java posts

Mr Cully

i have a question regarding a java client/server program im coding, where on this site shud i post it.... theres no java forum whcih seems funny to me?

John Kuhn

You might have noticed that this is predominately a Microsoft-oriented site... What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable . . . and yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? -- Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

Mr Cully

good point... im only gettin to grips with the ho;e concept of mircosoft lauguages... most college degrees dont teach much microsoft related stuff.... which im finding strange as 70% of the business market used them

John Kuhn

Hey, I learned Pascal, BASIC, FORTRAN and ANSI C/C++ in college... at least there are some employers looking for Java programmers! Still, the role of most college & university programs is to teach concepts: what is an algorithm? What is design? What is refactoring? A good student can later implement those ideas in any language. What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable . . . and yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? -- Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

Anonymous

yeah if ya know c everything really comes easy to ya anyway, ivbe been learning c++ java prolog sql etc but things like xml,xsl asp .net etc i have never stutied in college but got my first job a few days ago and im using all the above microsoft stuff... but i guess in college you get a grouding in most computer concepts such as network, operating systems, databases, algorithums and good programming style which is vital

John Kuhn

Anonymous wrote: but i guess in college you get a grouding in most computer concepts such as network, operating systems, databases, algorithums and good programming style which is vital for the most part true, but all of those things can be learned without going to college. What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable . . . and yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? -- Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

Kevin McFarlane

Yes, there's a lot of good programmers out there who either haven't been to college or didn't do computer science or even a so-called "numerate" degree. Kevin

John Kuhn

Please forgive me, but what in the heck is a "numerate degree". (I'z jest a po 'merican bo, I ain't nevr herd'a no "numerate" degrees. Ain't that what them scientists put on them there thermo-meters?) What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable . . . and yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? -- Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

Roger Wright

If I'm interpreting this site[^] correctly, in some parts of the world they use the term numerate[^] to refer to degree programs in the applied sciences. I had to look it up as, despite my perfectly functional vocabulary, I've never heard the term used before. As an adjective it means 'able to understand and use numbers' - how quaint.:laugh: Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...

Kevin McFarlane

Roger Wright wrote: in some parts of the world they use the term numerate to refer to degree programs in the applied sciences Yes it's quite commonly referred to in UK job requirements. They mean you must have a degree in a pure or applied science with a mathematics content. Kevin

John Kuhn

Ah, just so. BSEE/BSCE for example. Not that I've ever met one of those who could actually start writing code, "out-of-the-box" so to speak. ;) What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable . . . and yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? -- Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

John Kuhn

Yes, we also often read job postings that read like "The ideal candidate will have a Dual Ph.D. in Astrophysics and Computer Science, along with 15 years of relevant experience with J2EE, MSVC++, SQL2004, C#, .NET Framework, DreamWeaver MX, Adobe PhotoShop ..." What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable . . . and yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? -- Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.