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    Nadroj
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    wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? how many hertz does our brain operate on in communication with our eyes? im sure many of you xperience this... : after being on the comp till the wee hrs of morning and finally decide to go to bed, you lay down, lights off, and your eyes are going insane.. that cause ur eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor, for the past god knows how many hrs? ------------------------ Jordan. III

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      wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? how many hertz does our brain operate on in communication with our eyes? im sure many of you xperience this... : after being on the comp till the wee hrs of morning and finally decide to go to bed, you lay down, lights off, and your eyes are going insane.. that cause ur eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor, for the past god knows how many hrs? ------------------------ Jordan. III

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      Nadroj wrote: wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? it's not a "framerate", since we don't capture a whole image at a time like a CCD. rather, our eyes and brains have things like motion sensors, contrast sensors, color sensors and a bunch of other things all working together that our brains use to generate a composite image - what we "see". but wiki says the human "flicker threshold" is around 16hz. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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        wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? how many hertz does our brain operate on in communication with our eyes? im sure many of you xperience this... : after being on the comp till the wee hrs of morning and finally decide to go to bed, you lay down, lights off, and your eyes are going insane.. that cause ur eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor, for the past god knows how many hrs? ------------------------ Jordan. III

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        Nadroj wrote: eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor :omg: Set your refresh rate a little higher!!!:eek: Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small

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          Nadroj wrote: eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor :omg: Set your refresh rate a little higher!!!:eek: Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small

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          Nadroj
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          im @ my max, 85hz ------------------------ Jordan. III

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            wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? how many hertz does our brain operate on in communication with our eyes? im sure many of you xperience this... : after being on the comp till the wee hrs of morning and finally decide to go to bed, you lay down, lights off, and your eyes are going insane.. that cause ur eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor, for the past god knows how many hrs? ------------------------ Jordan. III

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            May I suggest looking at something else from time to time. Preferably something more than a few feet away and not emitting bright light. Your eyes will appreciate it. BW CP Member Homepages


            "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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              May I suggest looking at something else from time to time. Preferably something more than a few feet away and not emitting bright light. Your eyes will appreciate it. BW CP Member Homepages


              "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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              im sure they will.. u just bought a new desk, well for christmas, and its about 2ft from me, and thats the furthest it can go, unless i back up my chair... but that requires soooo much more work! :zzz: ------------------------ Jordan. III

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                im sure they will.. u just bought a new desk, well for christmas, and its about 2ft from me, and thats the furthest it can go, unless i back up my chair... but that requires soooo much more work! :zzz: ------------------------ Jordan. III

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                Buy a new monitor. You eyes adapt. Before i could not see any flickering on a 60Hz monitor, now i see plenty of the 75Hz. But my 21 inch monitor with hiz refresh rate of 100hz, is still ok, but for how long X| . Also Degauss your monitor. This also help sometimes.

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                  Buy a new monitor. You eyes adapt. Before i could not see any flickering on a 60Hz monitor, now i see plenty of the 75Hz. But my 21 inch monitor with hiz refresh rate of 100hz, is still ok, but for how long X| . Also Degauss your monitor. This also help sometimes.

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                  whoever you are and whatever monitor there will be flickering. no person can see it especially at 70hz+. im not saying i can actually see it flicker, im just saying that it IS flickering so much and my eyes do see it, but i dont actually see the blinking, no one can. edit: and from my eyes having so much strain, for seeing so much flickering for that length of time, after the monitor is off and the setting is so different (laying down, lights out, in bed) they are still trying to do as much work as they were doing when i was looking at the screen, and with all the flickering going on. ------------------------ Jordan. III

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                    wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? how many hertz does our brain operate on in communication with our eyes? im sure many of you xperience this... : after being on the comp till the wee hrs of morning and finally decide to go to bed, you lay down, lights off, and your eyes are going insane.. that cause ur eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor, for the past god knows how many hrs? ------------------------ Jordan. III

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                    You should make backgrounds red, and texts green. Or vice versa. Works wonders for your sanity. :rolleyes: Seriously, you should go have your eyes checked by an optician(?). I did, got a pair of glasses, and I have no problems at all with "flickering monitors" anymore. -- Futue te et ipsum caballum.

