Europe's view of world threats
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EU embarrassed as poll labels Israel world's biggest threat Bit odd that though. How is Israel a threat to the world? Any Europeans care to comment? p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
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EU embarrassed as poll labels Israel world's biggest threat Bit odd that though. How is Israel a threat to the world? Any Europeans care to comment? p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. Do you mean Europe or "Islam North"? (Opps, sorry, excuse me while I sod off ;P ).
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Paul Watson wrote: p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. Do you mean Europe or "Islam North"? (Opps, sorry, excuse me while I sod off ;P ).
Glad to see you have a vestige of your good humour, Stan. Was getting worried. :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
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EU embarrassed as poll labels Israel world's biggest threat Bit odd that though. How is Israel a threat to the world? Any Europeans care to comment? p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. It is idiotic European opinions, such as those in the article, that forms middle America's opinion of Europe (old, not new). Sodding off for now. ps. Middle America = America excluding much of the right coast and virtually all of the left coast) Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." by: JAMES TRAUB New York Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy
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Paul Watson wrote: p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. It is idiotic European opinions, such as those in the article, that forms middle America's opinion of Europe (old, not new). Sodding off for now. ps. Middle America = America excluding much of the right coast and virtually all of the left coast) Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." by: JAMES TRAUB New York Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy
It is a pity that the vocal minority are cast as the majority when seen from the outside. The same happens for America with gung ho Texans and ingorant Southerners being represented as the majority of America. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
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EU embarrassed as poll labels Israel world's biggest threat Bit odd that though. How is Israel a threat to the world? Any Europeans care to comment? p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Bit odd that though. How is Israel a threat to the world? Any Europeans care to comment? My plot for the end of the world. Israel and Arab states keep fighting Arabs start to win Israel deploys nukes Arabs obtain nukes from former soviet union *BANG* America retaliates against Arabs (miss the target and hit Pakistan) Pakistan thinks it was the Indians behind it and launch their own attack French retaliate against America Brits retaliate against France China sees opportunity, invades everywhere Russians uses Nukes on China China nukes Russia End of the world as we know it There, I think I've managed to insult everybody's intelligence - after all we humans aren't really a savage race who tend to over-react in moments of crisis. ;-) Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
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It is a pity that the vocal minority are cast as the majority when seen from the outside. The same happens for America with gung ho Texans and ingorant Southerners being represented as the majority of America. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: gung ho Texans Just to set the record straight: 1) the gung ho Texan is leading a nation that is at war - middle America undestands that and care little about what the ignorant sods of Europe think. 2) the south is far from ignorant. Point in fact, the population of several southern states (Florida, Arizona, Nevada) include a significant proportion of wealthy retirees who find the northern welfare states (read as: high tax rates on anyone willing to actually work) a poor retirement choice 3) the south includes blacks who are returning for various reasons; 4) the south includes a significant population of illegals that prefer our south to their north; 5) the south includes a healthy economy based on technology, finance, farming and energy; 6) the south includes the fastest growing population areas of the country. I haven't of course been able to compare average IQ levels of Southerners to Europeans nor have I been able to determine actual knowledge levels of Southerners as compared to Europeans, so I really couldn't say which is the more ignorant. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." by: JAMES TRAUB New York Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy
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Paul Watson wrote: gung ho Texans Just to set the record straight: 1) the gung ho Texan is leading a nation that is at war - middle America undestands that and care little about what the ignorant sods of Europe think. 2) the south is far from ignorant. Point in fact, the population of several southern states (Florida, Arizona, Nevada) include a significant proportion of wealthy retirees who find the northern welfare states (read as: high tax rates on anyone willing to actually work) a poor retirement choice 3) the south includes blacks who are returning for various reasons; 4) the south includes a significant population of illegals that prefer our south to their north; 5) the south includes a healthy economy based on technology, finance, farming and energy; 6) the south includes the fastest growing population areas of the country. I haven't of course been able to compare average IQ levels of Southerners to Europeans nor have I been able to determine actual knowledge levels of Southerners as compared to Europeans, so I really couldn't say which is the more ignorant. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." by: JAMES TRAUB New York Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy
Mike Gaskey wrote: the population of several southern states (Florida, Arizona, Nevada) While Florida may qualify, Arizona and Nevada are not generally included in the term South when referring to the various regions of the US. Most of the population here is comprised of Californians who are sick of the police state the PRC has become, and natives who have never had any interest in anything that police state has to offer. Sadly, some of the same morons who destroyed the once great state of CA are also migrating here, and are trying to destroy AZ and NV with their paternalistic ideas about how a government should run. Apparently you can't teach an old idiot new tricks any easier than you can an old dog. While I don't see any indication that those in the Southwest have any lower IQs than anywhere else, the schools are terrible. Having little industry other than gambling the schools are impoverished, as is most of the population, and even the teachers are illiterate. Fortunately, ignorance can be cured given time and resources, and we're working on that.:-D "Your village called -
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It is a pity that the vocal minority are cast as the majority when seen from the outside. The same happens for America with gung ho Texans and ingorant Southerners being represented as the majority of America. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: ingorant Southerners Would that include your friend from Tennessee?
