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    Just in case it's news still, the Senate voted to scuttle the Gay Marriage Banning Amendment today, 48-50. Six Republicans broke ranks and voted against it, including a man who is rapidly gaining even more of my respect, The Hon. Mr. McCain of Arizona... http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A49537-2004Jul14%20¬Found=true[^]


    Jeremy Kimball I have traveled the gutters, lo these many days, with no signs of life. Well met. -brianwelsch

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      Just in case it's news still, the Senate voted to scuttle the Gay Marriage Banning Amendment today, 48-50. Six Republicans broke ranks and voted against it, including a man who is rapidly gaining even more of my respect, The Hon. Mr. McCain of Arizona... http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A49537-2004Jul14%20¬Found=true[^]


      Jeremy Kimball I have traveled the gutters, lo these many days, with no signs of life. Well met. -brianwelsch

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      "No one wants to discriminate against gays," responded Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah). "Simply put, we want to preserve traditional marriage." What a moron. He contradicts himself in just two sentences. -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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        Just in case it's news still, the Senate voted to scuttle the Gay Marriage Banning Amendment today, 48-50. Six Republicans broke ranks and voted against it, including a man who is rapidly gaining even more of my respect, The Hon. Mr. McCain of Arizona... http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A49537-2004Jul14%20¬Found=true[^]


        Jeremy Kimball I have traveled the gutters, lo these many days, with no signs of life. Well met. -brianwelsch

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        Chris Losinger
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        thank NSCD* for that. now let's see the Republicans take their silly "culture war" meme and run with it during the election. it worked out so well in '92. * - Non-Specific-Ceremonial-Deity Software | Cleek

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          "No one wants to discriminate against gays," responded Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah). "Simply put, we want to preserve traditional marriage." What a moron. He contradicts himself in just two sentences. -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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          Yeah that's the Republican Platform line on that issue. What was it one of our CPian Republican supporters posted just recently about Kerry? Something about "talking out both sides of his mouth" They also want "less government". So "less government" == "new legislation about who you can marry"? On what fargen planet does that logic work? Let's run "Less Government" through our Republican Translation engine and see what we get. "Less regulations on big business making it easier for them to screw the little people and the environment over on their way to making millions for the richest 1% of the population." Apparently that is so easy for them to do that they have plenty of time left over to be worried about who you have sex with. Ok... where is my puke bucket?

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            Yeah that's the Republican Platform line on that issue. What was it one of our CPian Republican supporters posted just recently about Kerry? Something about "talking out both sides of his mouth" They also want "less government". So "less government" == "new legislation about who you can marry"? On what fargen planet does that logic work? Let's run "Less Government" through our Republican Translation engine and see what we get. "Less regulations on big business making it easier for them to screw the little people and the environment over on their way to making millions for the richest 1% of the population." Apparently that is so easy for them to do that they have plenty of time left over to be worried about who you have sex with. Ok... where is my puke bucket?

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            palbano wrote: "Less regulations on big business making it easier for them to screw the little people and the environment over on their way to making millions for the richest 1% of the population." It's interesting to see average Joe, who is one of the ones being screwed over, vote for them. It's on par with smoking. :rolleyes: -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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              palbano wrote: "Less regulations on big business making it easier for them to screw the little people and the environment over on their way to making millions for the richest 1% of the population." It's interesting to see average Joe, who is one of the ones being screwed over, vote for them. It's on par with smoking. :rolleyes: -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: It's interesting to see average Joe, There are 10 kinds of Republicans, Rich ones and Idiots.

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                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: It's interesting to see average Joe, There are 10 kinds of Republicans, Rich ones and Idiots.

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                And neither type knows binary numbers? ;) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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                  thank NSCD* for that. now let's see the Republicans take their silly "culture war" meme and run with it during the election. it worked out so well in '92. * - Non-Specific-Ceremonial-Deity Software | Cleek

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                  Chris Losinger wrote: NSCD* :laugh: I like that one. of course this means I'm nicking it. pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush

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                    palbano wrote: "Less regulations on big business making it easier for them to screw the little people and the environment over on their way to making millions for the richest 1% of the population." It's interesting to see average Joe, who is one of the ones being screwed over, vote for them. It's on par with smoking. :rolleyes: -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: It's interesting to see average Joe, who is one of the ones being screwed over, vote for them. Unfurtunately there are many who do. They are refered to as cultural conservatives(people who vote against their own economic interest:)). Even more interesting, is the fact that the republican party has not made any progress with conservative agendas, yet the christian right doesn't realize it. They merely serve as road bumps against progressive moves. I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother. by the way, perl stinks.

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                      Just in case it's news still, the Senate voted to scuttle the Gay Marriage Banning Amendment today, 48-50. Six Republicans broke ranks and voted against it, including a man who is rapidly gaining even more of my respect, The Hon. Mr. McCain of Arizona... http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A49537-2004Jul14%20¬Found=true[^]


                      Jeremy Kimball I have traveled the gutters, lo these many days, with no signs of life. Well met. -brianwelsch

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                      Jeremy Kimball wrote: including a man who is rapidly gaining even more of my respect, The Hon. Mr. McCain of Arizona... Indeed. While I don't agree with him on everything, he is definitely an independent thinker. He won't go along with something stupid just becuase Republicans happen to promote it. Too bad both parties tend to accumulate lackeys rather than people with common sense... :( "Fish and guests stink in three days." - Benjamin Franlkin

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                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: It's interesting to see average Joe, There are 10 kinds of Republicans, Rich ones and Idiots.

