isn't the military capable?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3744489.stm[^] A private contractor getting $10,000 a month, while the regular soldier makes about 3 times that per yrs. Are these private contractors really supermen, who are capable of services the military can't provide? I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother. by the way, perl stinks.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3744489.stm[^] A private contractor getting $10,000 a month, while the regular soldier makes about 3 times that per yrs. Are these private contractors really supermen, who are capable of services the military can't provide? I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother. by the way, perl stinks.
This is - like it says in the article - a way of keeping the official casualty toll down for the public. There are also reports of illegal Hispanics from Mexico, used with the promise of citizenship for good soldiering. And Special Forces, intelligence agency casualties are also not revealed. There are lots of grey areas to hide the bodybags. ----------------------------- All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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This is - like it says in the article - a way of keeping the official casualty toll down for the public. There are also reports of illegal Hispanics from Mexico, used with the promise of citizenship for good soldiering. And Special Forces, intelligence agency casualties are also not revealed. There are lots of grey areas to hide the bodybags. ----------------------------- All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Jeff Bogan wrote: like it says in the article - a way of keeping the official casualty toll down for the public. I think that might have been the ploy originally. eg Have uncountables taking the heat of the stats. But the situation has got out of control. I personally know a guy on NZ $1,200 a day in Iraq, who claims that the contractors are getting the worst jobs, and without support like the military have. Regardz Colin J Davies
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3744489.stm[^] A private contractor getting $10,000 a month, while the regular soldier makes about 3 times that per yrs. Are these private contractors really supermen, who are capable of services the military can't provide? I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother. by the way, perl stinks.
mystro_AKA_kokie wrote: A private contractor getting $10,000 a month, while the regular soldier makes about 3 times that per yrs. Are these private contractors really supermen, who are capable of services the military can't provide? Soldiers go where they are told to go. $10,000/mo. seems to be required to goad civilians to work there. Personally, I wouldn't work there for $10,000/day the way things are looking right now. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
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This is - like it says in the article - a way of keeping the official casualty toll down for the public. There are also reports of illegal Hispanics from Mexico, used with the promise of citizenship for good soldiering. And Special Forces, intelligence agency casualties are also not revealed. There are lots of grey areas to hide the bodybags. ----------------------------- All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Jeff Bogan wrote: There are also reports of illegal Hispanics from Mexico, used with the promise of citizenship for good soldiering. Am sorry, but that's funny..:laugh: I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother. by the way, perl stinks.
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Jeff Bogan wrote: like it says in the article - a way of keeping the official casualty toll down for the public. I think that might have been the ploy originally. eg Have uncountables taking the heat of the stats. But the situation has got out of control. I personally know a guy on NZ $1,200 a day in Iraq, who claims that the contractors are getting the worst jobs, and without support like the military have. Regardz Colin J Davies
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**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
ColinDavies wrote: on NZ $1,200 a day in Iraq Is that about US$50 ? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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ColinDavies wrote: on NZ $1,200 a day in Iraq Is that about US$50 ? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Don't get cheeky with me Christian. You know darn well its closer to 60$ US. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3744489.stm[^] A private contractor getting $10,000 a month, while the regular soldier makes about 3 times that per yrs. Are these private contractors really supermen, who are capable of services the military can't provide? I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother. by the way, perl stinks.
It takes time to get someone experienced enough for a lot of this work so you have to get ex forces people in or keep a larger standing army. All a draft does is get you inexperienced people who need all the training. The tigress is here :-D
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3744489.stm[^] A private contractor getting $10,000 a month, while the regular soldier makes about 3 times that per yrs. Are these private contractors really supermen, who are capable of services the military can't provide? I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother. by the way, perl stinks.
I'm a contractor for the US government (though not in Iraq). Usually the contractors make more money but they are also usually better trained. The usual goal is to get hired as a contractor then move into the government eventually where you get a good pension and can do anything just about without getting fired. We have guys here that make $80k US a year and don't do anything but they can't be fired for some reason. Most of the time has to do with the government being afraid of getting slapped with a discrimination lawsuit from a person (male, female, black, white, young, old, religious, secular, doesn't matter. Anybody can find a reason to sue and probably win). What this leads to is the government hires more contractors to hide the increasing cost of government since they can show the civil service headcount (doesn't include contractors) going down. The remaining civil service people hate the contractors for taking the jobs they don't want to do and hoard information and are generally uncooperative at the best. Throw military personnel in there with their own agenda and you end up with a very inefficient system. One that most people aren't willing to put up with unless you pay them a lot more money. Hence, the high price tag of contractors in general and especially Iraq. It applies to any warzone as well. I knew a guy who went to Kosovo and did 3 years. Nothing to spend money on over there, no taxes, he came home with over $300,000 US in the bank. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3744489.stm[^] A private contractor getting $10,000 a month, while the regular soldier makes about 3 times that per yrs. Are these private contractors really supermen, who are capable of services the military can't provide? I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother. by the way, perl stinks.
mystro_AKA_kokie wrote: A private contractor getting $10,000 a month, while the regular soldier makes about 3 times that per yrs. Are these private contractors really supermen, who are capable of services the military can't provide? Surely you already know this so forgive me if I am answering as if you are really this ignorant. 1) The army is made up of specific units with specific TO&Es 2) The army doesn't rip apart units to fill holes needed in some specific place. for example, if the 82nd airborne was tasked with digging a huge ditch, the army wouldn't steal digging equipment from all of the other units to give them to the 82nd. If they did, then all of those other units would be unable to fulfill their combat ditch digging missions if called upon. In this example, the 82nd airborne would contract out digging machines from civilians for the duration of the project. 3) The high pay we give the contractors is temporary. If the military were to maintain a floating ditch-digging unit large enough to handle any digging task in the world staffed entirely of soldiers they would need to spend money for the equipment, the maintenance facilities, the barracks, the training the meals, etc, etc, etc, as well as work into the army's overall command structure the supporting documentation explaining the need to have a special ditch digging unit capable of digging any ditch anywhere in the world on short notice. THis new unit would need congressional budgetary approval. All of this is FAR more expensive than temproarily hiring contractors to do the digging. SOme idiots might imply that we hire contractors to hide the body counts. That is so stupid that I pity any conspiracy freak idiot who espouses it.
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