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  • P Prakash Nadar

    Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.

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    David Wulff
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    Mr.Prakash wrote: I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. Most of the world thinks or has thought that along with you, including, sadly, an awful lot of hetero's who believe themselves to be in loving relationships. It's a defense mechanism, people prefer to think the whole world revolves around sex just because they do, or at least their perception of it does. (The presense of hetero sex in just about everything we see and hear of course doesn't help with that image!) Surely you didnt think so many people would be making such a fuss to get equality in the eyes of the law, etc, if all they were about was meeting up in innercity toilets for a quick fuck on the way back from work? :~


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    • P Prakash Nadar

      Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.

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      >I guess i was wrong about them And kudos to you for admitting it. As far as I am concerned a gay relationship is just as valid as a hetero one. Live and let live will always be my motto.


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        People are people, all the world over.

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        ColinDavies
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        That's quite a deep thought. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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        • P Prakash Nadar

          Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          Now convince your friends about this with your new found wisdom. Then *perhaps* we'll see a more tolerant society some day. :) -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!

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            People are people, all the world over.

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            Depeche Mode thinks so too.[^] -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!

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            • P Prakash Nadar

              Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.

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              Brad Jennings
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              I used to think the same way, and actually was very prejudiced against gay people. Since then, I have learned a lot about the subject, and now I accept and respect them as fellow men and women. In fact, there's a homosexual man that lives down the street from us that hangs out with us from time to time. The way I look at it, who you choose to love is your business, homo or hetero. It strikes me as strange when straight people are paranoid that homosexual people might be attracted to them. Why should it matter? If you're straight then nothing is going to happen (that you don't want to) right? The only thing I can figure is that they're not comfortable enough with themselves to not care what other people think of them. <edit>Or ignorant of the fact that being gay isn't all about sex, that love is involved just as in hetero relationships.</edit> Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99

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                Depeche Mode thinks so too.[^] -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!

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                Brad Jennings
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                Nice. Speaking of Depeche Mode, I think I'm going to break out some of their music tomorrow. I haven't listened to them in years.:) Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99

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                  Now convince your friends about this with your new found wisdom. Then *perhaps* we'll see a more tolerant society some day. :) -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!

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                  Prakash Nadar
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                  May be i should start with Bush.Jr

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                    Nice. Speaking of Depeche Mode, I think I'm going to break out some of their music tomorrow. I haven't listened to them in years.:) Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    I had a session last week :) I listened through pretty much all their material (including their new crap :() -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!

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                    • P Prakash Nadar

                      Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.

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                      Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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                        That's quite a deep thought. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                        ;P :-D

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                          Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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                          Stan Shannon wrote: Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. :laugh::laugh: Yer just a stick in the mud, Stan. :-D

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                            May be i should start with Bush.Jr

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            Good luck! :) -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!

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                              Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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                              Stan Shannon wrote: I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. That Stan, is probably the most bigoted thing I have ever seen you write. :( There a plenty of men/women who are serial sexual predators. These are the people who are in (very) short term realationships for sex only, and from what I have seen/heard its just a likely in either sexual orientation. Men tend to be worse, but then thats probably because women would normally suffer the physical consequences (i.e. babies) Most gay relationships have trust and caring as their base, just the same as heterosexual couples. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Roger Wright: Remember to buckle up, please, and encourage your friends to do the same. It's not just about saving your life, but saving the quality of life for those you may leave behind...

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                                Stan Shannon wrote: Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. :laugh::laugh: Yer just a stick in the mud, Stan. :-D

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                                LunaticFringe wrote: Yer just a stick in the mud, Stan. And proudly so. But my real problem is that I have this nagging habit of actually 'thinking'. "Oh, look at that nice young homosexual couple on CNN. Gee, I must have been completely wrong about those homosexuals all this time. But its not my fault, I just live in a horrible, hateful, capitalized, Chrisitanized world. It's all the fault of that awful George Bush. Wow! I'd better go out and vote for John Kerry to help change the world for the better!" :rolleyes: "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote: I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. That Stan, is probably the most bigoted thing I have ever seen you write. :( There a plenty of men/women who are serial sexual predators. These are the people who are in (very) short term realationships for sex only, and from what I have seen/heard its just a likely in either sexual orientation. Men tend to be worse, but then thats probably because women would normally suffer the physical consequences (i.e. babies) Most gay relationships have trust and caring as their base, just the same as heterosexual couples. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Roger Wright: Remember to buckle up, please, and encourage your friends to do the same. It's not just about saving your life, but saving the quality of life for those you may leave behind...

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                                  Roger Allen wrote: That Stan, is probably the most bigoted thing I have ever seen you write. Sorry to offend, but I refuse to mindlessly buy into all this new age group think. It is all very much like a religion ("thou shalt not be a bigot"), and every religion needs its heretics. Roger Allen wrote: Men tend to be worse, but then thats probably because women would normally suffer the physical consequences (i.e. babies) Which is exactly the point I believe deserves thoughtful consideration. Take women out of the picture, remove the moderateing influence they traditionally have on male behavior, and what do you get? Unrestrained male sexuality. That might be bigoted, but it is also a virtually inescapable conclusion. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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                                    Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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                                    Sociobiologists would agree with you on that one. Male sexuality unrestrained by women is likely to be more promiscuous than heterosexual relationships, which are in turn probably less stable than lesbian relationships. Can't find any papers on line to back this up (at least nothing that doesn't link to a creationist site..) it's probably pretty tricky to get funding for research of that nature without being compared to Dr Menglier. This has a chapter on the subject[^] Disclaimer, to avoid a knee-jerk lynching: Obviously, we are not monkeys, sociobiology can only apply statistcaly. I am sure lesbians can be sluts and gay men dedicated homemakers. Ryan

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                                      Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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                                      Stan Shannon wrote: male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships Ok Stan, I think I start to understand you a little bit. You are right that men are more promiscouos than women, also in men-men relations. Promiscuisity is considered to be a genetic advantage to men and disadvantage to women because women need a man to help her bring up her children. This promiscuisity I is dangerous in many ways. So, what is the best way to prevent it? Let them get married and live like a normal couple! jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854

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                                        Now convince your friends about this with your new found wisdom. Then *perhaps* we'll see a more tolerant society some day. :) -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!

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                                        One step at a time ? The tigress is here :-D

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                                          Sociobiologists would agree with you on that one. Male sexuality unrestrained by women is likely to be more promiscuous than heterosexual relationships, which are in turn probably less stable than lesbian relationships. Can't find any papers on line to back this up (at least nothing that doesn't link to a creationist site..) it's probably pretty tricky to get funding for research of that nature without being compared to Dr Menglier. This has a chapter on the subject[^] Disclaimer, to avoid a knee-jerk lynching: Obviously, we are not monkeys, sociobiology can only apply statistcaly. I am sure lesbians can be sluts and gay men dedicated homemakers. Ryan

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                                          http://www.heritage.org/research/features/familydatabase/detail.cfm?ID1=3454[^] "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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