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Paul Watson wrote: Bit odd that though. How is Israel a threat to the world? Any Europeans care to comment? My plot for the end of the world. Israel and Arab states keep fighting Arabs start to win Israel deploys nukes Arabs obtain nukes from former soviet union *BANG* America retaliates against Arabs (miss the target and hit Pakistan) Pakistan thinks it was the Indians behind it and launch their own attack French retaliate against America Brits retaliate against France China sees opportunity, invades everywhere Russians uses Nukes on China China nukes Russia End of the world as we know it There, I think I've managed to insult everybody's intelligence - after all we humans aren't really a savage race who tend to over-react in moments of crisis. ;-) Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
Michael P Butler wrote: Israel and Arab states keep fighting Arabs start to win Israel deploys nukes Arabs obtain nukes from former soviet union *BANG* America retaliates against Arabs (miss the target and hit Pakistan) Pakistan thinks it was the Indians behind it and launch their own attack French retaliate against America C'mon, France would surrender long before they could retaliate:)
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EU embarrassed as poll labels Israel world's biggest threat Bit odd that though. How is Israel a threat to the world? Any Europeans care to comment? p.s. For those of you who are about to once again inform us that you don't give a rats arse about Europe, sod off. We already know. Give it up already. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
a) Noone asked me b) I guess the main take is that Israels agressive behavior is a major roadblock to bringing some stability into the middle east. My personal take is that there's no use in blaming opne player, but that I tend to be more angry at Israelian politics than the arab one. Another factor is that, while you can label the Israeli side easily on a (single) country, this doesn't work that easy for the arab position. Especially for germany - yes there is some hypocrisy, but one not easily resolved. Auschwitz is a touchy subject, no matter how you treat it, but the semi-official position of "critisizing Israel is antisemitism" only helps breeding a latent, unbased antisemitism. Public figures of the Jewish establishment jumping up shouting "But his Grandpa gassed my Grandpa" at every itch they dislike don't help either. And it must not be forgotten that there is some ... animosity towards jews deeply rooted in European history and culture that dates back long before 3rd Reich, and Europeans, being strongly culture-aware, don't get rid of this within one generation.
"Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel."
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Michael P Butler wrote: Israel and Arab states keep fighting Arabs start to win Israel deploys nukes Arabs obtain nukes from former soviet union *BANG* America retaliates against Arabs (miss the target and hit Pakistan) Pakistan thinks it was the Indians behind it and launch their own attack French retaliate against America C'mon, France would surrender long before they could retaliate:)
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This joke is growing old :rolleyes:
"Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel."
mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenAnd yet makes me laugh every time...
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Mike Gaskey wrote: the population of several southern states (Florida, Arizona, Nevada) While Florida may qualify, Arizona and Nevada are not generally included in the term South when referring to the various regions of the US. Most of the population here is comprised of Californians who are sick of the police state the PRC has become, and natives who have never had any interest in anything that police state has to offer. Sadly, some of the same morons who destroyed the once great state of CA are also migrating here, and are trying to destroy AZ and NV with their paternalistic ideas about how a government should run. Apparently you can't teach an old idiot new tricks any easier than you can an old dog. While I don't see any indication that those in the Southwest have any lower IQs than anywhere else, the schools are terrible. Having little industry other than gambling the schools are impoverished, as is most of the population, and even the teachers are illiterate. Fortunately, ignorance can be cured given time and resources, and we're working on that.:-D "Your village called -
They're missing their idiot."Roger Wright wrote: While Florida may qualify, Arizona and Nevada are not generally included in the term South I agree but doubt whether or not anyone but us would know the difference. My Nevada reference really pertains to Las Vegas, a city / area with a high concentration of retirees. I go there once a year, week at a time, and am always amazed by the retirees I find there. Of course, they may just be lost after a good tme at "Dead man walking". The deep south, I'll agree, has some problems (re: education) but I currently live in Indy and the schools here are run to the benefit of teachers unions or with an approach designed to avoid lawsuits with the overall effect of a terrible education for K - 12. The only real education at that level in this neck of the woods comes from: Charter Schools, Parochical Schools. and, other private shools. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." by: JAMES TRAUB New York Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy
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This joke is growing old :rolleyes:
"Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel."
mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenSimple minds are easily amused you know ;) -- Ofra Haza: R.I.P
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a) Noone asked me b) I guess the main take is that Israels agressive behavior is a major roadblock to bringing some stability into the middle east. My personal take is that there's no use in blaming opne player, but that I tend to be more angry at Israelian politics than the arab one. Another factor is that, while you can label the Israeli side easily on a (single) country, this doesn't work that easy for the arab position. Especially for germany - yes there is some hypocrisy, but one not easily resolved. Auschwitz is a touchy subject, no matter how you treat it, but the semi-official position of "critisizing Israel is antisemitism" only helps breeding a latent, unbased antisemitism. Public figures of the Jewish establishment jumping up shouting "But his Grandpa gassed my Grandpa" at every itch they dislike don't help either. And it must not be forgotten that there is some ... animosity towards jews deeply rooted in European history and culture that dates back long before 3rd Reich, and Europeans, being strongly culture-aware, don't get rid of this within one generation.
"Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel."
mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: And it must not be forgotten that there is some ... animosity towards jews deeply rooted in European history and culture that dates back long before 3rd Reich, and Europeans, being strongly culture-aware, don't get rid of this within one generation. Jews and Christians are not the only two ethnic groups that's been fighting in Europe the last thousand years. Let's not forget the protestants vs catholics, norse mythology vs christianity, muslims vs christians. I'm sure all permutations of those combinations are valid as well. The conflicts have always been there I'm afraid, and will probably be there for a long while. Religious and politic zealotry will kill us all off in the end :) The 3rd Reich-thing could've happened anywhere. Coups have been done since man could stand straight, and there's always been other men willing to spill blood to dominate other men. In the case of Hitler & Co, they were driven by insanity and not just the ordinary quest for power. -- Ofra Haza: R.I.P
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It is a pity that the vocal minority are cast as the majority when seen from the outside. The same happens for America with gung ho Texans and ingorant Southerners being represented as the majority of America. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?
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a) Noone asked me b) I guess the main take is that Israels agressive behavior is a major roadblock to bringing some stability into the middle east. My personal take is that there's no use in blaming opne player, but that I tend to be more angry at Israelian politics than the arab one. Another factor is that, while you can label the Israeli side easily on a (single) country, this doesn't work that easy for the arab position. Especially for germany - yes there is some hypocrisy, but one not easily resolved. Auschwitz is a touchy subject, no matter how you treat it, but the semi-official position of "critisizing Israel is antisemitism" only helps breeding a latent, unbased antisemitism. Public figures of the Jewish establishment jumping up shouting "But his Grandpa gassed my Grandpa" at every itch they dislike don't help either. And it must not be forgotten that there is some ... animosity towards jews deeply rooted in European history and culture that dates back long before 3rd Reich, and Europeans, being strongly culture-aware, don't get rid of this within one generation.
"Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel."
mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: And it must not be forgotten that there is some ... animosity towards jews deeply rooted in European history and culture that dates back long before 3rd Reich, and Europeans, being strongly culture-aware, don't get rid of this within one generation. Surely that would have crossed the Atlantic on the Mayflower too? What happened in Germany was a result of economics and a vulnerable polical system. It would have been unthinkable in Britain or France, I can't comment on Scandinavia. Ryan
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peterchen wrote: And it must not be forgotten that there is some ... animosity towards jews deeply rooted in European history and culture that dates back long before 3rd Reich, and Europeans, being strongly culture-aware, don't get rid of this within one generation. Jews and Christians are not the only two ethnic groups that's been fighting in Europe the last thousand years. Let's not forget the protestants vs catholics, norse mythology vs christianity, muslims vs christians. I'm sure all permutations of those combinations are valid as well. The conflicts have always been there I'm afraid, and will probably be there for a long while. Religious and politic zealotry will kill us all off in the end :) The 3rd Reich-thing could've happened anywhere. Coups have been done since man could stand straight, and there's always been other men willing to spill blood to dominate other men. In the case of Hitler & Co, they were driven by insanity and not just the ordinary quest for power. -- Ofra Haza: R.I.P
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Jews and Christians are not the only two ethnic groups that's been fighting in Europe the last thousand years. Just so I'm sure you really understand: 1. Christianity is not an ethenticity; 2. Jews and Christians were not fighting, Europe was conducting progroms; 3. Protestants versus Catholics, if I am not mistaken, is more on the order of indigenous people fighting versus invaders although I believe they've all forgotten that part. Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: The 3rd Reich-thing could've happened anywhere. Bullshit. Plain and simple, bullshit. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." by: JAMES TRAUB New York Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy
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And yet makes me laugh every time...
Felix Gartsman wrote: And yet makes me laugh every time... Shame on me, I didn't recognize it as a joke. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." by: JAMES TRAUB New York Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy