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A growing number of scientists are convinced the future influences the past

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Vice.com[^]:

    “Our instincts of time and causation are our deepest, strongest instincts that physicists and philosophers—and humans—are loath to give up,” said one scientist.

    Apparently a growing number of scientists have discovered psychedelics

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      Vice.com[^]:

      “Our instincts of time and causation are our deepest, strongest instincts that physicists and philosophers—and humans—are loath to give up,” said one scientist.

      Apparently a growing number of scientists have discovered psychedelics

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      It's good to know more researchers are starting to be interested in this (kind of) idea, which was explored in my Ph.D study 30 yrs ago and eventually formulated a quantum field theory[^] for it. I have shown that is logically inevitable if one want to unify quantum mechanics and relativity without hiding inconsistencies under the carpet ... But it can't be published :( The basic idea is quite simple: in quantum mechanics not all observables (operators) are commutable which implies the existence of "before" and "after" ordering of an operation, or a measure of delta time. Delta time is absolute in Newtonian mechanics, but is relative in relativity. Not only its value, but also its sign can be changed when it is space-like (meaning the spatial separation of two events is large enough), which means that the above mentioned ordering can change for different observers in different motion frames. That's where the said inconsistencies originated since quantum particles correlated with each other even if they are separated by space-like distances. This is the accepted interpretation of QM (collapsing of wave function when measured etc.) and seems to be verified by recent experiments (admitted that most of them are not designed to focus on the space-likeness of the correlations) ... Therefor one need some kind of retrocausality, at lease at microscopic level, and it lead me to the falsifiable theory mentioned above ...

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        It's good to know more researchers are starting to be interested in this (kind of) idea, which was explored in my Ph.D study 30 yrs ago and eventually formulated a quantum field theory[^] for it. I have shown that is logically inevitable if one want to unify quantum mechanics and relativity without hiding inconsistencies under the carpet ... But it can't be published :( The basic idea is quite simple: in quantum mechanics not all observables (operators) are commutable which implies the existence of "before" and "after" ordering of an operation, or a measure of delta time. Delta time is absolute in Newtonian mechanics, but is relative in relativity. Not only its value, but also its sign can be changed when it is space-like (meaning the spatial separation of two events is large enough), which means that the above mentioned ordering can change for different observers in different motion frames. That's where the said inconsistencies originated since quantum particles correlated with each other even if they are separated by space-like distances. This is the accepted interpretation of QM (collapsing of wave function when measured etc.) and seems to be verified by recent experiments (admitted that most of them are not designed to focus on the space-likeness of the correlations) ... Therefor one need some kind of retrocausality, at lease at microscopic level, and it lead me to the falsifiable theory mentioned above ...

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        Shuqian Ying wrote:

        quite simply

        quantum mechanics

        One of these things is not like the other ;) Thank you for this - I'm assuming that this is all happening at the quantum level, and not at any sort of atomic level or above?

        TTFN - Kent

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          Shuqian Ying wrote:

          quite simply

          quantum mechanics

          One of these things is not like the other ;) Thank you for this - I'm assuming that this is all happening at the quantum level, and not at any sort of atomic level or above?

          TTFN - Kent

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          Kent Sharkey wrote:

          Thank you for this - I'm assuming that this is all happening at the quantum level, and not at any sort of atomic level or above?

          Yes, it's at quantum level and formally at low energy as well, albeit relativistic effects manifest at high energy in classical world ...

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            Vice.com[^]:

            “Our instincts of time and causation are our deepest, strongest instincts that physicists and philosophers—and humans—are loath to give up,” said one scientist.

            Apparently a growing number of scientists have discovered psychedelics

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            This can only be true if the Laws of Thermodynamics are not what we think they are.

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              This can only be true if the Laws of Thermodynamics are not what we think they are.

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              Shuqian Ying
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              I belief most of these studies are about behaviors of single or few particles, namely they are at underlying microscopic level. Thermodynamics (specifically, the 2nd Law) will still emerge at macroscopic level. This is true at least in the theory I developed, which IS about Statistical Physics for relativistic quantum fields ...

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                Vice.com[^]:

                “Our instincts of time and causation are our deepest, strongest instincts that physicists and philosophers—and humans—are loath to give up,” said one scientist.

                Apparently a growing number of scientists have discovered psychedelics

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                You know magic mushrooms are found in bull shit, seems it's getting pretty deep.

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                  Vice.com[^]:

                  “Our instincts of time and causation are our deepest, strongest instincts that physicists and philosophers—and humans—are loath to give up,” said one scientist.

                  Apparently a growing number of scientists have discovered psychedelics

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                  JA Wheeler and RP Feynman wrote an article in 1945 analyzing why we do not detect electromagnetic waves propagating into the past. Their conclusion was that the early Universe was opaque, and the waves coming from the future generated a response that exactly cancelled them out. [Wheeler JA, Feynman RP. Interaction with the absorber as the mechanism of radiation Reviews of Modern Physics. 17: 157-181. DOI: 10.1103/Revmodphys.17.157]

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                    JA Wheeler and RP Feynman wrote an article in 1945 analyzing why we do not detect electromagnetic waves propagating into the past. Their conclusion was that the early Universe was opaque, and the waves coming from the future generated a response that exactly cancelled them out. [Wheeler JA, Feynman RP. Interaction with the absorber as the mechanism of radiation Reviews of Modern Physics. 17: 157-181. DOI: 10.1103/Revmodphys.17.157]

                    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                    Most of these ideas are already formally implemented in modern relativistic quantum field theories. But these are not enough to eliminate the inconsistencies found in finite density/temperature situations, especially for fermions, new infinities occur that is either not noticed or was simply dropped, which is a habit of the modern days, ... It depends on an understanding of time reversal and its symmetry in quantum mechanics. My contribution is a realization, in my Ph.D study and thesis, of the necessity of a distinction between the so called motion reversal and causal reversal for quantum particles ... These understanding was formally implemented in my theory that consistently eliminates the said infinities ... I know it's too technical to be discussed here, but ...

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