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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    The NHL is Canada's secret weapon against the U.S. We're ever so slowly taking them over. They don't even notice...:suss: The US will be Canada's 11th province - except California - we don't want that. Unfortunately, since you have given the plan of conquest away, we have to dispose of you. :| John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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    In TNG half the actors were canadian :rolleyes: Except for the british captain of course ! The tigress is here :-D

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      In TNG half the actors were canadian :rolleyes: Except for the british captain of course ! The tigress is here :-D

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      Ah, TNG. Maybe I should indulge myself in that after a hard afternoon of Unreal Tournament. Your comment has ripped a hole in the space time continuum, and I feel compelled to mend it. :-D -- Arigato gozaimashida!

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      • D DRHuff

        ColinDavies wrote: Obviously after re-elected in 2008-9 invading Canada would be a priority. Do you really think you can spare the 200 marines required to do this? :laugh::laugh: Dave

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        Gary R Wheeler
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        I think you may have just insulted the USMC.


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        • M Marc Clifton

          Oh, let's see, I'll take a shot at this and enjoy the resulting flames. Richard Stringer wrote: (A) Rising cost of gasoline Promote alternative fuel research. This obviously would require pissing off the automobile lobby AND the oil lobby, but a long term solution is seriously needed. The Japanese are way ahead of us in this, which is pathetic. What the hell happened to Americans being the leaders in technology and innovation anyways? It seems that all the articles I read on innovation are the result of research done by other countries. How to pay for government sponsored research? Well, fighting fewer wars would help. Richard Stringer wrote: (B) Solving the education crisis No child left behind is a farce. I would remove all federal regulation, allow states and local governments to create educational programs that best suit their local economic/social issues, and I'd attempt to get rid of as much beaurocracy as possible so that money spent on education goes to teachers and children, not beaurocrats. Richard Stringer wrote: (C) Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) OK, creating a new infrastructure for hydrogen and/or electric powered cars and significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil seems like it would boost manufacturing jobs. Richard Stringer wrote: (D) The rising cost of health care and insurance. 1. Dramatically limit/eliminate medical malpractice lawsuits. 2. Make all tobacco products illegal. Shut down the cancer stick manufacturers. Period. (flame away, but the reality is that tobacco use costs billions of dollars in medical care every year). 3. Get CPians to write medical administration software that unifies the industry and eliminates 90% of the beaurocratic overhead. You forgot to mention the deficit and the looming social security disaster. And how DO you spell beaurocrat? Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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          Stan Shannon
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          Marc Clifton wrote: (A) Rising cost of gasoline Promote alternative fuel research. This obviously would require pissing off the automobile lobby AND the oil lobby, but a long term solution is seriously needed. The Japanese are way ahead of us in this, which is pathetic. What the hell happened to Americans being the leaders in technology and innovation anyways? It seems that all the articles I read on innovation are the result of research done by other countries. How to pay for government sponsored research? Well, fighting fewer wars would help. Agreed, except I think the best way to handle that is to give tax breaks to private companies doing the research themselves rather than funding such research directly by the government as other countries do. Promoting the country's entreprenurial spirit is always the best policy. I don't think the lobbyists are quite the spectre they are made out to be. The automobile and oil industries are not complete idiots. They will obviously attempt to eek out every last penny from fossil fuels, but as other energy tecnologies begin to compete more effectively, they will adapt or die. That should always be the way the U.S. competes with other nations. Marc Clifton wrote: (B) Solving the education crisis No child left behind is a farce. I would remove all federal regulation, allow states and local governments to create educational programs that best suit their local economic/social issues, and I'd attempt to get rid of as much beaurocracy as possible so that money spent on education goes to teachers and children, not beaurocrats. Agree completely,. Marc Clifton wrote: (C) Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) OK, creating a new infrastructure for hydrogen and/or electric powered cars and significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil seems like it would boost manufacturing jobs. Maybe. But the government should get out of the "job creation" mind set. Keep taxes low, let the economy function as it is supposed to and the jobs will be there. Marc Clifton wrote: (D) The rising cost of health care and insurance. 1. Dramatically limit/eliminate medical malpractice lawsuits. 2. Make all tobacco products illegal. Shut down the cancer stick manufacturers. Period. (flame away, but the reality is that tobacco use costs billions of dollars in medical care every year). 3. Get CPians to write medical administra

