Homosexuality related question
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Nishant S wrote: The natural conclusion is that homosexuality is an unnatural state of mine :laugh: That Freud can be a real bitch. ;P pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush
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Guys I am not against homosexuality and I certainly do not have a problem with single-sex marriages being given legal status. But I was just wondering as to homosexuality being natural. Assume homosexuality is a biological thing. But then it's very curious indeed that homosexuality (to my knowledge) is not found among similar mammals to man like apes and monkeys. Now assume it's a mental thing - this is now rather tricky. Because now the genes and hormones are out of it. A person becomes homosexual by discovery. But then it can be argued that he wouldn't have realized his homosexuality had he not already been aware of such a thing. Rather confusing indeed eh? The natural conclusion is that homosexuality is an unnatural state of mine a human being can slip into. Now while we need not think of it as being basically wrong, it's probably very much possible to revert someone's homosexuality by counselling or some such psychiatric treatment. The advantage would be that the person would now be able to do things as the majority of people would be doing. And since there are more heterosexual people out there, he/she has a much bigger pool now from which to choose his/her partner. Obviously this would be a better option for him/her unless he/she really likes to be the odd man out. BTW in my school ( a jesuit catholic school ), three students were suspended in Class 7 for indulging in homosexual activities in the school auditorium during a games break. Their parents were informed, they were severely reprimanded and all 3 of them suffered public humiliation and ended up as the subject of various gay jokes till they passed out of school. So I sorta grew up thinking homosexuality is a mental disease condition. Now, while I personally am not even remotely interested in anything homosexual, and even feel yucky when I think of it; I am fully okay with other people around me - colleagues, friends, family members being gay. Just because I am right-handed, I can't expect everyone else to be right-handed too, can I? Nish
Nish, in terms of gay people, think of it in terms of who they love. I think people focus on the 'sex' part of it and exclude that. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Nishant S wrote: The natural conclusion is that homosexuality is an unnatural state of mine :laugh: That Freud can be a real bitch. ;P pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush
He wouldn't be the first... The tigress is here :-D
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Try googling for the valid scientific research which challenges those theories. Such differences of opinion are common in any trully scientific field. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
I've seen bulls having a go at it. But then again, I'm not a scientiest, so maybe I just imagined the whole thing... :P -- Booohoo!
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I've seen bulls having a go at it. But then again, I'm not a scientiest, so maybe I just imagined the whole thing... :P -- Booohoo!
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: maybe I just imagined the whole thing... Or fantasized about it... sicko!! ;P "Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You don't stare at it. It's too risky. You get a sense of it and then you look away." Jerry Seinfeld
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Guys I am not against homosexuality and I certainly do not have a problem with single-sex marriages being given legal status. But I was just wondering as to homosexuality being natural. Assume homosexuality is a biological thing. But then it's very curious indeed that homosexuality (to my knowledge) is not found among similar mammals to man like apes and monkeys. Now assume it's a mental thing - this is now rather tricky. Because now the genes and hormones are out of it. A person becomes homosexual by discovery. But then it can be argued that he wouldn't have realized his homosexuality had he not already been aware of such a thing. Rather confusing indeed eh? The natural conclusion is that homosexuality is an unnatural state of mine a human being can slip into. Now while we need not think of it as being basically wrong, it's probably very much possible to revert someone's homosexuality by counselling or some such psychiatric treatment. The advantage would be that the person would now be able to do things as the majority of people would be doing. And since there are more heterosexual people out there, he/she has a much bigger pool now from which to choose his/her partner. Obviously this would be a better option for him/her unless he/she really likes to be the odd man out. BTW in my school ( a jesuit catholic school ), three students were suspended in Class 7 for indulging in homosexual activities in the school auditorium during a games break. Their parents were informed, they were severely reprimanded and all 3 of them suffered public humiliation and ended up as the subject of various gay jokes till they passed out of school. So I sorta grew up thinking homosexuality is a mental disease condition. Now, while I personally am not even remotely interested in anything homosexual, and even feel yucky when I think of it; I am fully okay with other people around me - colleagues, friends, family members being gay. Just because I am right-handed, I can't expect everyone else to be right-handed too, can I? Nish
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Nish, in terms of gay people, think of it in terms of who they love. I think people focus on the 'sex' part of it and exclude that. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Yes.
