Linux not as safe as it used to be
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[Thousands of Linux systems infected by stealthy malware since 2021](https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/10/persistent-stealthy-linux-malware-has-infected-thousands-since-2021/)
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[Thousands of Linux systems infected by stealthy malware since 2021](https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/10/persistent-stealthy-linux-malware-has-infected-thousands-since-2021/)
Looks like all those eyes need glasses or a big :java::java::java:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Looks like all those eyes need glasses or a big :java::java::java:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
The claim that Linux (and all FOSS software) is more secure because anyone can look at the code and check for security issues begs the questions: does anyone ever actually check it for security issues, and is anyone with the skills and knowledge to recognize such issues checking it?
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
- Thomas SowellA day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes) -
The claim that Linux (and all FOSS software) is more secure because anyone can look at the code and check for security issues begs the questions: does anyone ever actually check it for security issues, and is anyone with the skills and knowledge to recognize such issues checking it?
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
- Thomas SowellA day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)TNCaver wrote:
does anyone ever actually check it for security issues, and is anyone with the skills and knowledge to recognize such issues checking it?
That exactly is the point... in my opnion, yes it is an advantage, but that only from time to time is used. I think not many people take the time to deep dive in every change, but luckily, there is people that do it when something rings a bell
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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The claim that Linux (and all FOSS software) is more secure because anyone can look at the code and check for security issues begs the questions: does anyone ever actually check it for security issues, and is anyone with the skills and knowledge to recognize such issues checking it?
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
- Thomas SowellA day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes) -
The claim that Linux (and all FOSS software) is more secure because anyone can look at the code and check for security issues begs the questions: does anyone ever actually check it for security issues, and is anyone with the skills and knowledge to recognize such issues checking it?
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
- Thomas SowellA day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes) -
[Thousands of Linux systems infected by stealthy malware since 2021](https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/10/persistent-stealthy-linux-malware-has-infected-thousands-since-2021/)
;) I didn't know that there were thousands of Linux systems.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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For the sake of argument let's say "No. Nobody with the skills or knowledge to recognize security issues is looking at Linux or FOSS software. What exactly does that say about Windows (and Windows apps) which are consistently found to be less secure?
I'd say that your whataboutism compares apples to oranges as far as the two OS's, and not true for the apps. The monetary motivation for hacking Linux is statistically irrelevant compared to that of Windows.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
- Thomas SowellA day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes) -
I'd say that your whataboutism compares apples to oranges as far as the two OS's, and not true for the apps. The monetary motivation for hacking Linux is statistically irrelevant compared to that of Windows.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
- Thomas SowellA day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)TNCaver wrote:
I'd say that your whataboutism compares apples to oranges as far as the two OS's, and not true for the apps.
Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that Windows apps are more or less secure than the OS???
TNCaver wrote:
The monetary motivation for hacking Linux is statistically irrelevant compared to that of Windows.
Ummm... no. You must only be thinking about desktop PCs (which was relevant in the 80s and 90s) but not so today. When you consider servers, cloud systems, mobile devices, embedded devices, super computers, etc... the percentages and "monetary motivations" are completely flipped.
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TNCaver wrote:
I'd say that your whataboutism compares apples to oranges as far as the two OS's, and not true for the apps.
Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that Windows apps are more or less secure than the OS???
TNCaver wrote:
The monetary motivation for hacking Linux is statistically irrelevant compared to that of Windows.
Ummm... no. You must only be thinking about desktop PCs (which was relevant in the 80s and 90s) but not so today. When you consider servers, cloud systems, mobile devices, embedded devices, super computers, etc... the percentages and "monetary motivations" are completely flipped.
fgs1963 wrote:
Are you suggesting that Windows apps are more or less secure than the OS
No, I'm suggesting that apart from where an app depends on the OS for security there is little difference between Windows apps and FOSS apps and how secure they are.
fgs1963 wrote:
...servers, cloud systems, mobile devices, embedded devices, super computers, etc... the percentages and "monetary motivations" are completely flipped
And the instances of successful hacking attempts increased to match. The security of both OS's and their apps do not depend 100% on the code behind them; both are subject to phishing and other types of hacks. And the perceived security of Linux against malware is probably why the malware reported in the article remained hidden for so long.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
- Thomas SowellA day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes) -
TNCaver wrote:
I'd say that your whataboutism compares apples to oranges as far as the two OS's, and not true for the apps.
Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that Windows apps are more or less secure than the OS???
TNCaver wrote:
The monetary motivation for hacking Linux is statistically irrelevant compared to that of Windows.
Ummm... no. You must only be thinking about desktop PCs (which was relevant in the 80s and 90s) but not so today. When you consider servers, cloud systems, mobile devices, embedded devices, super computers, etc... the percentages and "monetary motivations" are completely flipped.
A large part of malicious activities is focused on building botnets, so Windows (and Android and iOS) is still the most valuable target. Botnets provide deniability and access points for more serious attacks. Most of the attacks on servers target the service architecture rather than the OS itself as the importants bits are the data the services hold. That kind of code is often platform independent.
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[Thousands of Linux systems infected by stealthy malware since 2021](https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/10/persistent-stealthy-linux-malware-has-infected-thousands-since-2021/)
