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  • S scadaguy

    The company that I am currently working on-site at gave me a Boy Scout pledge card that I am required to turn in even if I don't want to donate. I don't even work for this company. The company I work for is doing a project for them that requires me to work on-site. I'm simply a contractor. There are obvious questions going through my mind right now. If it is required that I turn it in then it must be recorded some where. What are they using this information for? Should I be concerned or should I just give in?

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    Roger Wright
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    In some companies there is a lot of pressure brought to bear on department heads to demonstrate 100% participation in pet charity drives. Often there is some particular cause that the CEO is hot on, and the sycophants that work for him interpret this as a way to win favor. I used to get this kind of pressure at General Dynamics when United Way season rolled around. Unfortunately it tends to backfire, creating bad feelings toward the charity, even though the charitable agency is not to blame for, or even aware of the tactics used by the employer. I know from being a director of the local United Way that we don't keep records of donors other than names and companies, and this isn't public information. We also don't use it to solicit future donations, though we use the info to track levels of participation within companies. The data helps us to focus campaign efforts more effectively in companies where participation is low, and is useful occasionally when a new CEO doesn't want to hold an annual campaign - we can show him that his employees are very supportive of the program and will be expecting it. I'd just fill the form out with a $0.00 amount and return it, unless the political climate there is such that you have reason to expect that it will affect a contract renewal. If that's a serious concern, put yourself down for a nominal $1 a paycheck amount and write it off twice - a charitable donation, and an advertising or job hunting expense.:-D Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small

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      Brian Gideon wrote: I could just mark my donation as $0.00 and be done with it. But if I don't want to donate then why I do I have to turn it in to begin with? Because then they can make you feel guilty about it: "Oh Brian, you seem to have accidently written $0.00 on your card, did you mean to put a one in front of that." "No" "Oh, alright then" [glares disapprovingly - thinks "this guy must hate children or something"] It's peer-pressure

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      Lost User
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      Or emotional blackmail :mad: The tigress is here :-D

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      • S scadaguy

        The company that I am currently working on-site at gave me a Boy Scout pledge card that I am required to turn in even if I don't want to donate. I don't even work for this company. The company I work for is doing a project for them that requires me to work on-site. I'm simply a contractor. There are obvious questions going through my mind right now. If it is required that I turn it in then it must be recorded some where. What are they using this information for? Should I be concerned or should I just give in?

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        Jesse Evans
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        We get those every year at my work, from the United Way. They tell you to return it whether you choose to donate or not, but I always throw the card away. No one ever gave me grief about it. 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse

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        • R Roger Wright

          In some companies there is a lot of pressure brought to bear on department heads to demonstrate 100% participation in pet charity drives. Often there is some particular cause that the CEO is hot on, and the sycophants that work for him interpret this as a way to win favor. I used to get this kind of pressure at General Dynamics when United Way season rolled around. Unfortunately it tends to backfire, creating bad feelings toward the charity, even though the charitable agency is not to blame for, or even aware of the tactics used by the employer. I know from being a director of the local United Way that we don't keep records of donors other than names and companies, and this isn't public information. We also don't use it to solicit future donations, though we use the info to track levels of participation within companies. The data helps us to focus campaign efforts more effectively in companies where participation is low, and is useful occasionally when a new CEO doesn't want to hold an annual campaign - we can show him that his employees are very supportive of the program and will be expecting it. I'd just fill the form out with a $0.00 amount and return it, unless the political climate there is such that you have reason to expect that it will affect a contract renewal. If that's a serious concern, put yourself down for a nominal $1 a paycheck amount and write it off twice - a charitable donation, and an advertising or job hunting expense.:-D Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small

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          scadaguy
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          The United Way is great organization. I was on the UW committee at my previous place of employment and I really enjoyed it. Sure, we passed out pledge cards too, but we never forced anyone to return the cards or otherwise make them feel guilty in any way. We were still able to get about 90% participation year after year. You bring up a good point about the organization not knowing the tactics that companies use. I shouldn't punish the Boy Scouts because of this. Maybe I'll give them a little more than a $1.

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          • S scadaguy

            The company that I am currently working on-site at gave me a Boy Scout pledge card that I am required to turn in even if I don't want to donate. I don't even work for this company. The company I work for is doing a project for them that requires me to work on-site. I'm simply a contractor. There are obvious questions going through my mind right now. If it is required that I turn it in then it must be recorded some where. What are they using this information for? Should I be concerned or should I just give in?

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            Chris Meech
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            There is nothing in this world that will stop you from filling in the card with completely made up information, except your own morals. I have many aliases with very unusual addresses. Go ahead and use this one

            Name : Joe Schwartz
            Address : 123 Anywhere Street, Apartment 666.
            : The Burbs, Stateless, 91919.
            Phone : 123-456-7890

            I've never bothered with these schemes, that attempt to prey upon your guilty feelings. Chris Meech We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton VB is like a toolbox, in the hands of a craftsman, you can end up with some amazing stuff, but without the skills to use it right you end up with Homer Simpson's attempt at building a barbeque or his attempt at a Spice rack. Michael P. Butler

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              There is nothing in this world that will stop you from filling in the card with completely made up information, except your own morals. I have many aliases with very unusual addresses. Go ahead and use this one

              Name : Joe Schwartz
              Address : 123 Anywhere Street, Apartment 666.
              : The Burbs, Stateless, 91919.
              Phone : 123-456-7890

              I've never bothered with these schemes, that attempt to prey upon your guilty feelings. Chris Meech We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton VB is like a toolbox, in the hands of a craftsman, you can end up with some amazing stuff, but without the skills to use it right you end up with Homer Simpson's attempt at building a barbeque or his attempt at a Spice rack. Michael P. Butler

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              Chris Meech wrote: Phone : 123-456-7890 Hey that's my number! ;P Jeremy Falcon

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              • S scadaguy

                The United Way is great organization. I was on the UW committee at my previous place of employment and I really enjoyed it. Sure, we passed out pledge cards too, but we never forced anyone to return the cards or otherwise make them feel guilty in any way. We were still able to get about 90% participation year after year. You bring up a good point about the organization not knowing the tactics that companies use. I shouldn't punish the Boy Scouts because of this. Maybe I'll give them a little more than a $1.

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                Tim Craig
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                Brian Gideon wrote: I shouldn't punish the Boy Scouts because of this. No, you should punish them for their actual divisive policies... At any given instant there are considerably more assholes than mouths in the universe.

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                  Chris Meech wrote: Phone : 123-456-7890 Hey that's my number! ;P Jeremy Falcon

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                  JWood
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                  Mine is 555-1212


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                  • S scadaguy

                    The company that I am currently working on-site at gave me a Boy Scout pledge card that I am required to turn in even if I don't want to donate. I don't even work for this company. The company I work for is doing a project for them that requires me to work on-site. I'm simply a contractor. There are obvious questions going through my mind right now. If it is required that I turn it in then it must be recorded some where. What are they using this information for? Should I be concerned or should I just give in?

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                    brianwelsch
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                    Is it possible the person who gave you the card didn't realize you are not an employee for that company? BW CP Member Homepages


                    "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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                    • W Wjousts

                      Brian Gideon wrote: I could just mark my donation as $0.00 and be done with it. But if I don't want to donate then why I do I have to turn it in to begin with? Because then they can make you feel guilty about it: "Oh Brian, you seem to have accidently written $0.00 on your card, did you mean to put a one in front of that." "No" "Oh, alright then" [glares disapprovingly - thinks "this guy must hate children or something"] It's peer-pressure

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                      Brad Jennings
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                      That sort of peer pressure is ineffective on me. It just pisses me off. If they want to make people feel bad for not donating, they can suck it IMO. Brad Jennings Sonork: 100.36360 AIM: hongg99

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