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M.Shoaib Khan wrote: btw who in this world give this right that US can have nuclear weapons which she can use against Japan ( a terrorist act), but Pakistan, Iran or any other state can't have??? HA!!! Good one! You don't actually believe that shit do you? I mean, you are obviously smart enough to at least spell out words and type. In WWII, all involved countries used mass bombing of civilian targets as a strategy. More people were killed in conventional carpet bombings of cities in 1 night then were killed in either of the atomic bomb attacks. Look, if you want to look back in history to dredge up things which are not acceptable today, then I'm sure you can do better than that. Who gave us the right? We invented them. If Pakistan had the technology of the USA in WWII and the USA did not participate in WWII then I believe that at least 3 billion less people would be alive today. Unlike the USA, Pakistan would have used their nukes to wipe out India, Russia, China and every other non-Islamic country they could reach with their bombers. You would have medieval idiots shouting "Allah Ahkbar!" as they nuked city after city of infidels. If you don't believe this then you are a poor, blind, self-delusional frog.
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What's the latest butt-scratch count? Check it out!Terry O`Nolley wrote: Look, if you want to look back in history to ... History always repeats itself...NOT a single muslim state has done such a destruction. and BTW there was no single muslim state directly involved in WWII and that destruction.. Now talking of current situation, u dont see supressed people (muslims) of Palestine, Bosnia and Kashmir... thousands of people killed in kashmir (approx. 15000, exact figure i dont remember)in just few years and many others in these states just because they are muslims, and yet you say that if Pakistan had NUKES at time of WWII then it will wipe out cities INDIA.. FYI Pakistan has close ties with China .. infact some people beleive that China has got Nuclear Centrifuge technology from Pakistan. i guess if US had the right to have nuclear weapons and use them (According to u) then Japan also has the same right to do the same to US.. simple LOGIC US killed thousands of people in Afghanistan in missile attacks, bombings etc.. Do u beleive all that only Taliban were killed in those attacks..??? majority were civilians having no relationship with such bull shit.. U people attacked Iraq when it was suppresing people but how about INDIA.. there are killings thousands of people in kashmir.. its BECOZ US got interest in Oil in Iraq .. so it invaded to capture that OIL but there is no such interest in ISREAL or INDIA.. u got double standards... SO I WISH PAKISTAN HAS INTER CONTINENTAL NUCLEAR MISSILES to target these evils.. and btw research is going on such technology in KRL labs and my univ which is closely associated with Dr. A.Q.Khan (father of Pakistan nuclear program) and Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission. ;) Currently Pak has got nuclear missile with range of 3,500 KM.. Why can ISRAEL have NUKES but IRAN can't?? Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
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M.Shoaib Khan wrote: Islam strongly condemns killing innocent people as in 9/11 case. According to islam a killer of innocent person (be it christian or muslim) is sentenced to death.. You guys keep saying that, but the murderers of 3000+ Americans, who did their killing in the name of your religion, are probably somewhere in your country. Have you spent any time trying to find them? I can assure you that if a religious fanatic who had killed 3000 of your countrymen in the name of my religion were hiding somewhere in my country I would be demanding that the government find them and punish them. But then, I'm a Christian. You Muslims talk the talk, but you don't seem to have enough manhood to walk the walk. M.Shoaib Khan wrote: btw who in this world give this right that US can have nuclear weapons which she can use against Japan ( a terrorist act), but Pakistan, Iran or any other state can't have??? We did. And the world is a better place for it. M.Shoaib Khan wrote: Why US helps Israel in its terrorist acts agaisnt palestinian people??? Because a billion Muslims are dedicated to the destruction of Israel. M.Shoaib Khan wrote: ??? isnt it the terrorist act of US that it invaded Iraq despite it couldnt find ANY SINGLE WMD?? No, it was an act of cleaning up a mess that your "civilization" should have taken care of long ago. Millions of westerners died to stop a western tyrant named Hitler. When will a million Muslims have the courage to stand up and destroy the evil spewing out of your culture? Until you do that, don't expect me to have any respect for you or your religion. Talk is cheap, and bible (or Koran) thumpers are a dime a dozen.
