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    Davey Verhoef
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    Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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      Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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      Columbus, Ohio. No earthquakes, hurricans, floods, fires, etc. Cost of living is much lower than Calif, and has real weather (and snow). No beaches, tho. New Zealand looks wonderful, but has that nasty ozone hole..

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        Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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        Seattle of course! The work is fun and diverse. The traffic is much better than SF, LA, Atlanta and Chicago. IMHO. The salaries are excellent and highly competitive. Sign up to be a MS usability person and get software for free for only an hour or 2 of your time. Lots to do and see. The only downer is that housing can get expensive, but you can find inexpensive gems too. Now I know everyone (or almost everyone) thinks "but it rains an aweful lot there". Not so true, it doesn't rain here anymore than anywhere else. It just doesn't freeze as often so you don't get the snow collection and icey roads in the winter months, as you would east of the cascades and just west of them. Oooh and you can't forget the coffee shops every 2 blocks and the microbrews.

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          Columbus, Ohio. No earthquakes, hurricans, floods, fires, etc. Cost of living is much lower than Calif, and has real weather (and snow). No beaches, tho. New Zealand looks wonderful, but has that nasty ozone hole..

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          DON'T come to Columbus for another year or so! Wait for them to get the highway system put back together

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            Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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            If you're a single male...Dallas, Texas. Bar none. Granted it gets hot there, but sometimes sacrifices must be made.

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              Columbus, Ohio. No earthquakes, hurricans, floods, fires, etc. Cost of living is much lower than Calif, and has real weather (and snow). No beaches, tho. New Zealand looks wonderful, but has that nasty ozone hole..

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              Columbus is a great college town but once you get tired of the High street bar scene there isn't much else. Also the city planners have really let the sprawl get out of hand. I would take a close look at Boston or NYC if you like city life and culture (and don't mind sky high rents) or the research traingle area for cheap land and access to the ocean or the mountains

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                Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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                Wouldn't it be great to do some work at home instead of the office ? No more traffic-jams, you can decide when you start and stop working, ..

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                  Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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                  Sleepwalker_bg
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                  There was a survey out that listed the top 5 areas to work in the IT industry (in the US). First was the Redmond, WA area, not just because of Microsoft, but all the other companies as well. Second was San Jose, CA (Silicon Valley). Third was Fairfield County, CT, and fourth was Research Triangle, NC. I don't know if that means anything, but it was just something I saw. I work in CT and can tell you there are a ton of Internet companies here now. Priceline.com for one. If I had the chance to move it would probably be to San Jose, and get a house outside of the area (since housing costs are so outrageous there). I don't remember the 5th location

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                    DON'T come to Columbus for another year or so! Wait for them to get the highway system put back together

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                    This really depends on where you live and where you work. I don't have any problems, and neither do most people I deal with - but then again, adding an extra 10 minutes to your commute is a real killer, isn't it?. Compared to what LA and NY are like, Cowlumbus (ahem) is a dream-drive

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                      Columbus is a great college town but once you get tired of the High street bar scene there isn't much else. Also the city planners have really let the sprawl get out of hand. I would take a close look at Boston or NYC if you like city life and culture (and don't mind sky high rents) or the research traingle area for cheap land and access to the ocean or the mountains

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                      I have never once been down to OSU/High street in fifteen years, and have no reason to do so, ever. If you let the Buckeye fever media frenzy color your judgement, you're missing out on a lot of stuff. There _is_ a hell of a lot more than just football, you know! If you want crowded city blocks with lots of towering buildings, bums on the street, then sure, Columbus isn't for you, but maybe NYC is. I looked into the research triangle area a few years back, and wasn't impressed with the cost of living.

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                        Wouldn't it be great to do some work at home instead of the office ? No more traffic-jams, you can decide when you start and stop working, ..

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                        ardeva1201
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                        Some of us already do... but the "stop working" part? When did that happen? And you forgot to mention no meetings, office gossip, dealing with chatty people..

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                          If you're a single male...Dallas, Texas. Bar none. Granted it gets hot there, but sometimes sacrifices must be made.

