team lead for that company's Y2K contingencies. He finally had a nervous breakdown, quit his job, and decided he wanted to be knocked unconscious when the Y2K actually came about. A month before Y2K he was put into an artificial coma and cooled down to a near cryogenic easily sustained long term life support. Unfortunately the life support notification system had a Y2K bug, and no one revived him for 8000 years. Finally he was found and revived. He woke up, and saw himself surrounded by lots of glass, light, stainless steel, and tall beautiful people in white robes. He asked if he was in Heaven. They replied, "No, this is Chicago. Actually but it's a lot like Heaven to someone like you." "Someone like me?" "You are from the 20th century. Many of the problems that existed in your lifetime have been solved for thousands of years. There is no hunger and no disease. There is no scarcity, or strife between races and creeds." "What year is it now?" "Yeah, about that - it's the year 9,998. You see, the year 10,000 is coming up, and we understand you know something called COBOL?"

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            You just redeemed yourself! :laugh:

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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              The Y10K Problem | MDN[^]:

              Why worry about the Y10K problem if it is going to happen many centuries after your death? Exactly because you will already be dead, so the companies using your software will be stuck using your software without any other coder who knows the system well enough to come in and fix it.

              :wtf: If humanity survives the next 7978 years, is still using something we would recognise as computers, is still running software created today, and hasn't either developed advanced AI capable of fixing this sort of problem, or trained enough people to fix it, then something has gone very wrong. :laugh:


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              GuyThiebaut
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              "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion - Oi who wrote this code?"

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                The Y10K Problem | MDN[^]:

                Why worry about the Y10K problem if it is going to happen many centuries after your death? Exactly because you will already be dead, so the companies using your software will be stuck using your software without any other coder who knows the system well enough to come in and fix it.

                :wtf: If humanity survives the next 7978 years, is still using something we would recognise as computers, is still running software created today, and hasn't either developed advanced AI capable of fixing this sort of problem, or trained enough people to fix it, then something has gone very wrong. :laugh:


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                Michel Godfroid
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                AH, this came up earlier :-) I'm much of a lurker now not much of a contributor, but let me point you to this post from ages ago: The Lounge[^] There's also the (probable) original of the Y10K joke: The Lounge[^] (Thanks VinceThePrince - Professional Profile[^]

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                • M Michel Godfroid

                  AH, this came up earlier :-) I'm much of a lurker now not much of a contributor, but let me point you to this post from ages ago: The Lounge[^] There's also the (probable) original of the Y10K joke: The Lounge[^] (Thanks VinceThePrince - Professional Profile[^]

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                  Richard Deeming
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                  I'm surprised nobody pointed out the double-negative:

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                  it was unlikely that his programs ... were unlikely to be around in the year 9999

                  :laugh:


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    In 1998, a programmer who had been working on Y2K fixes started to get anxious because he couldn't believe how pervasive the problem was. He switched from company to company trying to get away from it, but everywhere he went he became regarded as the Y2K expert and immediately became the team lead for that company's Y2K contingencies. He finally had a nervous breakdown, quit his job, and decided he wanted to be knocked unconscious when the Y2K actually came about. A month before Y2K he was put into an artificial coma and cooled down to a near cryogenic easily sustained long term life support. Unfortunately the life support notification system had a Y2K bug, and no one revived him for 8000 years. Finally he was found and revived. He woke up, and saw himself surrounded by lots of glass, light, stainless steel, and tall beautiful people in white robes. He asked if he was in Heaven. They replied, "No, this is Chicago. Actually but it's a lot like Heaven to someone like you." "Someone like me?" "You are from the 20th century. Many of the problems that existed in your lifetime have been solved for thousands of years. There is no hunger and no disease. There is no scarcity, or strife between races and creeds." "What year is it now?" "Yeah, about that - it's the year 9,998. You see, the year 10,000 is coming up, and we understand you know something called COBOL?"

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    Awesome! :laugh:

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                      The Y10K Problem | MDN[^]:

                      Why worry about the Y10K problem if it is going to happen many centuries after your death? Exactly because you will already be dead, so the companies using your software will be stuck using your software without any other coder who knows the system well enough to come in and fix it.

                      :wtf: If humanity survives the next 7978 years, is still using something we would recognise as computers, is still running software created today, and hasn't either developed advanced AI capable of fixing this sort of problem, or trained enough people to fix it, then something has gone very wrong. :laugh:


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                      Burnie35
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                      Looking a bit into the past, a number of us old guys remember the "1970 problem". Prior to 1970, the year in most systems was stored as a single digit. This led to the same problem as Y2K ... but with a lot less publicity.