Stan Shannon wrote: who did their killing in the name of your religion, are probably somewhere in your country .Have you spent any time trying to find them? Pakistan + US Agencies are jointly searching for any such suspects in Pakistan and large number of such suspects have already been captured.. so think before u speak. (if u got something in your head US has got control of afghanistan .. if US cant search for OSAMA BIN LADEN despite of its all latest inventions, technology and powerfull satellites then how can Pakistan find any terror suspect??? Stan Shannon wrote: Because a billion Muslims are dedicated to the destruction of Israel. yeah Muslims should.. becoz ISRAEL is a terrorist state. They have illegally captured holy land from muslims and are suppresing innocent people of Palestine.. Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
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While others believe that Iraq has something that an occupying power has been unable to prove despite having free run for how long ?, as well as the guy they claim hid them in custody, simply because the person who was not elected to run their country told them so. The USA is not evil, just a lot of people within the USA are pretty damn stupid. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: Look, if you want to look back in history to ... History always repeats itself...NOT a single muslim state has done such a destruction. and BTW there was no single muslim state directly involved in WWII and that destruction.. Now talking of current situation, u dont see supressed people (muslims) of Palestine, Bosnia and Kashmir... thousands of people killed in kashmir (approx. 15000, exact figure i dont remember)in just few years and many others in these states just because they are muslims, and yet you say that if Pakistan had NUKES at time of WWII then it will wipe out cities INDIA.. FYI Pakistan has close ties with China .. infact some people beleive that China has got Nuclear Centrifuge technology from Pakistan. i guess if US had the right to have nuclear weapons and use them (According to u) then Japan also has the same right to do the same to US.. simple LOGIC US killed thousands of people in Afghanistan in missile attacks, bombings etc.. Do u beleive all that only Taliban were killed in those attacks..??? majority were civilians having no relationship with such bull shit.. U people attacked Iraq when it was suppresing people but how about INDIA.. there are killings thousands of people in kashmir.. its BECOZ US got interest in Oil in Iraq .. so it invaded to capture that OIL but there is no such interest in ISREAL or INDIA.. u got double standards... SO I WISH PAKISTAN HAS INTER CONTINENTAL NUCLEAR MISSILES to target these evils.. and btw research is going on such technology in KRL labs and my univ which is closely associated with Dr. A.Q.Khan (father of Pakistan nuclear program) and Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission. ;) Currently Pak has got nuclear missile with range of 3,500 KM.. Why can ISRAEL have NUKES but IRAN can't?? Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
M.Shoaib Khan wrote: dont see supressed people (muslims) of Palestine, Bosnia and Kashmir... Indeed. I agree with you here. In the Paki occupied Kashmir, if someone even talks about an independent state, he/she is considered a traitor by the Paki law. Your "constitution" was amended in 1964 to make this possible. Right to self determination, eh? Practise what you preach, anyone? M.Shoaib Khan wrote: thousands of people killed in kashmir (approx. 15000, exact figure i dont remember)in just few years and many others in these states just because they are muslims Your hatred for India has made you blind. I'll tell you the figure. In the past 10 years or so, approximately 48,000 people have been killed in India (that includes those living in Kashmir) in terrorist attacks sponsored and initiated by the Pakis. But you can expect to see a decline in these numbers as now we have started shooting every sneaky bastard that tries to cross the border with arms and bombs. There was a time, not too long ago, when the motherfuckers killed at least five people everyday. Not any more. Now we have a nice graveyard on the border where the bodies of all the sons of Paki bitches trying to cross the border are dumped. And know what, your president General Parvez Musharraf admitted in a press conference today that the Paki government has been involved in terrorism and that he'll now start taking steps to stop it. Whether or not he lives up to his words remains to be seen. Also, your ex president, Benazir Bhutto openly admitted the same thing just a few days ago during a visit to India. This has been going on for decades, according to her. How about that? Don't think anyone is getting fooled by your propaganda. Open your eyes and as I said in an earlier thread, try to take your head out of your butt and breathe some fresh air. It might give you a new perspective and a chance to taste something else than the shit your mullahs have been feeding you in your madrasas. Accusing India of violence committed by your people is the lowest you can get probably. Thickhead. Thickhead wrote: some people beleive that China has got Nuclear Centrifuge technology from Pakistan. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Pakistan, who can't manufacture a piece of cloth to wipe their arse, will give technology to China? :laugh: You are dumb indeed. *wipes tears from eyes* Regards, Rohit Sinha
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John Carson wrote: Perhaps if you read the article, you might discover its point --- which is that Pakistan has been the main facilitator of nuclear proliferation yet its role has been largely ignored. You need to learn to sing more than one note. Perhaps if you read my reply - comma - you might discover that what I said isn't inconsistent with Pakistan's behaviour. John Carson wrote: You need to learn to sing more than one note. Since my post declared that a large number of people here believe Saddam had no WMD - are you agreeing with me or not? Your changing of the subject makes you seem to have a vocal range of 1 note as well.