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                        palbano wrote: There are 10 kinds of Republicans, Rich ones and Idiots. For a tree-hugging "love your neighbor" type Democrat, you sure are judgemental. "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                          thank NSCD* for that. now let's see the Republicans take their silly "culture war" meme and run with it during the election. it worked out so well in '92. * - Non-Specific-Ceremonial-Deity Software | Cleek

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                          Where does Kerry stand on this issue.... today? ;) "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                            Where does Kerry stand on this issue.... today? ;) "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                            Seems the candidates didn't make it back to town to vote. Clickety[^]

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                              palbano wrote: There are 10 kinds of Republicans, Rich ones and Idiots. For a tree-hugging "love your neighbor" type Democrat, you sure are judgemental. "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                              Hi Mike, sure I can be judgmental in the strictest definition of the word. I said "what we don't get enough of". I never claimed that poeple can operate that way 24x7, least of all me. I would not claim to be perfect, I make mistakes all the time. In fact posting all of these politically oriented messages on CP is very likely one of them. If you just wait a few minutes I might make another. However… you could be my neighbor and put up "protect marriage" signs on your lawn and I would think you were an idiot. But if you ask me to help you carry your new big screen TV into your house I would still help you. If you offered me a beer while you tuned your new TV into the WWF and told me "That's real you know" I would think you were an idiot but I would not comment and just drink my beer and thank you for your hospitality. (Just in case you are wondering, yes that actually happened to me) The real problem is that there are far too many people that never interrelate with their fellow man that way and certainly many if not most of our Leaders don’t. "What we don't get enough of", it would be great just to get even just the smallest amount more, at least that is what I believe. Warm hearts, loving kindness and a stretched out hand of tolerance. I assume that is what you are referring to? Just so there is no misunderstanding, I stand firmly behind what I said and I guarantee that I live it. NEXT!

                              "No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai

                              -pete

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                                Where does Kerry stand on this issue.... today? ;) "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                                In the same place he always does, he want's to win the election :laugh:

                                "No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai

                                -pete

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                                  palbano wrote: There are 10 kinds of Republicans, Rich ones and Idiots. For a tree-hugging "love your neighbor" type Democrat, you sure are judgemental. "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                                  Mike Mullikin wrote: For a tree-hugging "love your neighbor" type Democrat, you sure are judgemental. No one has to love their neighbor if he craps in your yard, insults your wife, and cuts down all your trees. More to the point.. it pisses me off to here the righties spuoting about "hate". What sanctimonious crap; trying to play to left-wing guilt. In fact,I'd go so far as to say it's OK to hate someone if he kills your dog. It's not OK to hate him if he has sex with other men in the privacy of his own home.

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                                    Seems the candidates didn't make it back to town to vote. Clickety[^]

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                                    Anonymous wrote: Seems the candidates didn't make it back to town to vote. [big fat yawn] There was no need. They knew the procedural vote would fail; and if it didn't, they promised to come back to vote against the amendment. Does the phrase "red herring" mean anything to you?

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                                      "No one wants to discriminate against gays," responded Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah). "Simply put, we want to preserve traditional marriage." What a moron. He contradicts himself in just two sentences. -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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                                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah). Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: What a moron At first, I thought it was a pun :)


                                      Собой остаться дольше...

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                                        Where does Kerry stand on this issue.... today? ;) "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                                        crap... i can't come up with a snappy reply. all i can do is point out that the whole wlip-flopping meme relies on intentional ignorance of how the Senate works. for example, did you know that Bush was ready to veto any version of that $87B bill that contained any increase in National Guardsmen benefits? he would've sent it back and asked that they remove the part he didn't like. So, obviously, Bush hates the troops in certain circumstances... what a flip-flopper! (ah look, CP has hit the wall again :( ) Software | Cleek

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                                          Hi Mike, sure I can be judgmental in the strictest definition of the word. I said "what we don't get enough of". I never claimed that poeple can operate that way 24x7, least of all me. I would not claim to be perfect, I make mistakes all the time. In fact posting all of these politically oriented messages on CP is very likely one of them. If you just wait a few minutes I might make another. However… you could be my neighbor and put up "protect marriage" signs on your lawn and I would think you were an idiot. But if you ask me to help you carry your new big screen TV into your house I would still help you. If you offered me a beer while you tuned your new TV into the WWF and told me "That's real you know" I would think you were an idiot but I would not comment and just drink my beer and thank you for your hospitality. (Just in case you are wondering, yes that actually happened to me) The real problem is that there are far too many people that never interrelate with their fellow man that way and certainly many if not most of our Leaders don’t. "What we don't get enough of", it would be great just to get even just the smallest amount more, at least that is what I believe. Warm hearts, loving kindness and a stretched out hand of tolerance. I assume that is what you are referring to? Just so there is no misunderstanding, I stand firmly behind what I said and I guarantee that I live it. NEXT!

                                          "No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai

                                          -pete

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                                          palbano wrote: Just so there is no misunderstanding, I stand firmly behind what I said and I guarantee that I live it. One would never know it from reading your anti-Republican rhetoric. :rolleyes: "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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