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        In 1998, a programmer who had been working on Y2K fixes started to get anxious because he couldn't believe how pervasive the problem was. He switched from company to company trying to get away from it, but everywhere he went he became regarded as the Y2K expert and immediately became the team lead for that company's Y2K contingencies. He finally had a nervous breakdown, quit his job, and decided he wanted to be knocked unconscious when the Y2K actually came about. A month before Y2K he was put into an artificial coma and cooled down to a near cryogenic easily sustained long term life support. Unfortunately the life support notification system had a Y2K bug, and no one revived him for 8000 years. Finally he was found and revived. He woke up, and saw himself surrounded by lots of glass, light, stainless steel, and tall beautiful people in white robes. He asked if he was in Heaven. They replied, "No, this is Chicago. Actually but it's a lot like Heaven to someone like you." "Someone like me?" "You are from the 20th century. Many of the problems that existed in your lifetime have been solved for thousands of years. There is no hunger and no disease. There is no scarcity, or strife between races and creeds." "What year is it now?" "Yeah, about that - it's the year 9,998. You see, the year 10,000 is coming up, and we understand you know something called COBOL?"

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                        Read my mind.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          In 1998, a programmer who had been working on Y2K fixes started to get anxious because he couldn't believe how pervasive the problem was. He switched from company to company trying to get away from it, but everywhere he went he became regarded as the Y2K expert and immediately became the team lead for that company's Y2K contingencies. He finally had a nervous breakdown, quit his job, and decided he wanted to be knocked unconscious when the Y2K actually came about. A month before Y2K he was put into an artificial coma and cooled down to a near cryogenic easily sustained long term life support. Unfortunately the life support notification system had a Y2K bug, and no one revived him for 8000 years. Finally he was found and revived. He woke up, and saw himself surrounded by lots of glass, light, stainless steel, and tall beautiful people in white robes. He asked if he was in Heaven. They replied, "No, this is Chicago. Actually but it's a lot like Heaven to someone like you." "Someone like me?" "You are from the 20th century. Many of the problems that existed in your lifetime have been solved for thousands of years. There is no hunger and no disease. There is no scarcity, or strife between races and creeds." "What year is it now?" "Yeah, about that - it's the year 9,998. You see, the year 10,000 is coming up, and we understand you know something called COBOL?"

                          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          "Yeah, about that - it's the year 9,998. You see, the year 10,000 is coming up, and we understand you know something called COBOL?"

                          You woke the wrong one, idjits! I do VB6!

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                            The Y10K Problem | MDN[^]:

                            Why worry about the Y10K problem if it is going to happen many centuries after your death? Exactly because you will already be dead, so the companies using your software will be stuck using your software without any other coder who knows the system well enough to come in and fix it.

                            :wtf: If humanity survives the next 7978 years, is still using something we would recognise as computers, is still running software created today, and hasn't either developed advanced AI capable of fixing this sort of problem, or trained enough people to fix it, then something has gone very wrong. :laugh:


                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                            The Y2k problem arised from us using 2 digits to store the year. A Y10k problem is imaginary.

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                              The Y2k problem arised from us using 2 digits to store the year. A Y10k problem is imaginary.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                              trønderen
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                              I'd think that a Yi10k problem would be imaginary.

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                                I'd think that a Yi10k problem would be imaginary.

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                                I'm afraid it won't. In that era, makind is served by obscure COBOL and VB6.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  The Y2k problem arised from us using 2 digits to store the year. A Y10k problem is imaginary.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                  GuyThiebaut
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                                  I can't remember it turning out to be a problem, that is I can't remember any stories of any businesses suffering from the issue other than one vague story regarding baked beans going out of date.

                                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                  • G GuyThiebaut

                                    "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion - Oi who wrote this code?"

                                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    Obligatory response[^]

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      In 1998, a programmer who had been working on Y2K fixes started to get anxious because he couldn't believe how pervasive the problem was. He switched from company to company trying to get away from it, but everywhere he went he became regarded as the Y2K expert and immediately became the team lead for that company's Y2K contingencies. He finally had a nervous breakdown, quit his job, and decided he wanted to be knocked unconscious when the Y2K actually came about. A month before Y2K he was put into an artificial coma and cooled down to a near cryogenic easily sustained long term life support. Unfortunately the life support notification system had a Y2K bug, and no one revived him for 8000 years. Finally he was found and revived. He woke up, and saw himself surrounded by lots of glass, light, stainless steel, and tall beautiful people in white robes. He asked if he was in Heaven. They replied, "No, this is Chicago. Actually but it's a lot like Heaven to someone like you." "Someone like me?" "You are from the 20th century. Many of the problems that existed in your lifetime have been solved for thousands of years. There is no hunger and no disease. There is no scarcity, or strife between races and creeds." "What year is it now?" "Yeah, about that - it's the year 9,998. You see, the year 10,000 is coming up, and we understand you know something called COBOL?"

                                      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                      I liked that. Thank you.

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