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What's the latest butt-scratch count? Check it out!Terry O`Nolley wrote: Perhaps if you read my reply - comma - you might discover that what I said isn't inconsistent with Pakistan's behaviour. Depends on what you mean by inconsistent. A major point of the article was that Pakistan was not getting the attention it deserved, considering its importance in nuclear proliferation. By bringing the subject back to Iraq (which has already received massive attention) and totally omitting any reference to Pakistan, you were exhibiting the same lack of proportion that the article was highlighting. Terry O`Nolley wrote: Since my post declared that a large number of people here believe Saddam had no WMD - are you agreeing with me or not? A large number of people here believe that at the start of the war and for some time prior to it Saddam had no WMD. John Carson "I wish to propose for the reader's favourable consideration a doctrine which may, I fear, appear wildly paradoxical and subversive. The doctrine in question is this: that it is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatever for supposing it true." - Bertrand Russell
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M.Shoaib Khan wrote: dont see supressed people (muslims) of Palestine, Bosnia and Kashmir... Indeed. I agree with you here. In the Paki occupied Kashmir, if someone even talks about an independent state, he/she is considered a traitor by the Paki law. Your "constitution" was amended in 1964 to make this possible. Right to self determination, eh? Practise what you preach, anyone? M.Shoaib Khan wrote: thousands of people killed in kashmir (approx. 15000, exact figure i dont remember)in just few years and many others in these states just because they are muslims Your hatred for India has made you blind. I'll tell you the figure. In the past 10 years or so, approximately 48,000 people have been killed in India (that includes those living in Kashmir) in terrorist attacks sponsored and initiated by the Pakis. But you can expect to see a decline in these numbers as now we have started shooting every sneaky bastard that tries to cross the border with arms and bombs. There was a time, not too long ago, when the motherfuckers killed at least five people everyday. Not any more. Now we have a nice graveyard on the border where the bodies of all the sons of Paki bitches trying to cross the border are dumped. And know what, your president General Parvez Musharraf admitted in a press conference today that the Paki government has been involved in terrorism and that he'll now start taking steps to stop it. Whether or not he lives up to his words remains to be seen. Also, your ex president, Benazir Bhutto openly admitted the same thing just a few days ago during a visit to India. This has been going on for decades, according to her. How about that? Don't think anyone is getting fooled by your propaganda. Open your eyes and as I said in an earlier thread, try to take your head out of your butt and breathe some fresh air. It might give you a new perspective and a chance to taste something else than the shit your mullahs have been feeding you in your madrasas. Accusing India of violence committed by your people is the lowest you can get probably. Thickhead. Thickhead wrote: some people beleive that China has got Nuclear Centrifuge technology from Pakistan. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Pakistan, who can't manufacture a piece of cloth to wipe their arse, will give technology to China? :laugh: You are dumb indeed. *wipes tears from eyes* Regards, Rohit Sinha
There is no violence/terrorism in Pakistani side of Kashmir just because they want tobe our part and they r happy on that.. Rohit Sinha wrote: 48,000 people have been killed in India by your own armed forces in Kashmir, hindu extremists in Gujrat (KILLING 10,000 inidan muslims) just like u who have become mad after eating holy shit of their GOD COW and have smoke coming out of their cheap ASSS , Behar and many other states which are striving for independence from INDIA.. Rohit Sinha wrote: Thickhead wrote: some people beleive that China has got Nuclear Centrifuge technology from Pakistan. Yeah you will get to know what Pakistan manufacture when something like missile will tear off your ASS.. About that china centrfuge thingie, read the article in New York Times due to which this chain message started.. its link is given in the message in start of this thread.. So come out of you limited world which starts from cow and ends at Cow's shit and try