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Germanys Economy is deep in the gutter, and I am not the least surprised how bad it ranks. However, since you already know that it's all the fault of the evil Eurocrats (and the french (and the commies) ), you are probably not interested in the illusions I use to explain this reality away. :doh:
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Having visited both Germany and Arkansas I think it's fairly accurate. As a visitor what normally distorts the view is the gaps between rich and poor. A lot of Europeans seem to like to think their standard of living compares with the USA, but in reality it lags a long way behind. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Isn't it amazing how us dumb 'ol Amurcans just keep kicking the ass of those brainiac Urapeuns? God, I love it - what a bunch of dopes, all these centuries later and they still don't have a clue. :laugh:
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Isn't it amazing how us dumb 'ol Amurcans just keep kicking the ass of those brainiac Urapeuns? God, I love it - what a bunch of dopes, all these centuries later and they still don't have a clue. :laugh:
Stan Shannon wrote: God, I love it - what a bunch of dopes, all these centuries later and they still don't have a clue. Well, we (and the Canadians) seem to do much better at healthcare by a long way. Our GDP might be lower, but we're also spending a lot less of it on healthcare and not doing particularly worse (and can provide access to healthcare for everyone, unlike the US). US healthcare might be fantastic if you're loaded with cash, but if you ain't, you're stuffed. http://www.bopnews.com/archives/000800.html[^] Conclusion, anyone with an internet connection can search for some stats that show how much better someplace is over someplace else.
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Stan Shannon wrote: God, I love it - what a bunch of dopes, all these centuries later and they still don't have a clue. Well, we (and the Canadians) seem to do much better at healthcare by a long way. Our GDP might be lower, but we're also spending a lot less of it on healthcare and not doing particularly worse (and can provide access to healthcare for everyone, unlike the US). US healthcare might be fantastic if you're loaded with cash, but if you ain't, you're stuffed. http://www.bopnews.com/archives/000800.html[^] Conclusion, anyone with an internet connection can search for some stats that show how much better someplace is over someplace else.
I have no complaints about healthcare in the States and I'm probably considered lower middle-class.
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Stan Shannon wrote: God, I love it - what a bunch of dopes, all these centuries later and they still don't have a clue. Well, we (and the Canadians) seem to do much better at healthcare by a long way. Our GDP might be lower, but we're also spending a lot less of it on healthcare and not doing particularly worse (and can provide access to healthcare for everyone, unlike the US). US healthcare might be fantastic if you're loaded with cash, but if you ain't, you're stuffed. http://www.bopnews.com/archives/000800.html[^] Conclusion, anyone with an internet connection can search for some stats that show how much better someplace is over someplace else.
Actually when it comes to innovation the US leads the world by a huge margin. One of the primary reasons that US health care cost so much is that it is subsidizing most of the other OECD countries drug plans and paying for an increasing percentage of new medical technologies and drug research. If the Americans ever put a cap on drug prices like Canada and most of Europe the research into new medical drugs would dry up overnight and go into lifestyle drugs (think Viagra and Rogaine) where the drug companies can charge whatever they like. Of course if the US ever passed a law that required selling it in the US for the average price that it is sold for in the OECD countries I think a lot of drugs would quickly become available only in the US. As for the Canadians doing much better in health care - when my mother was diagnosed with cancer my first thought was "How quick can I get her down to the States for a full workup?" It sure is great to have that much confidence in your health care system. Dave
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LOL!!! :laugh: Regards, Rohit Sinha
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Actually when it comes to innovation the US leads the world by a huge margin. One of the primary reasons that US health care cost so much is that it is subsidizing most of the other OECD countries drug plans and paying for an increasing percentage of new medical technologies and drug research. If the Americans ever put a cap on drug prices like Canada and most of Europe the research into new medical drugs would dry up overnight and go into lifestyle drugs (think Viagra and Rogaine) where the drug companies can charge whatever they like. Of course if the US ever passed a law that required selling it in the US for the average price that it is sold for in the OECD countries I think a lot of drugs would quickly become available only in the US. As for the Canadians doing much better in health care - when my mother was diagnosed with cancer my first thought was "How quick can I get her down to the States for a full workup?" It sure is great to have that much confidence in your health care system. Dave
DRHuff wrote: Actually when it comes to innovation the US leads the world by a huge margin. One of the primary reasons that US health care cost so much is that it is subsidizing most of the other OECD countries drug plans and paying for an increasing percentage of new medical technologies and drug research. If the Americans ever put a cap on drug prices like Canada and most of Europe the research into new medical drugs would dry up overnight and go into lifestyle drugs (think Viagra and Rogaine) where the drug companies can charge whatever they like. Cite? I've seen that claimed elsewhere, but never the paper to back it up. (The UK having a healthy pharmaceutacals industry should also indicate otherwise) Plus the cap on drug prices (ie, the prescription) here is the cost to the patient, not how much the pharmaceutacal companies get paid for the drugs (of course, the health service being a monopoly customer can probably pay less to the pharmas than they might otherwise, but that's just economics). If I have to have expensive drugs for an illness, my National Insurance contributions pay for the bulk of that cost, and I pay a standard £6 fee for each course. Of course, most drugs we'll need will cost less than that free because they're standard and cheaper to produce now. DRHuff wrote: As for the Canadians doing much better in health care - when my mother was diagnosed with cancer my first thought was "How quick can I get her down to the States for a full workup?" It sure is great to have that much confidence in your health care system. You kind of misread my point there. I agree that US health care can be the best in the world - but only if you've got the cash to pay for it. We see it on the news here every now and again - people need to raise thousands and thousands of pounds to get really specialist operations/treatment performed in the States, because it's so rare that the health service here doesn't provide the facilities (because it would be amongst other things, uneconomical to). But we provide a good level of service without the same level of costs incurred, across the whole population.
