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  4. Windows 11 24H2 will enable BitLocker encryption for everyone — happens on both clean installs and reinstalls

Windows 11 24H2 will enable BitLocker encryption for everyone — happens on both clean installs and reinstalls

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Tom's Hardware[^]:

    Microsoft already enables BitLocker by default in Windows 11 23H2, but starting with Windows 11 24H2, Microsoft is apparently implementing a new setup process that automatically activates BitLocker encryption during reinstallation

    You will be encrypted

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      Tom's Hardware[^]:

      Microsoft already enables BitLocker by default in Windows 11 23H2, but starting with Windows 11 24H2, Microsoft is apparently implementing a new setup process that automatically activates BitLocker encryption during reinstallation

      You will be encrypted

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      This is an outrage. That means you won't be able to access your files from a different install of an OS. And even if you can turn it off for yourself, your relatives are out of luck if their OS ever fails to boot.

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        Tom's Hardware[^]:

        Microsoft already enables BitLocker by default in Windows 11 23H2, but starting with Windows 11 24H2, Microsoft is apparently implementing a new setup process that automatically activates BitLocker encryption during reinstallation

        You will be encrypted

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        I can see why one might want this for a mobile device or a laptop. I can see why enterprises would want this. Why would your average person want this on their home computer? The biggest risk for your average user's home computer is attacks via the internet, against which encryption helps not at all. Even if one has secrets (e.g. financial data) on one's computer, this is overkill. An encrypted directory would solve the problem without compromising performance or risking complete data loss if the password is forgotten.

        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          I can see why one might want this for a mobile device or a laptop. I can see why enterprises would want this. Why would your average person want this on their home computer? The biggest risk for your average user's home computer is attacks via the internet, against which encryption helps not at all. Even if one has secrets (e.g. financial data) on one's computer, this is overkill. An encrypted directory would solve the problem without compromising performance or risking complete data loss if the password is forgotten.

          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          Given the sheer number of laptops that are lost every year, there would be a lot less data theft if those laptops had been encrypted.

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            Given the sheer number of laptops that are lost every year, there would be a lot less data theft if those laptops had been encrypted.

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            I wrote that I understand the need for encryption for mobile devices or laptops. I don't understand why desktop PCs need it.

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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              I wrote that I understand the need for encryption for mobile devices or laptops. I don't understand why desktop PCs need it.

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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              This is my primary reason for leaving the pc support business after 30 years for good come July 1 2024 when the lease runs out at our shop. The remapping of user folders to onedrive when the users didn't know this had happened and don't know where there stuff ever was except "on my computer", now they come in with a os that is tangled up from a corruptdate and we can't get at their files because the sucker is bitlocked and I have to explain this to a user who thinks I'm crazy because they have never heard of such a thing be it onedrive or bitlocker. Thanks mickysoft, you stupid (or just mean) f$%cs. Long live windows 7 and windows 10 with WUAUSRV deleted. :thumbsup:

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                This is my primary reason for leaving the pc support business after 30 years for good come July 1 2024 when the lease runs out at our shop. The remapping of user folders to onedrive when the users didn't know this had happened and don't know where there stuff ever was except "on my computer", now they come in with a os that is tangled up from a corruptdate and we can't get at their files because the sucker is bitlocked and I have to explain this to a user who thinks I'm crazy because they have never heard of such a thing be it onedrive or bitlocker. Thanks mickysoft, you stupid (or just mean) f$%cs. Long live windows 7 and windows 10 with WUAUSRV deleted. :thumbsup:

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                Does anyone really know what they're up to or what they're end game may be? This seems like a lot of effort and pupose put into both one drive and bitlocking.

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                  I wrote that I understand the need for encryption for mobile devices or laptops. I don't understand why desktop PCs need it.

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  In 2001, Triwest Insurance offices in Phoenix, AZ were broken into. The physical servers were stolen. Six months later I detected a new account on my credit report and reported it as fraudulent. Had those servers been encrypted I suspect I wouldn't have been a potential victim of identity theft. Therefore, any system you can put in the back of a pickup truck should be encrypted.

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                    In 2001, Triwest Insurance offices in Phoenix, AZ were broken into. The physical servers were stolen. Six months later I detected a new account on my credit report and reported it as fraudulent. Had those servers been encrypted I suspect I wouldn't have been a potential victim of identity theft. Therefore, any system you can put in the back of a pickup truck should be encrypted.

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                    Daniel wrote:

                    I can see why one might want this for a mobile device or a laptop. I can see why enterprises would want this.

                    Stop trying to prove him wrong. Both things you have "explained" to be such important, were already covered in his message. For the average private John Doe's PC I agree with Daniel that is an overkill and will harm more than not. Read Ron's messages, as the Techie in the family, I can totally see coming, what he is explaining.

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      Daniel wrote:

                      I can see why one might want this for a mobile device or a laptop. I can see why enterprises would want this.

                      Stop trying to prove him wrong. Both things you have "explained" to be such important, were already covered in his message. For the average private John Doe's PC I agree with Daniel that is an overkill and will harm more than not. Read Ron's messages, as the Techie in the family, I can totally see coming, what he is explaining.

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      Sorry, but as long as physical theft occurs, even desktop computers are at risk. Most people would be flabbergasted at how much of their financial information is sitting in "unused" parts of their hard drives. Encryption at rest is the best defense for a stolen hard drive, whether it be stolen as part of a computer or snared via dumpster diving. Here's two links showing that encrypting all hard drives is critical. https://www.techradar.com/news/millions-of-deleted-files-recovered-in-hard-drives-purchased-online-finds-research https://insideevs.com/news/419525/tesla-data-leak-personal-info-ebay/

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