to understand international affairs.. and sorry for firing your already burning ass :laugh::laugh::laugh: Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: THus, anything that you can't find must not exist. That's a bit weak and a long way from the justification for war, which was 'we know he has them and we know where they are'. Terry O`Nolley wrote: The same guy who your earlier point proves was lieing? Now you want to believe him? The point is not that if he says now he didn't have them that I'd believe him, but that there's a good chance that if he had them, he'd be able to be co-erced into saying where they are. Terry O`Nolley wrote: If Bush wasn't elected according to the process spelled out in the US constitution then he would not be the president at this time. I guess you need to believe that, don't you ? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: That's a bit weak and a long way from the justification for war, which was 'we know he has them and we know where they are'. Even if we knew where they were (I don't recall any CIA leaks that detailed exactly where the weapons were) it doesn't mean they would be in the same place after the war started. Christian Graus wrote: The point is not that if he says now he didn't have them that I'd believe him, but that there's a good chance that if he had them, he'd be able to be co-erced into saying where they are. We're still working on him. I said in a post a dew months back that Libya was a likely resting place for some of Saddam's arsenal. I am hopeful some of that transfer will come to light as we begin inspecting Libya's WMD. Christian Graus wrote: I guess you need to believe that, don't you ? For the zillionth time, I didn't vote for him. But in case you are truly ignorant about US election law and the constitution and not just saying things to be contrary, here is a link: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html#section1[^]
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: Look, if you want to look back in history to ... History always repeats itself...NOT a single muslim state has done such a destruction. and BTW there was no single muslim state directly involved in WWII and that destruction.. Now talking of current situation, u dont see supressed people (muslims) of Palestine, Bosnia and Kashmir... thousands of people killed in kashmir (approx. 15000, exact figure i dont remember)in just few years and many others in these states just because they are muslims, and yet you say that if Pakistan had NUKES at time of WWII then it will wipe out cities INDIA.. FYI Pakistan has close ties with China .. infact some people beleive that China has got Nuclear Centrifuge technology from Pakistan. i guess if US had the right to have nuclear weapons and use them (According to u) then Japan also has the same right to do the same to US.. simple LOGIC US killed thousands of people in Afghanistan in missile attacks, bombings etc.. Do u beleive all that only Taliban were killed in those attacks..??? majority were civilians having no relationship with such bull shit.. U people attacked Iraq when it was suppresing people but how about INDIA.. there are killings thousands of people in kashmir.. its BECOZ US got interest in Oil in Iraq .. so it invaded to capture that OIL but there is no such interest in ISREAL or INDIA.. u got double standards... SO I WISH PAKISTAN HAS INTER CONTINENTAL NUCLEAR MISSILES to target these evils.. and btw research is going on such technology in KRL labs and my univ which is closely associated with Dr. A.Q.Khan (father of Pakistan nuclear program) and Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission. ;) Currently Pak has got nuclear missile with range of 3,500 KM.. Why can ISRAEL have NUKES but IRAN can't?? Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
M.Shoaib Khan wrote: History always repeats itself...NOT a single muslim state has done such a destruction. That is because in one of humanities most lucky of quirks, the Islamic religion has kept their citizens in a state of temporal stasis and have thus missed getting their extremist hands on nukes. M.Shoaib Khan wrote: SO I WISH PAKISTAN HAS INTER CONTINENTAL NUCLEAR MISSILES to target these evils.. And you wonder why the world doesn't like the idea of religious freak nations with nuclear weapons....... M.Shoaib Khan wrote: Why can ISRAEL have NUKES but IRAN can't?? If you hadn't noticed, Israel hasn't used their nukes. I am sure that a nation like Iran - who swears it is their duty to god to wipe out the great satan from the face of the earth - WOULD use them.
