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  • M Mike Dimmick

    Logarithms in different bases can be done using the formula logy x = logz x / logz y So you can use the log or log10 function to produce an approximate log2 function:

    double log2(double val)
    {
    return log(val) / log(2.0);
    }

    Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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    The Lady of Shallots
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    Perfect! Thanks so much! "It seems that we're getting to the bottom of the barrel of squirrels." - my boss

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      Hello everyone, I was wondering if there was a way to calculate the log2 of a number. I know there are functions for calculating the ln, log and log10, but don't see one for log2...maybe I'm missing it or there's a way to calc it using one of the other functions? Thanks! "It seems that we're getting to the bottom of the barrel of squirrels." - my boss

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      toxcct
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      just a curiosity and "personal culture" question... what should we need a Base-2 log for ?? very thank you


      TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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        just a curiosity and "personal culture" question... what should we need a Base-2 log for ?? very thank you


        TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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        A whole world of it: Check on google log neperien In breif: Solving mathematical equations Mathematical modeling of the movement of protons Spatial Interpolation, Mechanical modeling Probability and statistics .... Papa while (TRUE) Papa.WillLove ( Bebe ) ;

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          A whole world of it: Check on google log neperien In breif: Solving mathematical equations Mathematical modeling of the movement of protons Spatial Interpolation, Mechanical modeling Probability and statistics .... Papa while (TRUE) Papa.WillLove ( Bebe ) ;

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          toxcct
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          wow woww stop it man, did you read my post ??? i didn't ask for log neperien (which is a Base-e log), but the need for having a log2 one !!!!


          TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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            wow woww stop it man, did you read my post ??? i didn't ask for log neperien (which is a Base-e log), but the need for having a log2 one !!!!


            TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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            Sorry for missreading your post log2 is used in music among others for as octave utility and for floating point arithmetics: "By knowing that the exponent and mantissa are both two's compliment values and also knowing that a floating point number is a very close approximation of the same number expressed in log2 form, a quick inversions and square roots can be implimented with simple functions. For example a quick inverse is calculated by negating the exponent and mantissa bits." Papa while (TRUE) Papa.WillLove ( Bebe ) ;

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              Sorry for missreading your post log2 is used in music among others for as octave utility and for floating point arithmetics: "By knowing that the exponent and mantissa are both two's compliment values and also knowing that a floating point number is a very close approximation of the same number expressed in log2 form, a quick inversions and square roots can be implimented with simple functions. For example a quick inverse is calculated by negating the exponent and mantissa bits." Papa while (TRUE) Papa.WillLove ( Bebe ) ;

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              toxcct
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              powerful ! (paweurfoul :-D:):cool::doh: thnk u vry much


              TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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              • T toxcct

                just a curiosity and "personal culture" question... what should we need a Base-2 log for ?? very thank you


                TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                toxctt wrote: what should we need a Base-2 log for ?? Since computers use base-2 numbers, binary logarithms come in very handy. For example, what is the next highest power of two for the number 79?

                int x = 1 + (int) log2(79); // assuming log2() returns a double

                If a binary tree has N nodes, what is the minimum number of levels in the tree? log2(13) + 1 yields the answer of 4. http://www.encyclopedia4u.com/b/binary-logarithm.html


                "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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                  toxctt wrote: what should we need a Base-2 log for ?? Since computers use base-2 numbers, binary logarithms come in very handy. For example, what is the next highest power of two for the number 79?

                  int x = 1 + (int) log2(79); // assuming log2() returns a double

                  If a binary tree has N nodes, what is the minimum number of levels in the tree? log2(13) + 1 yields the answer of 4. http://www.encyclopedia4u.com/b/binary-logarithm.html


                  "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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                  oh, that's nice ! lol but since it's very useful, how to find such expression ? did you find such by yourself, or with docs ?


                  TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                  • T toxcct

                    oh, that's nice ! lol but since it's very useful, how to find such expression ? did you find such by yourself, or with docs ?


                    TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                    David Crow
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                    toxcct wrote: oh, that's nice ! lol Are you laughing facetiously? toxcct wrote: how to find such expression ? What expression?