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                          kolar83
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                          Thanks, that's the advice I was looking for. I checked out Austin, but was unimpressed with the opportunities for a single male. I have also heard that Houston is good in this category

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                            Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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                            Sydney is OK - but I guess I'm biased and would have to say Melbourne is nicer. Better restaurants/cafes, less stressed. Of my friends who work in Sydney and Melbourne, the ones in Melbourne are definitely enjoying it more. Then again, anywhere in Oz is kinda nice :

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                              Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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                              [Holiday Channel voiceover] Oh yes, the sprawling metropolis of Manchester in the UK is the epicentre of modern city living. With it's guaranteed 365 days a year rain and cold it's hard to beat this as a european holiday destination. Every year, people flock to Manchester to enjoy the city living in such delightful areas as the Moss Side estate, Hulme and Longsight. Crime is stabilising nicely to 'Demilitarised zone' levels. Also, with the assurance of the lowest IT wages in the country, why anyone would not want to live here is a mystery. [/Holiday Channel voiceover] I really should have taken that job down in LA

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                                Am thinking of moving (gotta love the IT industry!) and was wondering what are the best cities are. SF is fun, but hieneously expensive, Atlanta sounds miserable, but maybe something like somewhere in Canada or the UK - or even Sydney, Australia? (Looked mighty fine during the Olympics!

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                                I have worked in the Silicon Valley for quite sometime and have right now moved to columbus , ohio . What I miss the most is the work culture . Columbus is a "lazy technical city" . The engineers out here are not agressive barring a few . All the do is fix meetings the whole year round and talk , talk and talk . It's the few workhorses that get the job done on time . In Silicon Valley , the air is so inspiring and drives you to work and innovate all the time . The people are very technically baised and believe in less talk and "get work done" theory . That's what appealed to me most . If you are single , need a great job to work admist techincal gurus , need a place where reno , tahoe , napa valley , SF bay , point reyes , etc etc etc is just a weekend away from your reach , I'd suggest the valley . Fremont is a great city to live in ( if you work in the valley ) except the commute sometimes can get carzy . If were given the choice , i'd choose a 1 hour commute to a lifetime boredum in columbus , ohio .

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                                  Some of us already do... but the "stop working" part? When did that happen? And you forgot to mention no meetings, office gossip, dealing with chatty people..

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                                  ...and never being away from work, and finding it all too easy to spend "just 5 more minutes" and suddenly it's midnight again, and not social life..

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                                    I have worked in the Silicon Valley for quite sometime and have right now moved to columbus , ohio . What I miss the most is the work culture . Columbus is a "lazy technical city" . The engineers out here are not agressive barring a few . All the do is fix meetings the whole year round and talk , talk and talk . It's the few workhorses that get the job done on time . In Silicon Valley , the air is so inspiring and drives you to work and innovate all the time . The people are very technically baised and believe in less talk and "get work done" theory . That's what appealed to me most . If you are single , need a great job to work admist techincal gurus , need a place where reno , tahoe , napa valley , SF bay , point reyes , etc etc etc is just a weekend away from your reach , I'd suggest the valley . Fremont is a great city to live in ( if you work in the valley ) except the commute sometimes can get carzy . If were given the choice , i'd choose a 1 hour commute to a lifetime boredum in columbus , ohio .

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                                    "The engineers out here are not agressive barring a few . All the do is fix meetings the whole year round and talk , talk and talk" Man, what company(s) are you working for? The rest of us want to avoid them

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                                      "The engineers out here are not agressive barring a few . All the do is fix meetings the whole year round and talk , talk and talk" Man, what company(s) are you working for? The rest of us want to avoid them

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                                      I don't think it's the location, rather the size of the company and the amount of time that deadwood has had to gather. It seems that any company larger than 100 employees and older than 5 years starts collecting people with no useful skills and no real function

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                                        I don't think it's the location, rather the size of the company and the amount of time that deadwood has had to gather. It seems that any company larger than 100 employees and older than 5 years starts collecting people with no useful skills and no real function

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                                        In general I'd agree with you Stuart, When a company turns into an institution, it appears management are promoted to their level of inability ! Then they try to justify there position of superiority by wasting the real workers time by calling meetings all the time. Regard

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                                          ...and never being away from work, and finding it all too easy to spend "just 5 more minutes" and suddenly it's midnight again, and not social life..

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                                          You need to have some discipline. You have to decide when you start working and stop working. You would have people that work less or more. The employee should trust his employer. If I could work at home, I gain about 5 hours a day. I could work or do some social things instead of trying to get at work. About social life. I think I know my neighbours better then now when I work at home, I can drop my children at school and meet the other parents, ..

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