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            Oh, let's see, I'll take a shot at this and enjoy the resulting flames. Richard Stringer wrote: (A) Rising cost of gasoline Promote alternative fuel research. This obviously would require pissing off the automobile lobby AND the oil lobby, but a long term solution is seriously needed. The Japanese are way ahead of us in this, which is pathetic. What the hell happened to Americans being the leaders in technology and innovation anyways? It seems that all the articles I read on innovation are the result of research done by other countries. How to pay for government sponsored research? Well, fighting fewer wars would help. Richard Stringer wrote: (B) Solving the education crisis No child left behind is a farce. I would remove all federal regulation, allow states and local governments to create educational programs that best suit their local economic/social issues, and I'd attempt to get rid of as much beaurocracy as possible so that money spent on education goes to teachers and children, not beaurocrats. Richard Stringer wrote: (C) Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) OK, creating a new infrastructure for hydrogen and/or electric powered cars and significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil seems like it would boost manufacturing jobs. Richard Stringer wrote: (D) The rising cost of health care and insurance. 1. Dramatically limit/eliminate medical malpractice lawsuits. 2. Make all tobacco products illegal. Shut down the cancer stick manufacturers. Period. (flame away, but the reality is that tobacco use costs billions of dollars in medical care every year). 3. Get CPians to write medical administration software that unifies the industry and eliminates 90% of the beaurocratic overhead. You forgot to mention the deficit and the looming social security disaster. And how DO you spell beaurocrat? Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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            I will give you a 5. Although some details I disagree with. The general trend is very close to what I would have said. Marc Clifton wrote: Promote alternative fuel research. Some is already being done. One of my friends son did a intership with Sandia Labs and that was the focus. But yes not nearly enough. Item B: Education. I would also restrict the coaches salaries being many times the department chairpersons salary. Education is not a public sports club. Marc Clifton wrote: 1. Dramatically limit/eliminate medical malpractice lawsuits. Agree! Well... Do not get me started. Marc Clifton wrote: Make all tobacco products illegal. Just not practical, but I agree with the thought. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that can think of.

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              Marc Clifton wrote: (A) Rising cost of gasoline Promote alternative fuel research. This obviously would require pissing off the automobile lobby AND the oil lobby, but a long term solution is seriously needed. The Japanese are way ahead of us in this, which is pathetic. What the hell happened to Americans being the leaders in technology and innovation anyways? It seems that all the articles I read on innovation are the result of research done by other countries. How to pay for government sponsored research? Well, fighting fewer wars would help. Agreed, except I think the best way to handle that is to give tax breaks to private companies doing the research themselves rather than funding such research directly by the government as other countries do. Promoting the country's entreprenurial spirit is always the best policy. I don't think the lobbyists are quite the spectre they are made out to be. The automobile and oil industries are not complete idiots. They will obviously attempt to eek out every last penny from fossil fuels, but as other energy tecnologies begin to compete more effectively, they will adapt or die. That should always be the way the U.S. competes with other nations. Marc Clifton wrote: (B) Solving the education crisis No child left behind is a farce. I would remove all federal regulation, allow states and local governments to create educational programs that best suit their local economic/social issues, and I'd attempt to get rid of as much beaurocracy as possible so that money spent on education goes to teachers and children, not beaurocrats. Agree completely,. Marc Clifton wrote: (C) Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) OK, creating a new infrastructure for hydrogen and/or electric powered cars and significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil seems like it would boost manufacturing jobs. Maybe. But the government should get out of the "job creation" mind set. Keep taxes low, let the economy function as it is supposed to and the jobs will be there. Marc Clifton wrote: (D) The rising cost of health care and insurance. 1. Dramatically limit/eliminate medical malpractice lawsuits. 2. Make all tobacco products illegal. Shut down the cancer stick manufacturers. Period. (flame away, but the reality is that tobacco use costs billions of dollars in medical care every year). 3. Get CPians to write medical administra

