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will the Bush admin show some restrain?

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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    They aren't leftist, hence they are good enough for Mr tsih. -- "We shall crush you down to the point, where there is no coming back, things will happen to you from which you could not recover if you lived a thousand years, a thousand years."

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    Tomaz Stih 0
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    They are dictators that should be removed from power. Let's now return to the real world and discuss their removal without bringing even worse dictator in power? Any constructive ideas? ... ...well, thank you anyway, Tomaz

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    • Z zeta_theking

      one would think after the iraq scenerio the bush administration and the American people in general will be hesistant to embrace another dictator as a friend. Please wise-up Americans. Click

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      brianwelsch
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      zeta_theking wrote: Please wise-up Americans. You're right, we should discourage disarming. :~

      "Things are not what they seem. Nor are they any different."

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      • M mystro_AKA_kokie

        JWood wrote:According to FAS, they haven't had much luck in putting together a program in any case. They just don't have the techical expertise. They wanted to buy a reactor from the Russian's then it was too complicated so they wanted to buy one from the Belgians, who backed off from USA pressure. This was all in the 80's anyways. which begs the question, why are they giving him so much attention? it occured to me that the two iraq allies(britian and america) are the ones to whom this seem to be a big deal.Isn't everyone just a little sick of the WMD noise?given the fact that nothing has materilized uptil now. It's a sh*tty world. Take advantage of whomever,whenever,whereever. And oh.. becarefull what you say to me,am too sensitive.Or i might just show up at your house.i retract the latter,am trying to be a better person.

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        Libya has admitted they have WMD. We have seen it. Between now and the time the UN inspectors get there Libya could dump it all in a hole in the desert. Would that mean then that it never existed? Because that is what the brainiacs are saying about Saddam's WMD.

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        • T Tomaz Stih 0

          But they did. And not just by supporting the regime in the United Nations (of course not by saying "we support regime", but by saying "we are against overthrowing the regime"), but by supporting terrorists and insurgents by vicious anti-american propaganda and self imposed censorship. That's how it really was. The media were full of hysteria, the television shows airing fabricated lies and promoting distorted historical facts. It went so far that France's lumpen proletarian thugs were insulting American and British tourists and Chirac was criticising small Eastern European countries for not "keeping their mouth shut". It was a Goebbels like campaign. It was transparent hatred, intolerance and brainwashing by the left. A new Kristallnacht where the imperialist turbo capitalist neo darwinist American pig was "embodied evil", and the darkest socialist regimes such as Allendes' were defended with epistemological relativism (of course, denied to the leader of the free world, not that it would need one). Europe was really very close to nazional socialism and I think we should discuss this now and not try to hide it under the carpet and pretend that it never happened. Tomaz

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          Terry ONolley
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          Good luck trying to get certain people here from believing the truth. Thy never even acknowledge the fact that French and Russian military advisors were identified fleeing Iraq like rats leaving a sinking ship the day before the bombs started flying.

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            zeta_theking wrote: Please wise-up Americans. You're right, we should discourage disarming. :~

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            James T Johnson
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            brianwelsch wrote: You're right, we should discourage disarming. Let's encourage it; but let us also not be lulled into thinking that just because they say they will do something that they will actually do it *cough* North Korea *cough*. James "When you get frunk whats really fuinny is that you dont really realize you are cdtrunk till you are too drunk and by thewn you are too drunk to give a damn about being drubnk :-0" A drunk Nish over Sonork

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            • T Terry ONolley

              Libya has admitted they have WMD. We have seen it. Between now and the time the UN inspectors get there Libya could dump it all in a hole in the desert. Would that mean then that it never existed? Because that is what the brainiacs are saying about Saddam's WMD.

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              but with a gazillion spy satellites hanging above these countries which supposedly pick up even "mobile labs" could such large scale hole digging be going on ??..dont u think the inspectors could drive down straight to the Hole as soon as their jets touch down on the tarmac in Tripoli International ??? There are no failures; there are only extended learning opportunities.

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                Libya has admitted they have WMD. We have seen it. Between now and the time the UN inspectors get there Libya could dump it all in a hole in the desert. Would that mean then that it never existed? Because that is what the brainiacs are saying about Saddam's WMD.

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                Terry O'Nolley wrote: dump it all in a hole in the desert Are you saying the US Army isn't smart enough to find a large, recent excavation? Not even with the help of satellite photos, metal detectors, etc. [edit] and knowledge -- before the invasion started -- about these supposed WMDs [/edit]

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                • T Terry ONolley

                  Libya has admitted they have WMD. We have seen it. Between now and the time the UN inspectors get there Libya could dump it all in a hole in the desert. Would that mean then that it never existed? Because that is what the brainiacs are saying about Saddam's WMD.

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                  I'm not saying they haven't tried to obtain them and perhaps had some success with chemical weapons (not nuclear, though), I am just saying that they are not technically skilled enough to be a really, really big threat.

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                  • M mystro_AKA_kokie

                    JWood Wrote:I think they are crowing about it to make the other so-called terrorist states (Syria, Palestine, Iran, etc) follow suit. But probly not gonna happen with Israel quietly sitting on 100 slightly disassembled nucular missiles. SHhhh don't tell anyone. or could it be that both guys(blair and bush) are facing re-election soon and need to keep something hot on the agenda.:) are my being too scenical. It's a sh*tty world. Take advantage of whomever,whenever,whereever. And oh.. becarefull what you say to me,am too sensitive.Or i might just show up at your house.i retract the latter,am trying to be a better person.

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                    You can never be too cynical.

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                      but with a gazillion spy satellites hanging above these countries which supposedly pick up even "mobile labs" could such large scale hole digging be going on ??..dont u think the inspectors could drive down straight to the Hole as soon as their jets touch down on the tarmac in Tripoli International ??? There are no failures; there are only extended learning opportunities.

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                      retZ wrote: could such large scale hole digging be going on ??.. Thats what I think people don't realize. The total amount of all of their WMD could fit in the back of 1 trailer-truck. The amount of equipment needed to dig a hole big enough to dump the truck's contents could be a single backhoe. Only a few people would needed. And no - our spy satelites don't cover every square inch of every enemy nation tracking every truck driving on every road. And a 10 foot deep hole dug in soft sand wouldn't show up on satellite photos after it was filled in. How big do you think 100 tons of mustard gas is? Figure that your standard 55 gallon oil barrel would weigh at least 4500 pounds each (given that mustard gas is 16 times as dense as water - molecular weight of 159 vrs 10). So 100 tons of mustard gas would only fill 50 oil drums. What about 4,000 litres of anthrax? That would fit inside of 20 more barrels. How big does a truck need to be to hold 70 oil drums? Your average trailer truck would hold it easily. How long would take to dig a hole in soft sand with a backhoe large enough to hold 70 barrels? About a half hour to dig, a half hour to roll the barrels into the hold and another half hour to fill in. How long would take to kill the people who did the digging? About 5 seconds. Presto! No WMD!

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                      • Z zeta_theking

                        one would think after the iraq scenerio the bush administration and the American people in general will be hesistant to embrace another dictator as a friend. Please wise-up Americans. Click

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                        Gadaffi is getting old. The worry is who will replace him ? The tigress is here :-D

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