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                      wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? how many hertz does our brain operate on in communication with our eyes? im sure many of you xperience this... : after being on the comp till the wee hrs of morning and finally decide to go to bed, you lay down, lights off, and your eyes are going insane.. that cause ur eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor, for the past god knows how many hrs? ------------------------ Jordan. III

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                      I remember reading somewhere that once a given animation reaches a little over thirty frames per second, it appears continuous to the human brain - the brain "fills in the gaps" Jeremy Kimball

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                        You should make backgrounds red, and texts green. Or vice versa. Works wonders for your sanity. :rolleyes: Seriously, you should go have your eyes checked by an optician(?). I did, got a pair of glasses, and I have no problems at all with "flickering monitors" anymore. -- Futue te et ipsum caballum.

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                        *boot* Actually, there was a link posted on somethingawful a little while back that was even worse...red text on an animated flame gif background, completely botched spelling and capitalization, etc. I'll see if I can dig it up :) Jeremy Kimball

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                          You should make backgrounds red, and texts green. Or vice versa. Works wonders for your sanity. :rolleyes: Seriously, you should go have your eyes checked by an optician(?). I did, got a pair of glasses, and I have no problems at all with "flickering monitors" anymore. -- Futue te et ipsum caballum.

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                          Jeremy Kimball
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                          Heeeheehehee.....found it :) http://maxpages.com/sandman420[^] Watch for popups...put thy faith in Googlebar...

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                            Heeeheehehee.....found it :) http://maxpages.com/sandman420[^] Watch for popups...put thy faith in Googlebar...

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                            Chris Losinger
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                            holy crap. that is f'in awful. dig the little song he's got goin on tho. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                              wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? how many hertz does our brain operate on in communication with our eyes? im sure many of you xperience this... : after being on the comp till the wee hrs of morning and finally decide to go to bed, you lay down, lights off, and your eyes are going insane.. that cause ur eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor, for the past god knows how many hrs? ------------------------ Jordan. III

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                              Terry ONolley
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                              It doesn't work as frames per second. It operates on the difference between 1 perception and the next and the human brain's frequency is around 16 Hz.


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                                I remember reading somewhere that once a given animation reaches a little over thirty frames per second, it appears continuous to the human brain - the brain "fills in the gaps" Jeremy Kimball

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                                i remember hearing the same thing somewhere. it was on Dtv somewhere afew months ago.. discovery channel or techtv or somethign. ------------------------ Jordan. III

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                                  Heeeheehehee.....found it :) http://maxpages.com/sandman420[^] Watch for popups...put thy faith in Googlebar...

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                                  Ian Darling
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                                  :wtf: I didn't think pages like that still existed!


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                                    Heeeheehehee.....found it :) http://maxpages.com/sandman420[^] Watch for popups...put thy faith in Googlebar...

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                                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                    X| -- Futue te et ipsum caballum.

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                                      wut is our human eyes' (well, our brains') FPS? how many hertz does our brain operate on in communication with our eyes? im sure many of you xperience this... : after being on the comp till the wee hrs of morning and finally decide to go to bed, you lay down, lights off, and your eyes are going insane.. that cause ur eyes are too used to seeing so many frequent flickers of the monitor, for the past god knows how many hrs? ------------------------ Jordan. III

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                                      If this is happening, make sure the framrate of the monitor is at least 25Hz greater than the frequency of your mains supply. For example, in the UK we have 50Hz mains so I set my monitor refresh rate to 75Hz. This is because there is some flicker from the lighting and when you move your eyes the effect of this on the flicker from the monitor can produce effects at the dfiierence of the two, e.g. 60Hz - 50Hz gives a 10Hz flicker which means your eyes have trouble keeping focus as they move. Let me know how is goes. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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