How much at the pump?
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It's probably about $6.30 a gallon US The octane is 96 unleaded I think a big problem is that you have to take the fuel type into account. Like in some 3rd world places gasoline is worse than kerosene, or in Brazil it is mixed with alcohol and water Regardz Colin J Davies
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ColinDavies wrote: in Brazil it is mixed with alcohol and water Are you sure it isn't a separate gasoline? IIRC, there are both, the "standard" gasoline and the one made with alcohol.
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The thread below made me curious. How much do you pay at the pump? I pay $1.45 per gallon which ends up being around $40 to fill my tank (guess what type of vehicle I own). [Edit] 1 US gallon = 3.7854118 litre [/Edit]
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The thread below made me curious. How much do you pay at the pump? I pay $1.45 per gallon which ends up being around $40 to fill my tank (guess what type of vehicle I own). [Edit] 1 US gallon = 3.7854118 litre [/Edit]
I'm paying $1.769 per gallon of 93 octane. I think 87 octane is ~$1.569 but my car runs like crap on the lower octane fuel (it has a supercharger). Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99
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It's probably about $6.30 a gallon US The octane is 96 unleaded I think a big problem is that you have to take the fuel type into account. Like in some 3rd world places gasoline is worse than kerosene, or in Brazil it is mixed with alcohol and water Regardz Colin J Davies
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ColinDavies wrote: I think a big problem is that you have to take the fuel type into account. Definitely. I see a lot of people posting prices for 95+ octane and I've never seen above 93 octane at the pump here in the US. I have seen one place that sells 114 octane racing fuel but no street legal vehicle can run it (at least not well anyway). Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99
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I'm paying about $1.80/gallon here in South Florida. And to think that a couple of years ago it was around $1.25! Someone's getting very rich! :mad: Regards, Alvaro
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Alvaro Mendez wrote: And to think that a couple of years ago it was around $1.25! I can remember a time (my junior year of high school) when I filled up my tank at $0.729/gallon. Those were the days.:) Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99
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ColinDavies wrote: in Brazil it is mixed with alcohol and water Are you sure it isn't a separate gasoline? IIRC, there are both, the "standard" gasoline and the one made with alcohol.
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When I was last in Brazil, There were normally two bowsers "Alcool" and "Gasoline" From information from people in the oil industry there I was told that the gasoline often gets some blend of alcohol added, especially when there were production problems. At least in the remote parts of Brazil where I was, the consistency of fuel quality was a real big problem. With newer imported vehicles coming into Brasil I have heard they have had to upgrade fuel alternatives. Regardz Colin J Davies
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When I was last in Brazil, There were normally two bowsers "Alcool" and "Gasoline" From information from people in the oil industry there I was told that the gasoline often gets some blend of alcohol added, especially when there were production problems. At least in the remote parts of Brazil where I was, the consistency of fuel quality was a real big problem. With newer imported vehicles coming into Brasil I have heard they have had to upgrade fuel alternatives. Regardz Colin J Davies
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ColinDavies wrote: I think a big problem is that you have to take the fuel type into account. Definitely. I see a lot of people posting prices for 95+ octane and I've never seen above 93 octane at the pump here in the US. I have seen one place that sells 114 octane racing fuel but no street legal vehicle can run it (at least not well anyway). Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99
Brad Jennings wrote: I have seen one place that sells 114 octane racing fuel but no street legal vehicle can run it Brad, I have heard two seperate ways in which octane rating is calculated. One is via the heptane:iso-octane ratio. The other is via using a test engine to calculate to alter compression ratios and find where pre-igniting occurs.(This second way is complex) The guts of it is the first way will only ever give you a max 100 octane, the second way because of additives (including lead) can give a slightly higher figure maybe 104 (thus its an effective rating). What often confuses a lot of people is that AVGas, and AVTur gradings use numbers in the 100s because they are a totally different fuel for a different purpose, using different blends etc. So I'd be interested to know how they get the 114 octane rating they advertise, recently we have had a company here advertise an expensive additive that increases octane to 100, but unfortunately if the engine isn't designed for this their is no purpose in using it. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Brad Jennings wrote: I have seen one place that sells 114 octane racing fuel but no street legal vehicle can run it Brad, I have heard two seperate ways in which octane rating is calculated. One is via the heptane:iso-octane ratio. The other is via using a test engine to calculate to alter compression ratios and find where pre-igniting occurs.(This second way is complex) The guts of it is the first way will only ever give you a max 100 octane, the second way because of additives (including lead) can give a slightly higher figure maybe 104 (thus its an effective rating). What often confuses a lot of people is that AVGas, and AVTur gradings use numbers in the 100s because they are a totally different fuel for a different purpose, using different blends etc. So I'd be interested to know how they get the 114 octane rating they advertise, recently we have had a company here advertise an expensive additive that increases octane to 100, but unfortunately if the engine isn't designed for this their is no purpose in using it. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Interesting, I'll find out what brand of gasoline it is and get back to you. I'm sure others here in the soapbox would be interested as well so I'll post it here to, if I find anything. Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99
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Interesting, I'll find out what brand of gasoline it is and get back to you. I'm sure others here in the soapbox would be interested as well so I'll post it here to, if I find anything. Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99
Brad Jennings wrote: so I'll post it here to, if I find anything. That would be great, I'm seriously curious. For all I know they make have had a organic chem revolution and managed to add incredible additives. But I'm predisposed to believe it's an advertising trick. Note IMHO: Don't use a lower octane than your vehicle requires. But you can use a higher one, however it's unlikely to give benefits just cost more. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Brad Jennings wrote: so I'll post it here to, if I find anything. That would be great, I'm seriously curious. For all I know they make have had a organic chem revolution and managed to add incredible additives. But I'm predisposed to believe it's an advertising trick. Note IMHO: Don't use a lower octane than your vehicle requires. But you can use a higher one, however it's unlikely to give benefits just cost more. Regardz Colin J Davies
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ColinDavies wrote: Don't use a lower octane than your vehicle requires. But you can use a higher one, however it's unlikely to give benefits just cost more. I totally agree, using a lower octane fuel than your vehicle calls for can make it run like crap (and eventually damage your fuel injection system, if it has one). My vehicle calls for 93 octane and I ran 87 in it once or twice before I noticed, and it ran kindof crappy. It's disheartening to see how much more the higher octane fuel is at the pump but is definitely worth it in the long run IMO. Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99