A couple of questions for non-Americans
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Christian Graus wrote: But I've suspect that the US media would say such a thing constantly It is true. Very common. A typical usage (which can be heard many times during the day on many channels) goes like this: "A burb occurred because of foobar and jo somebody mentioned something and this is quite something and here we have America, the greatest nation in the history of the world, being ferfed by goople and zoked completely."
I find that really disturbing. There is no doubt that the USA is the world's most powerful nation, or that it has done good things in the world ( Hungry Jacks, Ozzy's solo career, etc. ). However, I don't see how it would be likely for people to be raised in such an environment to have a healthy worldview. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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- Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" In America, you hear that all the time as an aside from one talking head or another even when talking about seemingly unrelated topics. 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? In America every newscast talks about the stockmarket and other financial things. Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do.
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" Why would they? ;P "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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- Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" In America, you hear that all the time as an aside from one talking head or another even when talking about seemingly unrelated topics. 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? In America every newscast talks about the stockmarket and other financial things. Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do.
Terry O`Nolley wrote: Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" On the contrary: it seems that "internally" we love to cover ourselves with huge quantities of shit. Terry O`Nolley wrote: Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? Not constantly, but there's quiet always a moment for that. Terry O`Nolley wrote: the US does things that other countries really don't do. Oh yeah!
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- Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" In America, you hear that all the time as an aside from one talking head or another even when talking about seemingly unrelated topics. 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? In America every newscast talks about the stockmarket and other financial things. Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do.
Terry O`Nolley wrote: 1) Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" Not really. That would be seen as very arrogant and just a tad too nationalistic. Furthermore, what does "greatest" mean? Does it cover quantity, quality or both? If so, then what does it measure? Is it objective? Does anyone really care? Some "newspapers" (self proclaimed newspapers - I call them tabloids) often find some isolated quality in which Sweden happens to excel. Then they write something as "Sweden - world's #1" as headline. That's when you know there wasn't enough "quality news" to write articles about. Alternatively, the same papers write articles about how much we suck. I guess it all depends on the mood of the editor. Sure, I could from a personal perspective tell you that Sweden is the best country since sliced bread. But that doesn't mean that Sweden is the greatest country. It just means that I don't know the qualities of other countries. Basically, I'm ignorant. Terry O`Nolley wrote: 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? Only the american channels on cable does that. :rolleyes: Frankly, I wonder if anyone actually watches the tickers. Usually, there are two or three of them, scrolling in parallel, all with different speed. I get seasick watching such TV shows, even if I actively avoid looking directly at the tickers. I think it was MSNBC who had those damn tickers constantly during the attack on Iraq. CNN is less obtrusive. Terry O`Nolley wrote: Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do. Yep. You guys make your door knobs round (quite annoying in the middle of the night, trying to find the bathroom, if you're used to handles), grocery bags without handles (how the hell are you supposed to carry them if you've got more than 2?), everything "drive through" (are you really that lazy!?), and "mail in rebate" (it's not a rebate - it's a "mail us information about you which'll give us valuable statistics, and the means to bug you the rest of your life with ads, and we'll let you buy the product without any price markups" rebate). :) --
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- Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" In America, you hear that all the time as an aside from one talking head or another even when talking about seemingly unrelated topics. 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? In America every newscast talks about the stockmarket and other financial things. Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do.
1, No never. Extreme patriotism of that sort is usually saved for football matches. People don't even put the Union Jack or the St Georges Cross outside there houses unless there's a decent cup match involved or someone in the royal family died/got married/gave birth. 2, All the financial stuff started getting popular in the late 80's early 90's and now you can;t watch a news broadcast without it. There's a three there that you missed as well which is does the news mention the financial cost of everything that happens? and the answer for the UK is yes. pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" No way, they would be laughed to scorn. But I've suspect that the US media would say such a thing constantly. And the US school system. Terry O`Nolley wrote: Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? Nope, the stock market gets a brief mention, less time and effort than the weather. Terry O`Nolley wrote: Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do. Hell, yes. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: But I've suspect that the US media would say such a thing constantly. And the US school system. In my experience, only the pundits in the US media say this. It's very common on some right-wingers TV shows as part of some commentary. It would go something like this: "America is the greatest nation on earth, and these terrorists are trying to destroy it.... that's why we need to ...." The US school system does not. ----------------------------------------------------- Bush To Iraqi Militants: 'Please Stop Bringing It On' - The Onion
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:) Mine too!