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              Stan Shannon wrote: Agreed, except I think the best way to handle that is to give tax breaks to private companies doing the research themselves rather than funding such research directly by the government as other countries do. Promoting the country's entreprenurial spirit is always the best policy. I don't think the lobbyists are quite the spectre they are made out to be. The automobile and oil industries are not complete idiots. They will obviously attempt to eek out every last penny from fossil fuels, but as other energy tecnologies begin to compete more effectively, they will adapt or die. That should always be the way the U.S. competes with other nations. There is something to be said for public research as well - given appropriate and sensible organisation (ok, this is tricky), you could avoid unnecessary duplication of research and allow you to work on many more angles at once. And you need to get scientists and researchers trained up and educated for the private sector anyway, so they might as well do some useful research (or validating privately done work) while they're at it. There's also a patents issue to be reconciled - can we really afford to be wrangling over patents and other intellectual property stuff on an issue as potentially important as green technologies? Of course, tax breaks that encourage use of and research on "cleaner" technologies is a good idea nonetheless and should be encouraged.


              Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                Marc Clifton wrote: (A) Rising cost of gasoline Promote alternative fuel research. This obviously would require pissing off the automobile lobby AND the oil lobby, but a long term solution is seriously needed. The Japanese are way ahead of us in this, which is pathetic. What the hell happened to Americans being the leaders in technology and innovation anyways? It seems that all the articles I read on innovation are the result of research done by other countries. How to pay for government sponsored research? Well, fighting fewer wars would help. Agreed, except I think the best way to handle that is to give tax breaks to private companies doing the research themselves rather than funding such research directly by the government as other countries do. Promoting the country's entreprenurial spirit is always the best policy. I don't think the lobbyists are quite the spectre they are made out to be. The automobile and oil industries are not complete idiots. They will obviously attempt to eek out every last penny from fossil fuels, but as other energy tecnologies begin to compete more effectively, they will adapt or die. That should always be the way the U.S. competes with other nations. Marc Clifton wrote: (B) Solving the education crisis No child left behind is a farce. I would remove all federal regulation, allow states and local governments to create educational programs that best suit their local economic/social issues, and I'd attempt to get rid of as much beaurocracy as possible so that money spent on education goes to teachers and children, not beaurocrats. Agree completely,. Marc Clifton wrote: (C) Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) OK, creating a new infrastructure for hydrogen and/or electric powered cars and significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil seems like it would boost manufacturing jobs. Maybe. But the government should get out of the "job creation" mind set. Keep taxes low, let the economy function as it is supposed to and the jobs will be there. Marc Clifton wrote: (D) The rising cost of health care and insurance. 1. Dramatically limit/eliminate medical malpractice lawsuits. 2. Make all tobacco products illegal. Shut down the cancer stick manufacturers. Period. (flame away, but the reality is that tobacco use costs billions of dollars in medical care every year). 3. Get CPians to write medical administra