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There is no violence/terrorism in Pakistani side of Kashmir just because they want tobe our part and they r happy on that.. Rohit Sinha wrote: 48,000 people have been killed in India by your own armed forces in Kashmir, hindu extremists in Gujrat (KILLING 10,000 inidan muslims) just like u who have become mad after eating holy shit of their GOD COW and have smoke coming out of their cheap ASSS , Behar and many other states which are striving for independence from INDIA.. Rohit Sinha wrote: Thickhead wrote: some people beleive that China has got Nuclear Centrifuge technology from Pakistan. Yeah you will get to know what Pakistan manufacture when something like missile will tear off your ASS.. About that china centrfuge thingie, read the article in New York Times due to which this chain message started.. its link is given in the message in start of this thread.. So come out of you limited world which starts from cow and ends at Cow's shit and try to understand international affairs.. and sorry for firing your already burning ass :laugh::laugh::laugh: Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
M.Shoaib Khan wrote: There is no violence/terrorism in Pakistani side of Kashmir just because they want tobe our part and they r happy on that.. That's obviously because the Paki government trains terrorists to be sent to India, not the Paki occupied Kashmir. If you think anything else, you are an idiot. Idiot wrote: by your own armed forces in Kashmir, hindu extremists in Gujrat (KILLING 10,000 inidan muslims) just like u who have become mad after eating holy sh*t of their GOD COW and have smoke coming out of their cheap ASSS , Behar and many other states which are striving for independence from INDIA.. Nice try needledick. Won't work. Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
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Christian Graus wrote: That's a bit weak and a long way from the justification for war, which was 'we know he has them and we know where they are'. Even if we knew where they were (I don't recall any CIA leaks that detailed exactly where the weapons were) it doesn't mean they would be in the same place after the war started. Christian Graus wrote: The point is not that if he says now he didn't have them that I'd believe him, but that there's a good chance that if he had them, he'd be able to be co-erced into saying where they are. We're still working on him. I said in a post a dew months back that Libya was a likely resting place for some of Saddam's arsenal. I am hopeful some of that transfer will come to light as we begin inspecting Libya's WMD. Christian Graus wrote: I guess you need to believe that, don't you ? For the zillionth time, I didn't vote for him. But in case you are truly ignorant about US election law and the constitution and not just saying things to be contrary, here is a link: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html#section1[^]
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What's the latest butt-scratch count? Check it out!Terry O`Nolley wrote: But in case you are truly ignorant about US election law and the constitution and not just saying things to be contrary You always give me too much credit :-) Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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While others believe that Iraq has something that an occupying power has been unable to prove despite having free run for how long ?, as well as the guy they claim hid them in custody, simply because the person who was not elected to run their country told them so. The USA is not evil, just a lot of people within the USA are pretty damn stupid. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Apparently I get voted down by morons for saying that the USA is not evil ???? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Ka?l wrote: I don't see how this could be an apology for the behaviour of ISI, especially with its relationship with Al-qaeda. Those Talibans + Al-Qaida were completely supported by USA to fight against Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Am i wrong ?? And ofcourse ISI was also involved in that war, so the ties of ISI with Talibans were since that time. After the war, USA left Afghanistan as a gift for Talibans. With the passage of time, the relations b/w Talibans and US were getting strained, however the relations b/w Talibans and ISI were not getting bad. Also USA betrayed Pakistan by taking the money for F-16s and then refuse to supply them. After September 11, even ISI left Talibans alone because of US pressure (yes there were some pro-taliban elements and still are). Also the relations b/w ISI and Taliban gang further worsen when those people were found responsible for killing French engineers in Pakistan. Those engineers were working in Pakistan on a joint Naval Sub-Marine project. However, French Government didn't closed the project and sent the new team. The project is complete now. France is a very important and sensitive friend of Pakistan and so ISI was unhappy with those killing of engineers. Now the condition is that ISI itself blames Taliban related elements for bombing Musharraf twice. May be whatever i wrote above is wrong. This is what my personal opinion after reading news papers, or media reports e.t.c.
