US retaliation against France etc.
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: According to your rules, it would a physical impossibility for you to hide the cola where the police couldn't find it. Assuming I had cola, yes. :P Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Oh, but you do have it![^] Full circle, cycle complete, clap clap clap. :-D Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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Richard Stringer wrote: Nope we went in after the OIL baby - just the oil. We couldn't have been going after the oil - Venezuela has oil and we didn't invade them! Just kidding - that is one of the asinine arguments that the pro-Saddam folks always use: "You weren't there to liberate Iraq - if you were then why don't you free the other countries ruled by dictators" :) I can't help but laughing. Then when I think they might actually believe that garbage I feel like crying instead. So I compromise and laugh myself to tears!
You gotta tell them what they want to believe. I personally, as a life long Republican and a fellow Texan , am writing George a letter and trying to get the camel dung removal concession. Gotta be some big bucks there with all those bombs going off and scaring the shit out of the camels. Maybe I can sub contract the work to a German company. Not French cause they would probably find some way to cook and eat the product :) Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
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You gotta tell them what they want to believe. I personally, as a life long Republican and a fellow Texan , am writing George a letter and trying to get the camel dung removal concession. Gotta be some big bucks there with all those bombs going off and scaring the shit out of the camels. Maybe I can sub contract the work to a German company. Not French cause they would probably find some way to cook and eat the product :) Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
Right on! I was stationed at Fort Hood for 18 months. I lived off-post (in Copperas Cove) and got to really enjoy central Texas. DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS
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I think the USA provided a lot of it. Oh!!! I get it! Since we sold it to him, that means we can never punish him if he invades a neighbor. Got it. So in a state where the government controls liquor sales a guy can get drunk and drive into a schoolbus and kill 20 children and not be prosecuted since the government sold him the liquor. If this isn't your point - how is this relevant? It is so repetitive that it is almost soothing - like a heartbeat. Right on cue someone chimes in with a shrill "Didn't the US sell the chemical weapons?" Now hear this: Any nation that has ever recieved any military assistance, weapons, etc. from the USA is free to rape and pillage whatever nations they want because the USA is forbidden from ever going after them because brainiacs will say "DUH GEE!!!! DIDN'T THE US SELL THEM WEAPONS??? DUHH!!!!!!!!!!".
The US (and to a lesser extent the rest of the developed world including the UK) were happy to turn a blind eye and take his money so helped to create the monster. Its called taking responsibility for your actions. Instead, now people worse than him in some smaller countries around there are getting support in order to support the US's short term goals. The tigress is here :-D
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Mike Gaskey wrote: There are absolutes, good and evil, to believe otherwise is be too cowardly to stand up for what is right and what is wrong. Ridiculous. If there are moral absolutes then it takes no courage whatsoever to stand up for what is 'good,' because everybody would agree that it is 'good.' Same for being against what is commonly accepted as evil. For example, in our society, taking a stand against something like pedophilia isn't really couragous. Courage comes from acting on your less popular set of morals and beliefs in spite of the fact that a vast number of people disagree. (say prayer in school, for example.) However, the line between courage and fanaticism is very, very, thin and depends on which side you're arguing. You'll only be couragous to those people who agree with your moral opinions. Eco
Eco Jones wrote: because everybody would agree that it is 'good.' What were you smoking last night? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy **"could a country (USA) letting one sixth of its population under the level of powerty be considered as civilized?"**KaЯl (France let 15,000 elderly die from summer heat)
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John Carson wrote: Such an approach has a legitimate place in relation to countries that are fundamentally hostile to the US. I would say that a nation that supported our enemy in a war is a hostile country.
Terry O`Nolley wrote: I would say that a nation that supported our enemy in a war is a hostile country. For a programmer that is a VERY illogical conclusion, how did Germany and France support Iraq during the war? :wtf: Does that mean that I am supporting Red Cross by not sending them money?, makes it very easy to be generous then... :doh: "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus
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Daniel Ferguson wrote: Does anyone still wonder why people are critical of US foreign policy? Of course not - there are several million people like you all too willing to twist the meanings of the actions of the USA and spread it like an oil slick over the consciousness of stupid people who are all to ready to accept your tawdry explanations. Look - There is a homicidal maniac holed up in his house. You, as a good neighbor, decide to drag him out and beat him to death. Across the street from you is another neighbor. This one is a snivelling little fuck who keeps telling you to leave his firend - the maniac - alone. He keeps whining and wiping his runny nose and crying to everyone who will listen "Oooh that bully isn't so bad. Just leave him alone. Eventually he'll go away if you just ignore him". Since you have common sense, you ignore the snivelling little fuck and knock on the maniacs door and tell him to come out now - he is under arrest. In response, you hear the maniac barricading himself in and you hear weapons being loaded. So you kick in his door and drag him out. Now you have a house with a broken door and the snivelling neighbor from earlier wants you to pay him money to fix the door?!?!??! Yeah right. If people are so stupid that they think the US is acting childish by not awarding contracts to the nations that supported our enemy during the war then fine. They are too fucking stupid for me to care about. Sure - it is hip to insult the USA. It is cool to be the rebel, etc. But by calling our policy of trying to reward the countries that actually *HELPED* childish, you aren't coming off as the smartest person.
Terry O`Nolley wrote: If people are so stupid that they think the US is acting childish by not awarding contracts to the nations that supported our enemy during the war then fine. They are too f***ing stupid for me to care about. Sure - it is hip to insult the USA. It is cool to be the rebel, etc. But by calling our policy of trying to reward the countries that actually *HELPED* childish, you aren't coming off as the smartest person. And the smartest person is the one who thinks that 'doing nothing' is equal to 'supporting', hm? This, by the way, has nothing to do with rewarding, because if Iraq was free it would choose whoever it wanted. No, this is about punishment. And that is not childish, it is very stupid. Allthough the arrogance of the majority of US is such that you think you live in a vacuum, you are still a part of the world, and you are just as dependant on foreign trade as are any other country. How smart is it to offend 2 of your largest business partners? "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus
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John Carson wrote: The original reasons for the Iraq war having proven bogus (i.e., weapons of mass destruction, Iraqi links to anti-US terrorism, and support for the resolutions of the UN), How have the WMD claims been proven bogus? According to this "logic", Saddam Hussein didn't exist either. And one of the original reasons listed for the war was Saddam's human rights abuses.
Terry O`Nolley wrote: And one of the original reasons listed for the war was Saddam's human rights abuses. While there is still Guantanamo, I think US should avoid mention human rights... "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus
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Eco Jones wrote: because everybody would agree that it is 'good.' What were you smoking last night? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy **"could a country (USA) letting one sixth of its population under the level of powerty be considered as civilized?"**KaЯl (France let 15,000 elderly die from summer heat)
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: I would say that a nation that supported our enemy in a war is a hostile country. For a programmer that is a VERY illogical conclusion, how did Germany and France support Iraq during the war? :wtf: Does that mean that I am supporting Red Cross by not sending them money?, makes it very easy to be generous then... :doh: "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus
France and Russia had military advisors in Iraq the day before the war. France promised to veto any action that might overthrow Saddam. Russia and France shared intel with Saddam.