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  • W Wouter Dhondt

    The biggest problem with recent email virusses is the mail virus scanner. Who the hell thought about the function to "return the virus mail to the sender"? They probably never heard of spoofing. Half of the mail I receive is a virus, or a virus scanner returning "the virus I've sent". I bet a lot of users that receive the returned mail will open it just to see what "they sent but can't remember". Thus infecting more users / sending more mails. In some rare cases, virus scanners will not return the virus itself, but some spam about the anti-virus product. So they are using the virus to send advertisements! Please, everyone that has one of these mail scanners, disable the return to sender function! ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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    got my 5!

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    • W Wouter Dhondt

      The biggest problem with recent email virusses is the mail virus scanner. Who the hell thought about the function to "return the virus mail to the sender"? They probably never heard of spoofing. Half of the mail I receive is a virus, or a virus scanner returning "the virus I've sent". I bet a lot of users that receive the returned mail will open it just to see what "they sent but can't remember". Thus infecting more users / sending more mails. In some rare cases, virus scanners will not return the virus itself, but some spam about the anti-virus product. So they are using the virus to send advertisements! Please, everyone that has one of these mail scanners, disable the return to sender function! ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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      James Pullicino
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      For every such message you receive, someone did not receive a virus. So even though its annoying, its effective overall.

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        For every such message you receive, someone did not receive a virus. So even though its annoying, its effective overall.

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        Wouter Dhondt
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        thought wrote: For every such message you receive, someone did not receive a virus. So even though its annoying, its effective overall. No it's not. It would be far more effective if they just blocked it and don't send it back. You forget to count every time a person reads the mail that has been "send back". The virus will spread even more. Yes, the people blocking the mail will be safe. They would also be safe if there scanner would not "send the mail back to the sender". ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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        • W Wouter Dhondt

          thought wrote: For every such message you receive, someone did not receive a virus. So even though its annoying, its effective overall. No it's not. It would be far more effective if they just blocked it and don't send it back. You forget to count every time a person reads the mail that has been "send back". The virus will spread even more. Yes, the people blocking the mail will be safe. They would also be safe if there scanner would not "send the mail back to the sender". ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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          James Pullicino
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          Wouter Dhondt wrote: It would be far more effective if they just blocked it and don't send it back No, it will be just as effective, but less annoying.

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            Wouter Dhondt wrote: It would be far more effective if they just blocked it and don't send it back No, it will be just as effective, but less annoying.

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            Wouter Dhondt
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            thought wrote: No, it will be just as effective, but less annoying. How do you mean? I think that sending more virusses over the net is not "just as effective". You're only looking from the user behind the virus software point of view. ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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            • W Wouter Dhondt

              thought wrote: No, it will be just as effective, but less annoying. How do you mean? I think that sending more virusses over the net is not "just as effective". You're only looking from the user behind the virus software point of view. ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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              James Pullicino
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              I think that I may have misunderstood your original post. Are you saying that some virus scanner is sending you emails with the virus still attached? If this is the case, then I agree with you completely. I have however never encountered a virus scanner that exibits this behaviour. Are you sure that the virus is still intact or has it maybe been replaced with, for example, a text attachment?

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                I think that I may have misunderstood your original post. Are you saying that some virus scanner is sending you emails with the virus still attached? If this is the case, then I agree with you completely. I have however never encountered a virus scanner that exibits this behaviour. Are you sure that the virus is still intact or has it maybe been replaced with, for example, a text attachment?

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                Wouter Dhondt
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                The complete virus mail is send as an attachment. So you can just open the mail and the virus if you want. ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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                • W Wouter Dhondt

                  The biggest problem with recent email virusses is the mail virus scanner. Who the hell thought about the function to "return the virus mail to the sender"? They probably never heard of spoofing. Half of the mail I receive is a virus, or a virus scanner returning "the virus I've sent". I bet a lot of users that receive the returned mail will open it just to see what "they sent but can't remember". Thus infecting more users / sending more mails. In some rare cases, virus scanners will not return the virus itself, but some spam about the anti-virus product. So they are using the virus to send advertisements! Please, everyone that has one of these mail scanners, disable the return to sender function! ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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                  Why not return an email asking them to configure their antivirus software to quarantine the email instead ? Elaine :rose: PS Bottom ! The tigress is here :-D

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                    Why not return an email asking them to configure their antivirus software to quarantine the email instead ? Elaine :rose: PS Bottom ! The tigress is here :-D

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                    Wouter Dhondt
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                    Trollslayer wrote: Why not return an email asking them to configure their antivirus software to quarantine the email instead ? :doh: Now why didn't I think of that instead of complaining? I'll prepare myself a nice and friendly mail. Trollslayer wrote: PS Bottom ! Yeah, seems I look like Eddie. Everyone calls me Eddie now. Thanks god I don't act like him! :-D ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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                    • W Wouter Dhondt

                      The biggest problem with recent email virusses is the mail virus scanner. Who the hell thought about the function to "return the virus mail to the sender"? They probably never heard of spoofing. Half of the mail I receive is a virus, or a virus scanner returning "the virus I've sent". I bet a lot of users that receive the returned mail will open it just to see what "they sent but can't remember". Thus infecting more users / sending more mails. In some rare cases, virus scanners will not return the virus itself, but some spam about the anti-virus product. So they are using the virus to send advertisements! Please, everyone that has one of these mail scanners, disable the return to sender function! ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."

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                      Omega501
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                      Tell me about it. I used to set this up for some of my smaller clients and also email a notice to me as an admin. This was alright until some of the newer virii started coming in @ hundreds per day - now i switch all emailed replies off and just check log files

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