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                      toxcct wrote: oh, that's nice ! lol Are you laughing facetiously? toxcct wrote: how to find such expression ? What expression?


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                      DavidCrow wrote: Are you laughing facetiously? no, i promise you i find all these very nice... DavidCrow wrote: What expression? such expression : int x = 1 + (int) log2(79);


                      TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                      • T toxcct

                        DavidCrow wrote: Are you laughing facetiously? no, i promise you i find all these very nice... DavidCrow wrote: What expression? such expression : int x = 1 + (int) log2(79);


                        TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                        David Crow
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                        toxcct wrote: such expression : int x = 1 + (int) log2(79); I just made that statement up. A log2() function does not exist in the standard library, so if you needed one, it would have to be created.


                        "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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                          toxcct wrote: such expression : int x = 1 + (int) log2(79); I just made that statement up. A log2() function does not exist in the standard library, so if you needed one, it would have to be created.


                          "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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                          DavidCrow wrote: log2() function does not exist in the standard library yes, that was implicit and understood. what i want to know is about the entiere expression (int x = 1 + (int) log2(79);) ; did you find it after been documented, or by a thinking of your own ?


                          TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                            DavidCrow wrote: log2() function does not exist in the standard library yes, that was implicit and understood. what i want to know is about the entiere expression (int x = 1 + (int) log2(79);) ; did you find it after been documented, or by a thinking of your own ?


                            TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                            toxcct wrote: did you find it after been documented, or by a thinking of your own ? The latter. Since log2(79) is 6.3, I needed to take the integer part of that and add one, yielding 7. Thus 27 is 128, the next highest power of 2 for the number 79.


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                              DavidCrow wrote: log2() function does not exist in the standard library yes, that was implicit and understood. what i want to know is about the entiere expression (int x = 1 + (int) log2(79);) ; did you find it after been documented, or by a thinking of your own ?


                              TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                              Antti Keskinen
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                              This expression is a solution to the problem DavidCrow presented: "-- What is the next highest power of two for the number 79?" The expression first evaluates the power to which 2 must be raised to reach 79, then adds 1 to this. It all bases on the way logarithms are defined: "Base N logarithm from number Y will result in the power to which N must be raised to result in Y". Most obviously, he just made up a quick problem, and solved it, to give an example. So, he thought it on his own, made it up. -Antti Keskinen ---------------------------------------------- The definition of impossible is strictly dependant on what we think is possible.

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                                toxctt wrote: what should we need a Base-2 log for ?? Since computers use base-2 numbers, binary logarithms come in very handy. For example, what is the next highest power of two for the number 79?

                                int x = 1 + (int) log2(79); // assuming log2() returns a double

                                If a binary tree has N nodes, what is the minimum number of levels in the tree? log2(13) + 1 yields the answer of 4. http://www.encyclopedia4u.com/b/binary-logarithm.html


                                "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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                                Robert A T Kaldy
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                                Aaaarrrrgggghhh!! you really want to compute binary logarithm of integers with float logarithm function? I think that integer approach would be much much more quicker:

                                int log2(int x)
                                {
                                int lg;
                                // if (x <= 0) throw something...
                                for(lg = -1; x != 0; x /= 2, lg++);
                                return lg;
                                }

                                Robert-Antonio "Science is a differerntial equation. Religion is a boundary condition."

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                                  Aaaarrrrgggghhh!! you really want to compute binary logarithm of integers with float logarithm function? I think that integer approach would be much much more quicker:

                                  int log2(int x)
                                  {
                                  int lg;
                                  // if (x <= 0) throw something...
                                  for(lg = -1; x != 0; x /= 2, lg++);
                                  return lg;
                                  }

                                  Robert-Antonio "Science is a differerntial equation. Religion is a boundary condition."

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                                  Robert A. T. Káldy wrote: ...with float logarithm function The log2() function I demonstrated was theoretical. Were it to be implemented, ints would surely be used over doubles. Robert A. T. Káldy wrote: I think... But without actual metrics, we don't really know.


                                  "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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