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    Kent Sharkey
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    Engineering Ideas[^]:

    I argue that we, human software engineers should replace ourselves with AI software engineers as soon as possible and as fully as possible.

    Are all opinions worth sharing?

    Discuss, Mr. Betteridge

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    • K Kent Sharkey

      Engineering Ideas[^]:

      I argue that we, human software engineers should replace ourselves with AI software engineers as soon as possible and as fully as possible.

      Are all opinions worth sharing?

      Discuss, Mr. Betteridge

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      MarkTJohnson
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      No, we should replace the marketing people who have the ideas that when implemented make software more complicated (which is this guy's main complaint).

      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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      • K Kent Sharkey

        Engineering Ideas[^]:

        I argue that we, human software engineers should replace ourselves with AI software engineers as soon as possible and as fully as possible.

        Are all opinions worth sharing?

        Discuss, Mr. Betteridge

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        jochance
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        "Software engineers often gravitate" We do what? Huh? Oh and you think databases are useless complication? Yeah... uh ain't nobody got time to read that. Made it that far though. If you open your mind far enough, your brains run down to the floor.

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          No, we should replace the marketing people who have the ideas that when implemented make software more complicated (which is this guy's main complaint).

          I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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          Nelek
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          MarkTJohnson wrote:

          we should replace the marketing people

          or the managers that get in loved with the buzzword bullsh1t bingo and force it down the command chain

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            Engineering Ideas[^]:

            I argue that we, human software engineers should replace ourselves with AI software engineers as soon as possible and as fully as possible.

            Are all opinions worth sharing?

            Discuss, Mr. Betteridge

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            Greg Utas
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            It's hard to know where to start with this drivel. And that's putting it politely.

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            However, this over-bloated financial industry still fails to protect the economy from major crises, such as the Great Recession of 2007-2008.

            The financial industry is bloated and suffers from crises because it knows that politicians and central bankers will bail it out. Both are abominations: capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without Hell.

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            Nathan Marz of Red Planet Labs suggests radically simplifying the development of scalable web apps (by 100x in terms of software engineering effort...

            Anyone who claims they can reduce software effort by 100x merits little but derisive laughter, if not a rubber room, at this point. So does anyone quoting them.

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            Software engineers act as bureaucrats who hold to their power by retaining the headcount.

            Software engineers have little power in this regard. Most managers don't even want to "waste" resources on architecture or refactoring.

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            This is how banks have established and grown their compliance departments

            Compliance departments have grown because of increased regulations, a lot of it related to KYC (Know Your Customer). The author opines on the financial and software industries, yet is fairly ignorant of both.

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            Alas, bloated, inefficient, unreliable, wicked software will be written by human software engineers to increase their job security.

            Alas, most of this is due to management allocating insufficient resources to architecture and refactoring. To be fair, the article gets better for a time at this point.

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            The users and other stakeholders of software products should also govern its complexity

            The concept of stakeholders, other than shareholders, is one of the more imbecilic concepts to gain a foothold in recent years. Management's fiduciary responsibility to shareholders means that they need to create a work environment that rewards the minimization of complexity. Getting them to do this is the challenge.

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            Thus, for the benefit of the stakeholders of these companies, they should shred human software engineers as quickly as p

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              It's hard to know where to start with this drivel. And that's putting it politely.

              Quote:

              However, this over-bloated financial industry still fails to protect the economy from major crises, such as the Great Recession of 2007-2008.

              The financial industry is bloated and suffers from crises because it knows that politicians and central bankers will bail it out. Both are abominations: capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without Hell.

              Quote:

              Nathan Marz of Red Planet Labs suggests radically simplifying the development of scalable web apps (by 100x in terms of software engineering effort...

              Anyone who claims they can reduce software effort by 100x merits little but derisive laughter, if not a rubber room, at this point. So does anyone quoting them.

              Quote:

              Software engineers act as bureaucrats who hold to their power by retaining the headcount.

              Software engineers have little power in this regard. Most managers don't even want to "waste" resources on architecture or refactoring.

              Quote:

              This is how banks have established and grown their compliance departments

              Compliance departments have grown because of increased regulations, a lot of it related to KYC (Know Your Customer). The author opines on the financial and software industries, yet is fairly ignorant of both.

              Quote:

              Alas, bloated, inefficient, unreliable, wicked software will be written by human software engineers to increase their job security.

              Alas, most of this is due to management allocating insufficient resources to architecture and refactoring. To be fair, the article gets better for a time at this point.

              Quote:

              The users and other stakeholders of software products should also govern its complexity

              The concept of stakeholders, other than shareholders, is one of the more imbecilic concepts to gain a foothold in recent years. Management's fiduciary responsibility to shareholders means that they need to create a work environment that rewards the minimization of complexity. Getting them to do this is the challenge.

              Quote:

              Thus, for the benefit of the stakeholders of these companies, they should shred human software engineers as quickly as p

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              David ONeil
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              Greg Utas wrote:

              Google is another example where a lot of similar roles could be axed.

              If they did that, how would they ever come up with the idea to put more ads in videos, and on the web? :confused:

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              • K Kent Sharkey

                Engineering Ideas[^]:

                I argue that we, human software engineers should replace ourselves with AI software engineers as soon as possible and as fully as possible.

                Are all opinions worth sharing?

                Discuss, Mr. Betteridge

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                obermd
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                The author is an idiot. He says we (software engineers) create overly complex systems and then goes on to imply we need to be regulated. Regulation guarantees complexity.

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