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I find that really disturbing. There is no doubt that the USA is the world's most powerful nation, or that it has done good things in the world ( Hungry Jacks, Ozzy's solo career, etc. ). However, I don't see how it would be likely for people to be raised in such an environment to have a healthy worldview. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Ozzy's solo career LOL! I loved Bark at the Moon. Wonder what Jake E Lee is up to? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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- Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" In America, you hear that all the time as an aside from one talking head or another even when talking about seemingly unrelated topics. 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? In America every newscast talks about the stockmarket and other financial things. Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do.
Terry O`Nolley wrote: 1) Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" Not really. The only thing that would qualify would be hockey and that happens rarely like the olympics or world juniors or something like that. Terry O`Nolley wrote: 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? First I would have to watch news daily to find out, but what news that I have watched there have been the finicial part of the broadcast but that's a few minute blurb. There is rarely anything on the screen. Terry O`Nolley wrote: It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do. That would make America, America. Now I'm going to look up those hockey scores (Go Calgary :) )
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- Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" In America, you hear that all the time as an aside from one talking head or another even when talking about seemingly unrelated topics. 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? In America every newscast talks about the stockmarket and other financial things. Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do.
Terry O`Nolley wrote: 1) Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" Nope, not in India :-) There is no such thing as a "greatest nation" - and we all know it. Different countries are cool in different ways. Terry O`Nolley wrote: 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? Yup - all news shows somehow end up mentioning the stock market and rupee-dollar-euro rates etc. BTW one solution would be to outsource your media channel work to India ;-) Nish
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- Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" In America, you hear that all the time as an aside from one talking head or another even when talking about seemingly unrelated topics. 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? In America every newscast talks about the stockmarket and other financial things. Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do.
Terry O`Nolley wrote: 1) Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" I was about to say NO, but for some years ago the media, and the rest of us, boasted about how great our wellfare system was. Nowadays it's pretty obvious that this isn't true, the medical system in particular isn't in a very high standard. We post a lot of tax money into hospitals and such, but eg. Sweden gets much better results using far less resources. Some politicians are still using the term 'The best wellfare system in the world', they are usually from parties that wants to cut the expenses :rolleyes: Terry O`Nolley wrote: 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? Yes, but this is a new trend, I think it's not more than 2 years since that started. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus
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Terry O`Nolley wrote: 1) Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" Nope, not in India :-) There is no such thing as a "greatest nation" - and we all know it. Different countries are cool in different ways. Terry O`Nolley wrote: 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? Yup - all news shows somehow end up mentioning the stock market and rupee-dollar-euro rates etc. BTW one solution would be to outsource your media channel work to India ;-) Nish
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Nishant S wrote: one solution would be to outsource your media channel work to India I'm in favor of the idea!:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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- Does your media constantly say things like "(insert your country here) is the greatest country the world has ever known" or "(insert your country here) is the greatest nation in the history of the world" In America, you hear that all the time as an aside from one talking head or another even when talking about seemingly unrelated topics. 2) Does your everyday news broadcasts (not on special financial channels - on the regular news broadcasts) constantly mention the stock market numbers and how much interest rates are? In America every newscast talks about the stockmarket and other financial things. Just curious. It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do.
- No. If they did, they'd be laughed out of the country. *not sure what that say about us* :~ 2) Nope. They get a brief mention in the local news, that's all. Terry O`Nolley wrote: It suddenly struck me that maybe the US does things that other countries really don't do Only know do you realize this. ;)
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Nishant S wrote: one solution would be to outsource your media channel work to India I'm in favor of the idea!:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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I find that really disturbing. There is no doubt that the USA is the world's most powerful nation, or that it has done good things in the world ( Hungry Jacks, Ozzy's solo career, etc. ). However, I don't see how it would be likely for people to be raised in such an environment to have a healthy worldview. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: I don't see how it would be likely for people to be raised in such an environment to have a healthy worldview. Many don't. Most people I know listen to sound bites or read quick captions under a photo, and thats the extent of their "catching up on world events". You can discuss the major topics that the media deems are newsworthy with most, but events effecting other nations primarily are not mentioned at all or just in passing. I think people would be interested if could be spoon-fed the info for long enough to get into the swing of the game. It'd be like me jumping into the middle of a rugby match and trying to follow along. I can guess at what I'm looking at, but essentially I have no clue what the rules are, nor do I have a favorite side. So I'll flip the channel and watch more baseball instead. I'm familiar with that at least. It's not an easy thing to change. BW The Biggest Loser
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Ozzy's solo career LOL! I loved Bark at the Moon. Wonder what Jake E Lee is up to? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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