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Nish, in terms of gay people, think of it in terms of who they love. I think people focus on the 'sex' part of it and exclude that. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: in terms of gay people, think of it in terms of who they love. I think people focus on the 'sex' part of it and exclude that Then why am I only allowed to love one other person? I can love several people just as much as one! Watch, I can prove it just like those two guys over there can prove how they love one another. How is their love any better then mine? Why does society permit homosexual "civil-unions", but polygamy is frowned upon! :mad: That's blatant discrimination. Where's my lawyer! I smell a lawsuit somewhere! X| ~Nitron.
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Guys I am not against homosexuality and I certainly do not have a problem with single-sex marriages being given legal status. But I was just wondering as to homosexuality being natural. Assume homosexuality is a biological thing. But then it's very curious indeed that homosexuality (to my knowledge) is not found among similar mammals to man like apes and monkeys. Now assume it's a mental thing - this is now rather tricky. Because now the genes and hormones are out of it. A person becomes homosexual by discovery. But then it can be argued that he wouldn't have realized his homosexuality had he not already been aware of such a thing. Rather confusing indeed eh? The natural conclusion is that homosexuality is an unnatural state of mine a human being can slip into. Now while we need not think of it as being basically wrong, it's probably very much possible to revert someone's homosexuality by counselling or some such psychiatric treatment. The advantage would be that the person would now be able to do things as the majority of people would be doing. And since there are more heterosexual people out there, he/she has a much bigger pool now from which to choose his/her partner. Obviously this would be a better option for him/her unless he/she really likes to be the odd man out. BTW in my school ( a jesuit catholic school ), three students were suspended in Class 7 for indulging in homosexual activities in the school auditorium during a games break. Their parents were informed, they were severely reprimanded and all 3 of them suffered public humiliation and ended up as the subject of various gay jokes till they passed out of school. So I sorta grew up thinking homosexuality is a mental disease condition. Now, while I personally am not even remotely interested in anything homosexual, and even feel yucky when I think of it; I am fully okay with other people around me - colleagues, friends, family members being gay. Just because I am right-handed, I can't expect everyone else to be right-handed too, can I? Nish
Nishant S wrote: they were severely reprimanded and all 3 of them suffered public humiliation and ended up as the subject of various gay jokes till they passed out of school. So I sorta grew up thinking homosexuality is a mental disease condition. You grew up right then! Nishant S wrote: I am not against homosexuality and I certainly do not have a problem with single-sex marriages being given legal status. You should be. Why should they be given "legal-status", but I can only have 1 wife? I can love 12 people just as much as 2 guys love one another, and I can prove it just as validly as they can. Now the fixation on 2 people is totally arbitrary, why not leagalize group marriages? Why is incest wrong? Incest is no more wrong than homosexuality and if you even attempt to bring the Bible or moraliy into it, the argument blows away in the wind. ~Nitron.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: maybe I just imagined the whole thing... Or fantasized about it... sicko!! ;P "Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You don't stare at it. It's too risky. You get a sense of it and then you look away." Jerry Seinfeld
Moooooooo! ;P -- Booohoo!
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Citations please. [edit] Observations used to indicate that the sun went around the earth, but fortunantly, there were those who challanged those initial - politically charged - conclusions. [\edit] "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
There is a difference between observations about the sun and the earth and a pair of monkeys having sex. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress
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Trollslayer wrote: in terms of gay people, think of it in terms of who they love. I think people focus on the 'sex' part of it and exclude that Then why am I only allowed to love one other person? I can love several people just as much as one! Watch, I can prove it just like those two guys over there can prove how they love one another. How is their love any better then mine? Why does society permit homosexual "civil-unions", but polygamy is frowned upon! :mad: That's blatant discrimination. Where's my lawyer! I smell a lawsuit somewhere! X| ~Nitron.