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This report from Timbro, "the free-market think-tank of Swedish enterprise" - Ô Surprise - make strange conclusions, pretending the economic jungle economic freedom is the best solution (with the supposition GDP is the accurate and only criteria to make comparison between countries). So let's have a look to this study, and particularly let's compare two countries similar in population but with totally different politics, UK and France. One was thatcherized and is the european symbol of the free market as the leading philosophy, the other has a strong public sector and a higher social welfare.
"As an American state, the UK would come fifth among the poorest. Only central London, with a per capita GDP some 18 per cent over the US average, comes off well in a comparison. All other regions, on the whole, have a per capita GDP approaching that of the poorest state in the USA." "France as a state of the USA would be fifth poorest. Only the Île de France region exceeds by average US per capita GDP, by some 18 per cent. Otherwise all regions rank with the poorest states of the USA."'nough said.
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Actually when it comes to innovation the US leads the world by a huge margin. One of the primary reasons that US health care cost so much is that it is subsidizing most of the other OECD countries drug plans and paying for an increasing percentage of new medical technologies and drug research. If the Americans ever put a cap on drug prices like Canada and most of Europe the research into new medical drugs would dry up overnight and go into lifestyle drugs (think Viagra and Rogaine) where the drug companies can charge whatever they like. Of course if the US ever passed a law that required selling it in the US for the average price that it is sold for in the OECD countries I think a lot of drugs would quickly become available only in the US. As for the Canadians doing much better in health care - when my mother was diagnosed with cancer my first thought was "How quick can I get her down to the States for a full workup?" It sure is great to have that much confidence in your health care system. Dave
DRHuff wrote: One of the primary reasons that US health care cost so much is that it is subsidizing most of the other OECD countries drug plans and paying for an increasing percentage of new medical technologies and drug research. If the Americans ever put a cap on drug prices like Canada and most of Europe the research into new medical drugs would dry up overnight and go into lifestyle drugs (think Viagra and Rogaine) where the drug companies can charge whatever they like. Seriously I think if that if 1/2 that was true the US would have a perfect case for the WTO. I having been doing some business here for a local company that distributes international brand drugs. Yes they are at times a fifth of the price of the US. One reason for this is "dumping". Another reason is that US distributors at times seem to have massive margins. The best proof of this is with J&J who control all their own networks, thus their prices appear to be globally uniform. Totally different to the others. Regardz Colin J Davies
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1. Re-unification plus a population bulge has hit Germany very hard, they have a demograhpic time bomb going off right now. 2. If you want to be selective, look at how many people get shot dead per capita. The tigress is here :-D
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Stan Shannon wrote: God, I love it - what a bunch of dopes, all these centuries later and they still don't have a clue. Well, we (and the Canadians) seem to do much better at healthcare by a long way. Our GDP might be lower, but we're also spending a lot less of it on healthcare and not doing particularly worse (and can provide access to healthcare for everyone, unlike the US). US healthcare might be fantastic if you're loaded with cash, but if you ain't, you're stuffed. http://www.bopnews.com/archives/000800.html[^] Conclusion, anyone with an internet connection can search for some stats that show how much better someplace is over someplace else.
I earn average wages for my city, and have always had ample coverage to meet my healthcare needs. While I was unemployed I had reasonable options to cover major medical needs. BW The Biggest Loser
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It's not a very fair comparison. You have to compare overall quality of life, not simply who owns a car, or makes a higher dollar figure. BW The Biggest Loser
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