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At 50 years old, is SQL becoming a niche skill?

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    Kent Sharkey
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    zwischenzugs[^]:

    This post was originally triggered – and I choose that word carefully – by a recent experience on a cloud cost-optimisation project. These experiences prompted me to consider how things had changed since I started working in software.

    Coming up soon: "Is asking silly questions a niche skill?"

    I mean, I see the point he's trying to make, but Betteridge is certainly more correct here.

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      zwischenzugs[^]:

      This post was originally triggered – and I choose that word carefully – by a recent experience on a cloud cost-optimisation project. These experiences prompted me to consider how things had changed since I started working in software.

      Coming up soon: "Is asking silly questions a niche skill?"

      I mean, I see the point he's trying to make, but Betteridge is certainly more correct here.

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      jochance
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      It's definitely accurate that we've gravitated towards specialization. I know because I've resisted that pretty hard. The perspective that SQL is niche might just involve how specialized vs generalized things are for the one doing the perceiving. Somebody has to do it though, and at least for some scenarios it's almost definitely going to be someone who is more developer than DBA. Now it well may be a DBA (in title), the point is that some things require such an intimate knowledge of not only the data/table structure, but also how the clients interact with it.

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        zwischenzugs[^]:

        This post was originally triggered – and I choose that word carefully – by a recent experience on a cloud cost-optimisation project. These experiences prompted me to consider how things had changed since I started working in software.

        Coming up soon: "Is asking silly questions a niche skill?"

        I mean, I see the point he's trying to make, but Betteridge is certainly more correct here.

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        Nelek
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        Kent Sharkey wrote:

        "Is asking silly questions a niche skill?"

        No way... Have you seen the Q&A? That's not niche, that's mainstream :doh: :sigh:

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          zwischenzugs[^]:

          This post was originally triggered – and I choose that word carefully – by a recent experience on a cloud cost-optimisation project. These experiences prompted me to consider how things had changed since I started working in software.

          Coming up soon: "Is asking silly questions a niche skill?"

          I mean, I see the point he's trying to make, but Betteridge is certainly more correct here.

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          Its a basic skill any tom dick and harry should have these days...or from long back...

          Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

          We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. - Greta Thunberg

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            Its a basic skill any tom dick and harry should have these days...or from long back...

            Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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            I would like to join in on that. But then: Geek&Poke: SQL[^] I never understood why SQL was developed, and then everything froze to ice (with regard to database languages). For solving other kinds of tasks, we have a handful of new languages and concepts and frameworks every year, and several widespread languages come in 'revisions' with no resemblance to previous versions (there is no reason to mention Fortran in this context). But SQL is sacred, untouchable, and should never be challenged, only embraced (e.g. LINQ). Elementary database handling certainly is a basic skill. But I feel ashamed telling students that in 50 years, the best tool we have come up for solving database tasks is SQL. It does not make me proud of my profession's achievements.

            Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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              I would like to join in on that. But then: Geek&Poke: SQL[^] I never understood why SQL was developed, and then everything froze to ice (with regard to database languages). For solving other kinds of tasks, we have a handful of new languages and concepts and frameworks every year, and several widespread languages come in 'revisions' with no resemblance to previous versions (there is no reason to mention Fortran in this context). But SQL is sacred, untouchable, and should never be challenged, only embraced (e.g. LINQ). Elementary database handling certainly is a basic skill. But I feel ashamed telling students that in 50 years, the best tool we have come up for solving database tasks is SQL. It does not make me proud of my profession's achievements.

              Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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              with the advent of the role of data analyst , data scientist ..considering if you need humans to do this they need some way to come out with clean data.now if you train ai to do this work..and cover most use cases and teach it sql .... the new way is [Conversational Finance Demo - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqVD\_RElFnw&t=179s)

              Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

              We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. - Greta Thunberg

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