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                Hi Stan, I concur with your rebuttals. Good points! Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                  Oh, let's see, I'll take a shot at this and enjoy the resulting flames. Richard Stringer wrote: (A) Rising cost of gasoline Promote alternative fuel research. This obviously would require pissing off the automobile lobby AND the oil lobby, but a long term solution is seriously needed. The Japanese are way ahead of us in this, which is pathetic. What the hell happened to Americans being the leaders in technology and innovation anyways? It seems that all the articles I read on innovation are the result of research done by other countries. How to pay for government sponsored research? Well, fighting fewer wars would help. Richard Stringer wrote: (B) Solving the education crisis No child left behind is a farce. I would remove all federal regulation, allow states and local governments to create educational programs that best suit their local economic/social issues, and I'd attempt to get rid of as much beaurocracy as possible so that money spent on education goes to teachers and children, not beaurocrats. Richard Stringer wrote: (C) Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) OK, creating a new infrastructure for hydrogen and/or electric powered cars and significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil seems like it would boost manufacturing jobs. Richard Stringer wrote: (D) The rising cost of health care and insurance. 1. Dramatically limit/eliminate medical malpractice lawsuits. 2. Make all tobacco products illegal. Shut down the cancer stick manufacturers. Period. (flame away, but the reality is that tobacco use costs billions of dollars in medical care every year). 3. Get CPians to write medical administration software that unifies the industry and eliminates 90% of the beaurocratic overhead. You forgot to mention the deficit and the looming social security disaster. And how DO you spell beaurocrat? Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                  Ian Darling
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                  Marc Clifton wrote: beaurocrat? Try bureaucrat Bloody frenchies :rolleyes:


                  Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                  • R Richard Stringer

                    So you just won and now its time to back up some promises. What would be your Presidential action to resolve the following: (A) Rising cost of gasoline (B) Solving the education crisis (C) Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) (D) The rising cost of health care and insurance. These seem to be the main areas of concern in the domestic sector and I am of the school of though the the President can really do nothing about any of them but make empty promisies. But I wait to be enlightened. Remember you have to pay for this stuff somehow. No Utopian ideas please Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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                    Richard Stringer wrote: Rising cost of gasoline Well, you own Iraq now, don't you ? Richard Stringer wrote: Solving the education crisis Smack parents upside the head, and tell them they need to take responsibility for their own kids. Richard Stringer wrote: Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) Require that American companies manufacture their goods in the USA, and impose tarrifs on imported goods to make the playing field level. Richard Stringer wrote: The rising cost of health care and insurance. Tax fast foods, provide cheap or free exercise programs, so less people need health care. You're a nation of blimps over there... Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                      So you just won and now its time to back up some promises. What would be your Presidential action to resolve the following: (A) Rising cost of gasoline (B) Solving the education crisis (C) Creating jobs ( primarily in the manufacturing area ) (D) The rising cost of health care and insurance. These seem to be the main areas of concern in the domestic sector and I am of the school of though the the President can really do nothing about any of them but make empty promisies. But I wait to be enlightened. Remember you have to pay for this stuff somehow. No Utopian ideas please Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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                      (A)Not my problem for the most part. The invisiable hand will take care of the problem long term, as gas goes up ethanol, and biodiesel get better. (Both are energy positive in modern plants, so don't try that false argument that they are not) Miond I would watch this issue, because short term it can cause serious problems. Getting in the way of the invisiable hand isn't a good idea though. (B)Education is a LOCAL issue. If I wanted to solve education problems I'd run for local shcool board. My solution would be to repeal all federal laws relating to how a school is run. My only requirement would be that local schools provide the same opportunity for all students (ie no discrimination). (C) Why should we create manufacturing jobs? Ecconomic cycles happen. The bubble of the 1990s burst, it shouldn't be a surprize that we lost jobs. An issue to watch. Various ecconomic theories suggest things to do, but in generally I favor doing nothing. (D)Make the minimum deducatable for insurance $1000. When people have to pay for health care they will look at the cost. Suddenly they can decide if it is worth paying a A student doctor with a good reputation, or if the C student is good enough for their problem. Note that this action will take at least 30 years to have a large effect.

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                      • C ColinDavies

                        I didn't thiink such a large force was necessary. :-) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.

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                        Not for the French portion of Canada ( 5 or 6 would be enough). But the English part would be more difficult thus the need for the additional troops. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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