Shah Shehpori wrote: Those Talibans + Al-Qaida were completely supported by USA to fight against Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Am i wrong ?? Yes. The Taliban did not exist until around 1995. The US left Afghanistan after the Russians did - i.e. around 1990. Thus, the Taliban never fought against the Russians. As far as Al-Queda goes, Osama Bin Ladin has always denied any support from the US (including during his fight against the Russians in the 1980s). ------------------------------------------ Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. In any debate, Hitler's opinion on the subject is automatically the evil one, so it had better be contrary to the side you're arguing.
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Brit wrote: But we don't allow felons to have guns. You don't?, then all those killings by guns each year are performed by law abiding citizens?, wow... Ok, I am certainly not for nuclear weapons, but it IS hypocrasy to ban other countries from having nukes while at the same time abstaining from getting rid of you own. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus
jan larsen wrote: But we don't allow felons to have guns. You don't?, then all those killings by guns each year are performed by law abiding citizens?, wow... Well, they aren't law abiding once they shoot someone. But, yes, felons are not allowed to buy guns. They do manage to get them through illegal channels, however. ------------------------------------------ Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. In any debate, Hitler's opinion on the subject is automatically the evil one, so it had better be contrary to the side you're arguing.
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Michael Martin wrote: we ... stroked ourselves into a group-think An admission vrs. Michael Martin wrote: as opposed to you who seems to have been stroking inside the underpants or maybe smoking the insides of your underpants. A simple insult. Good of you to either admit to engaging in group-think or in admitting you are too ignorant to understand what group-think is. Michael Martin wrote: Saddam was bad but not the worst dictator going around. I'm sure you are right. There are probably plenty of other dictators who dumped nerve gas on their own villages and killed hundreds of thousands of their citizens, invaded or attacked 4 of their neighbors and attempted to assasinate a former president of the US. Michael Martin wrote: He was in a part of the world with oil which is what y'all really give a sh*t about. Access to petroleum is a national security interest of all industrialized nations. I see you are trying to insult all Americans by interjecting the words "redneck" and "y'all" in places. Good to see you taking the high-road here! Michael Martin wrote: And he hadn't been able to get back anywhere near full strength militry or wacko wise meaning he was easier to beat than many of the other dictator lead regimes elsewhere in the world. We went after Saddam to gain a ground-force foothold in the heart of the middle east from which we can bring diplomatic and military pressure to bear on Syria and Iran. You can cry all you want but, even with a billion people like you in the world who act as advocates for people like Saddam Hussein, you won't stop the middle east from turning into a region that is free, democratic and intolerant of terrorism. You will benefit from this - even while you bitch and mewl about the process that will make this possible. I'm sure you'll get some great scores for your post though! Since you were engaging in childish flaming against an anti-Saddam person, you will be richly rewarded.
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What's the latest butt-scratch count? Check itGo get yourself a mouthful of dick so you can be happy again Terry. You have one thought, one song and no matter what is mentioned by anyone here you trot out the same old 'Your either with us or against us'/'Your a Hussein sympathiser' line. I'll go with bin Laden is worse than Hussein, has done more against the US than Hussein and he's still alive or so says your CIA. I expect to see everyone baying for Osama's blood and little Georgie going after him again. After all we don't want him repeating Daddy's mistake of not getting the bad man and allowing him to regroup and become a big bad danger again. When will the military in Iraq successfully quash the skirmishes currently killing US soldiers? You will need to perform this before Iran and Syria begin to worry about US presence in the general area. I ain't insy\ulting all Americans with the term redneck just brain dead monkeys such as yourself. If benefiting from all this shit means I have to listen to only one twat like you spew forth preprogrammed diatribe I'll pass thank you very much. So during your military stint did you were the leather pants, police biker gear or the indian head dress? Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003