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startNitron wrote: but polygamy is frowned upon Not by me. I made a point about pluralised unions the last time we had the whole civil unions debate. The gist of it was: a) There's no excuse to hold back the rights of one group (gays wanting to marry) because resolving the rights of another (polyamourists) is more complicated. b) Polygamy is traditionally associated with One Lucky Guy and his wives - who don't get to veto any additional ones. This cannot be considered just. A pluralistic marriage where all people consent to be legally bound to the others isn't a problem, just more complicated (because dissolving those relationships gets exponentially harder as you increase the number involved). c) Existing legal stuff, employment benefits, etc are detailed with a single partner in mind. Making that apply for homosexual relationships is easy. Making that apply for relationships where there are multiple partners :rolleyes:
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There is a difference between observations about the sun and the earth and a pair of monkeys having sex. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress
Interpreting observations to support some preconceived belief system, whether orbiting planets or sexual activity among primates is all to common through out history. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Ian Darling wrote: Bonobo Chimpanzees use homosexuality as a form of "social cement", apparently. So they, like, hang out in little jungle bathhouses? Give fashion advice to the non-gay bonobos? Stuff like that? "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stop advertising your obvious disgust about homosexuality, Stan, it discredits your arguements. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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Stop advertising your obvious disgust about homosexuality, Stan, it discredits your arguements. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
I can assure you that you are quite incorrect about that. My only true disgust is with intellectual dishonesty. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Stan Shannon wrote: Observations used to indicate that the sun went around the earth, but fortunantly, there were those who challanged those initial - politically charged - conclusions. And observations indicated that that conclusion was in error.
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Guys I am not against homosexuality and I certainly do not have a problem with single-sex marriages being given legal status. But I was just wondering as to homosexuality being natural. Assume homosexuality is a biological thing. But then it's very curious indeed that homosexuality (to my knowledge) is not found among similar mammals to man like apes and monkeys. Now assume it's a mental thing - this is now rather tricky. Because now the genes and hormones are out of it. A person becomes homosexual by discovery. But then it can be argued that he wouldn't have realized his homosexuality had he not already been aware of such a thing. Rather confusing indeed eh? The natural conclusion is that homosexuality is an unnatural state of mine a human being can slip into. Now while we need not think of it as being basically wrong, it's probably very much possible to revert someone's homosexuality by counselling or some such psychiatric treatment. The advantage would be that the person would now be able to do things as the majority of people would be doing. And since there are more heterosexual people out there, he/she has a much bigger pool now from which to choose his/her partner. Obviously this would be a better option for him/her unless he/she really likes to be the odd man out. BTW in my school ( a jesuit catholic school ), three students were suspended in Class 7 for indulging in homosexual activities in the school auditorium during a games break. Their parents were informed, they were severely reprimanded and all 3 of them suffered public humiliation and ended up as the subject of various gay jokes till they passed out of school. So I sorta grew up thinking homosexuality is a mental disease condition. Now, while I personally am not even remotely interested in anything homosexual, and even feel yucky when I think of it; I am fully okay with other people around me - colleagues, friends, family members being gay. Just because I am right-handed, I can't expect everyone else to be right-handed too, can I? Nish
Nishant S wrote: BTW in my school ( a jesuit catholic school ), three students were suspended in Class 7 for indulging in homosexual activities in the school auditorium during a games break. Were they Beautiful Young Lesbians or were they just a few faggy boys?
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Nishant S wrote: BTW in my school ( a jesuit catholic school ), three students were suspended in Class 7 for indulging in homosexual activities in the school auditorium during a games break. Were they Beautiful Young Lesbians or were they just a few faggy boys?
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: Were they Beautiful Young Lesbians or were they just a few faggy boys? It was a boys school :-) Nish
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