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    I think this was posted here a while back, but is worth a repost based on recent binary yes/no moral/immoral questions. clickety[^] Debbie

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    Terry ONolley
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    I got through about 3 or 4 questions then I "got" the quiz. I could see what they were getting at and it bugs me that the people who made up the quiz think they are being tricky. First they ask you if scale matters, if distance matters, etc and then they start sneaking in questions designed to see if you were lying or not when answered the first questions! Also, I answered "not morally obliged" to almost every question. Even though I would help many of the people in the examples. If I felt "morally obliged" to help out then I would be a self-hating, hypocritical, walking nut case. Because I simply don't have enough hours in the day to do all of those altruistic things in the questions. Anyone who answered most of those questions with the "moral highground" answers are either lying, Mother Theresa, or walking around feeling very, very guilty.



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      I think this was posted here a while back, but is worth a repost based on recent binary yes/no moral/immoral questions. clickety[^] Debbie

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      In fact, your score of 59% is slightly lower than the average score of 66%. This suggests that you have utilised a somewhat wider range of moral principles than average in order to make judgements about the scenarios presented in this test, and that you have, at least on occasion, judged aspects of the acts and circumstances depicted here to be morally relevant that other people consider to be morally irrelevant. yes, I think it is more logical to analyze and make a judgement that is more suited according to the specifics of the circumstances.(less parsimonious) Later,
      JoeSox
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        ....which is more or less accurate since I believe that nothing's in black and white. :cool: Nick Seng (the programmer formerly known as Notorious SMC)


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        Nick Seng wrote: which is more or less accurate since I believe that nothing's in black and white. same here, well said. I think the more parsimonious, the more socialistic they are:laugh: Later,
        JoeSox
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          i couldn't take it, as i felt it was immoral of them to ask for my name and email address. -c CheeseWeasle

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          Chris Losinger wrote: i couldn't take it, as i felt it was immoral of them to ask for my name and email address. :~ they didn't ask me for my email:suss::-D Later,
          JoeSox
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            i couldn't take it, as i felt it was immoral of them to ask for my name and email address. -c CheeseWeasle

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            You only had to fill that in if you wanted a newsletter, not to do the quiz. I didn't provide mine. Debbie

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              I got through about 3 or 4 questions then I "got" the quiz. I could see what they were getting at and it bugs me that the people who made up the quiz think they are being tricky. First they ask you if scale matters, if distance matters, etc and then they start sneaking in questions designed to see if you were lying or not when answered the first questions! Also, I answered "not morally obliged" to almost every question. Even though I would help many of the people in the examples. If I felt "morally obliged" to help out then I would be a self-hating, hypocritical, walking nut case. Because I simply don't have enough hours in the day to do all of those altruistic things in the questions. Anyone who answered most of those questions with the "moral highground" answers are either lying, Mother Theresa, or walking around feeling very, very guilty.



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              Terry O`Nolley wrote: Anyone who answered most of those questions with the "moral highground" answers are either lying, Mother Theresa, or walking around feeling very, very guilty. Or maybe they read the instructions at the beginning where it said: "You should respond with what you think is the morally right thing to do, which may not be the same as what you would actually do. " Debbie

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                I got through about 3 or 4 questions then I "got" the quiz. I could see what they were getting at and it bugs me that the people who made up the quiz think they are being tricky. First they ask you if scale matters, if distance matters, etc and then they start sneaking in questions designed to see if you were lying or not when answered the first questions! Also, I answered "not morally obliged" to almost every question. Even though I would help many of the people in the examples. If I felt "morally obliged" to help out then I would be a self-hating, hypocritical, walking nut case. Because I simply don't have enough hours in the day to do all of those altruistic things in the questions. Anyone who answered most of those questions with the "moral highground" answers are either lying, Mother Theresa, or walking around feeling very, very guilty.



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                I may be walking around feeling very, very guilty, but i did NOT take that quiz!

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                  Nick Seng wrote: which is more or less accurate since I believe that nothing's in black and white. same here, well said. I think the more parsimonious, the more socialistic they are:laugh: Later,
                  JoeSox
                  www.humanaiproject.org "The worst fad has been these stupid little robots, Graduate students are wasting 3 years of their lives soldering and repairing robots, instead of making them smart. It's really shocking." -Marvin Minsky.

