Black list?
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Is there somewhere a 'black list' with words we're not allowed to use? Because it looks like every single message I post is marked as 'potential spam' and goes 'under review'! Really?!
No. Instead, for users who haven't been here a long time, or who haven't posted a lot of messages, all new messages pass through a system that evaluates the probability that it might be spam. If the system thinks it could be spam, the message goes into a moderation queue for a human to review. There's no pre-defined set of rules to determine what does and does not get caught. And even if there were, they wouldn't be published, since that would be a handy guide for spammers trying to get their spam past the filter. :) It can be annoying for new users, but it beats the pre-filter days, where the forums were regularly flooded with thousands of messages from automated spam-bots.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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No. Instead, for users who haven't been here a long time, or who haven't posted a lot of messages, all new messages pass through a system that evaluates the probability that it might be spam. If the system thinks it could be spam, the message goes into a moderation queue for a human to review. There's no pre-defined set of rules to determine what does and does not get caught. And even if there were, they wouldn't be published, since that would be a handy guide for spammers trying to get their spam past the filter. :) It can be annoying for new users, but it beats the pre-filter days, where the forums were regularly flooded with thousands of messages from automated spam-bots.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Thanks Richard! I've been on this forum for almost 10 years, so not quite new, IMHO. Mostly a watcher - only 24 comments, wich qualifies me as a 'Lurker' :laugh: In my experience, the spammers live a short life on most forums: they (automatically) create a new identity - usually random names [+numbers] - post their garbage and then they're gone. Not hard to detect! None of them live, under the same identity, for several years on a forum. A content analyzer wouldn't also be very hard to implement, these days. Even without using AI. Anyways, this is the way we have to live now... I would sanction individuals who engage in any kind of internet illegal activities in a much more drastic way than what we have in place today... Many years of imprisonment? Death penalty? Too harsh? Why? What do we have to lose?! A concerned non-spammer.
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Thanks Richard! I've been on this forum for almost 10 years, so not quite new, IMHO. Mostly a watcher - only 24 comments, wich qualifies me as a 'Lurker' :laugh: In my experience, the spammers live a short life on most forums: they (automatically) create a new identity - usually random names [+numbers] - post their garbage and then they're gone. Not hard to detect! None of them live, under the same identity, for several years on a forum. A content analyzer wouldn't also be very hard to implement, these days. Even without using AI. Anyways, this is the way we have to live now... I would sanction individuals who engage in any kind of internet illegal activities in a much more drastic way than what we have in place today... Many years of imprisonment? Death penalty? Too harsh? Why? What do we have to lose?! A concerned non-spammer.
Luschan wrote:
None of them live, under the same identity, for several years on a forum.
You'd be surprised. Whilst most spammers are relatively new accounts, sometimes we get spam from accounts that have been dormant for many years. I couldn't comment on how easy a content analyzer would be to implement. IIRC, the current system uses some form of Bayesian filter to compare the properties of new messages to messages which have previously been reported as spam. Which is probably very similar to what an "AI" solution would do. :)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Luschan wrote:
None of them live, under the same identity, for several years on a forum.
You'd be surprised. Whilst most spammers are relatively new accounts, sometimes we get spam from accounts that have been dormant for many years. I couldn't comment on how easy a content analyzer would be to implement. IIRC, the current system uses some form of Bayesian filter to compare the properties of new messages to messages which have previously been reported as spam. Which is probably very similar to what an "AI" solution would do. :)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Is there somewhere a 'black list' with words we're not allowed to use? Because it looks like every single message I post is marked as 'potential spam' and goes 'under review'! Really?!
When you get a couple of "this is OK" from users that can see the moderation list, the system will learn and give you more room. Just be a bit patient.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Thanks Richard! I've been on this forum for almost 10 years, so not quite new, IMHO. Mostly a watcher - only 24 comments, wich qualifies me as a 'Lurker' :laugh: In my experience, the spammers live a short life on most forums: they (automatically) create a new identity - usually random names [+numbers] - post their garbage and then they're gone. Not hard to detect! None of them live, under the same identity, for several years on a forum. A content analyzer wouldn't also be very hard to implement, these days. Even without using AI. Anyways, this is the way we have to live now... I would sanction individuals who engage in any kind of internet illegal activities in a much more drastic way than what we have in place today... Many years of imprisonment? Death penalty? Too harsh? Why? What do we have to lose?! A concerned non-spammer.
To add to what Richard has said, sometimes spammers just keep on coming back and back: We have one guy who has been trying to rent out a photo booth he bought for nearly a decade!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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To add to what Richard has said, sometimes spammers just keep on coming back and back: We have one guy who has been trying to rent out a photo booth he bought for nearly a decade!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Mental diseases can manifest themselves in many forms! Like I said I'd just eliminate such specimens from society... unfortunately, easier said than done! But paranoia is also one of them! In this case however, it's called compromise. ;P Or a necessary evil... :(
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Mental diseases can manifest themselves in many forms! Like I said I'd just eliminate such specimens from society... unfortunately, easier said than done! But paranoia is also one of them! In this case however, it's called compromise. ;P Or a necessary evil... :(
Luschan wrote:
Like I said I'd just eliminate such specimens from society...
Not to forget scammers, ransomwarers, lawyers, politicians...
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