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                  shhhh.....most of the girls scored relatively high. And you know what happens when they get together! :~ Nick Seng (the programmer formerly known as Notorious SMC)


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                    I think this was posted here a while back, but is worth a repost based on recent binary yes/no moral/immoral questions. clickety[^] Debbie

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                    The problem I found with the questions is that I think there is a difference between what I would do and what I think I am morally obligated to do. In most cases I feel no obligation to help. But I may help none the less. Wonder if I am making any sense.... :-)

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                      The problem I found with the questions is that I think there is a difference between what I would do and what I think I am morally obligated to do. In most cases I feel no obligation to help. But I may help none the less. Wonder if I am making any sense.... :-)

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                      That was me :-) Didn't realize that I was not logged on.

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                        I think this was posted here a while back, but is worth a repost based on recent binary yes/no moral/immoral questions. clickety[^] Debbie

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                        The thing with this is its fairly easy to answer "correctly". Also, the questions are too vague to make real judgements. Like harming someone to help others. What type of help are we talking about? a larger salary? Also, I may answer that I feel strongly obliged to do something, but not really do it. I may feel strongly that it is my obligation to help someone, but for whatever reason I don't follow throughtwith it, and just deal with the guilt. just thoughts. BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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                        • T Terry ONolley

                          I got through about 3 or 4 questions then I "got" the quiz. I could see what they were getting at and it bugs me that the people who made up the quiz think they are being tricky. First they ask you if scale matters, if distance matters, etc and then they start sneaking in questions designed to see if you were lying or not when answered the first questions! Also, I answered "not morally obliged" to almost every question. Even though I would help many of the people in the examples. If I felt "morally obliged" to help out then I would be a self-hating, hypocritical, walking nut case. Because I simply don't have enough hours in the day to do all of those altruistic things in the questions. Anyone who answered most of those questions with the "moral highground" answers are either lying, Mother Theresa, or walking around feeling very, very guilty.



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                          Terry O`Nolley wrote: then they start sneaking in questions designed to see if you were lying or not when answered the first questions! Note a lot of quizzes designed by people in HR departments do this, Especially the new ones designed to run on a PC where you can't look back at the answers. My advice to anyone is that they learn to remember how they answered previously. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                            Terry O`Nolley wrote: Anyone who answered most of those questions with the "moral highground" answers are either lying, Mother Theresa, or walking around feeling very, very guilty. Or maybe they read the instructions at the beginning where it said: "You should respond with what you think is the morally right thing to do, which may not be the same as what you would actually do. " Debbie

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                            Exactly - if you thought all of those were moral, but didn't incorporate that behaviour into your daily life then you are probably a guilt-ridden basket case. If I truly think something is moral - I act on it. I am not a hypocrite. There is no excuse for thinking something is morally correct, but acting in a different way.



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                              Exactly - if you thought all of those were moral, but didn't incorporate that behaviour into your daily life then you are probably a guilt-ridden basket case. If I truly think something is moral - I act on it. I am not a hypocrite. There is no excuse for thinking something is morally correct, but acting in a different way.



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                              Terry O`Nolley wrote: There is no excuse for thinking something is morally correct, but acting in a different way. It depends on what you define as "morally correct": my answers happened to tie in (pretty much) with what the people who were setting the questions perceived to be so. I can quite happily accept, like Megan, that, say, if my family ties were involved, my actions would not be so clear cut as the "moral" route might dictate. That doesn't make me a hypocrite, not by my definition of the word anyway. I can sleep at night. Debbie

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                                Terry O`Nolley wrote: There is no excuse for thinking something is morally correct, but acting in a different way. It depends on what you define as "morally correct": my answers happened to tie in (pretty much) with what the people who were setting the questions perceived to be so. I can quite happily accept, like Megan, that, say, if my family ties were involved, my actions would not be so clear cut as the "moral" route might dictate. That doesn't make me a hypocrite, not by my definition of the word anyway. I can sleep at night. Debbie

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                                Listen - I think that you are misunderstanding my opinion. I am saying that it is OK for you to answer however you want. I have never specified how anyone should or should not answer. It is up to them to define their own morals. But, if you answer a question according to what you think is moral, but don't incorporate those morals into your everyday life then you are probably guilt-ridden. If you didn't feel guilty for doing something you feel to be morally wrong then you have just entered paradox land. So, I feel sorry for anyone who answered questions in a way that didn't jibe with how they live everyday life. For example - if you answered that it was a moral obligation to provide for some needy orphanage in Bangledesh but don't donate every extra dime you have to Bangledeshi orphanages then you are (as I have said multiple times now) a liar (you lied on your answer and don't really think it is a moral obligation), a guilt ridden basket case (you truly believe you are morally obligated but would rather spend your money on purchasing luxuries like new car payments, vacation homes, plasma TV sets, etc. and feel bad about it) or a hypocrite (you believe it is a moral obligation but you don't do it and you don't feel bad about it).



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