Q about Sonork
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Can't agree with you. Heh, man, if you are so scared about your security.... diconnect from internet. Nothing is 100% secured while you are connected :) But who will tell me why Sonork is better than ICQ? Philip Patrick "Two beer or not two beer?" Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com
Ten words : Sonork does forty eight bit encrypt of everything. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Hey, I see many people are using it. But can someone tell me what it is for? I see it just like another "twin" of ICQ. If it is not, so tell me why is it better? Philip Patrick "Two beer or not two beer?" Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com
Ignore John. If it does not come with a gun rack or a v8 engine then he does not like it... ;P Sonork to most people is another Instant Messenger, much like ICQ. It's main benefits are that it is small (memory wise), fast, easy to use and secure (messages are encrypted as they go out.) John obviously has not even tried Sonork as so far I have not recieved even one spam message or unwanted contact. Naturally this is more due to Sonorks lack of a huge user base, but that suits me just fine. Basically if you are looking for a new IM which you can persuade your friends and co-workers to switch to then get Sonork, it is better than the rest. But of course if your friends all use MSN (shame on them) or ICQ (second best) then you will need to keep those and install Sonork. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Ten words : Sonork does forty eight bit encrypt of everything. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
But that's only six words... :rolleyes: Or did I miss something obvious? ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I wrote a program in Visual C++ that allows me to send over 5,000 GIGABYTES of Video to every computer and TV Set connected to the Internet in "0" SECONDS (YES! ZERO seconds!)" - Bill SerGio, Professional W*nker
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But that's only six words... :rolleyes: Or did I miss something obvious? ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I wrote a program in Visual C++ that allows me to send over 5,000 GIGABYTES of Video to every computer and TV Set connected to the Internet in "0" SECONDS (YES! ZERO seconds!)" - Bill SerGio, Professional W*nker
(0)Ten (1)words : (2)Sonork (3)does (4)forty (5)eight (6)bit (7)encrypt (8)of (9)everything. Just like when you count your fingers David, you always count the pointer finger :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Ignore John. If it does not come with a gun rack or a v8 engine then he does not like it... ;P Sonork to most people is another Instant Messenger, much like ICQ. It's main benefits are that it is small (memory wise), fast, easy to use and secure (messages are encrypted as they go out.) John obviously has not even tried Sonork as so far I have not recieved even one spam message or unwanted contact. Naturally this is more due to Sonorks lack of a huge user base, but that suits me just fine. Basically if you are looking for a new IM which you can persuade your friends and co-workers to switch to then get Sonork, it is better than the rest. But of course if your friends all use MSN (shame on them) or ICQ (second best) then you will need to keep those and install Sonork. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Paul Watson wrote: Ignore John. If it does not come with a gun rack or a v8 engine then he does not like it... A) Nobody can possibly ignore me. I've proven that. B) It also has to have super glue and sufficient lubricants to gain my interest. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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(0)Ten (1)words : (2)Sonork (3)does (4)forty (5)eight (6)bit (7)encrypt (8)of (9)everything. Just like when you count your fingers David, you always count the pointer finger :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
Colin Davies wrote: Just like when you count your fingers David, you always count the pointer finger Sorry Colin but I have to go with David on this. When you say "n words: blah blah blah" you count the words after "n words", not "n words" as well. Like in the movies when the girl says to the guy "Two words punk, piss off" that is two words, even though overall she said five words. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Colin Davies wrote: Just like when you count your fingers David, you always count the pointer finger Sorry Colin but I have to go with David on this. When you say "n words: blah blah blah" you count the words after "n words", not "n words" as well. Like in the movies when the girl says to the guy "Two words punk, piss off" that is two words, even though overall she said five words. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
OK, Paul, I'll waste more bandwidth on this Paul Watson wrote: Like in the movies when the girl says to the guy "Two words punk, piss off" that is two words, even though overall she said five words. I know it's irrelevant but "what was this girls programming skills like?, Huh was she a CPian" When you allocate bits, bytes or words you must always remember the space taken up by the allocation and the NULL index. Zero or 0 allocation takes up space so we must incorporate this philosophy into our code, or the world would be full of empty arrays and matrixes. Life would be void. Also "Eight words" takes up two more letters than "Ten words", so I was economizing keystrokes Paul :-) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Hey, I see many people are using it. But can someone tell me what it is for? I see it just like another "twin" of ICQ. If it is not, so tell me why is it better? Philip Patrick "Two beer or not two beer?" Web-site: www.saintopatrick.com
One big reason you might want to sonork is if you are a CP addict. Sonork is full of CPians. Thus you get a sort of faster Lounge. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Paul Watson wrote: Ignore John. If it does not come with a gun rack or a v8 engine then he does not like it... A) Nobody can possibly ignore me. I've proven that. B) It also has to have super glue and sufficient lubricants to gain my interest. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Nobody can possibly ignore me. I've proven that. :-) Yeah, I can agree to that. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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OK, Paul, I'll waste more bandwidth on this Paul Watson wrote: Like in the movies when the girl says to the guy "Two words punk, piss off" that is two words, even though overall she said five words. I know it's irrelevant but "what was this girls programming skills like?, Huh was she a CPian" When you allocate bits, bytes or words you must always remember the space taken up by the allocation and the NULL index. Zero or 0 allocation takes up space so we must incorporate this philosophy into our code, or the world would be full of empty arrays and matrixes. Life would be void. Also "Eight words" takes up two more letters than "Ten words", so I was economizing keystrokes Paul :-) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
We musn't forget the hidden start-word and stop-word. Thus colin was right when he said 10 words. He'd have been wrong had he said 12 words. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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OK, Paul, I'll waste more bandwidth on this Paul Watson wrote: Like in the movies when the girl says to the guy "Two words punk, piss off" that is two words, even though overall she said five words. I know it's irrelevant but "what was this girls programming skills like?, Huh was she a CPian" When you allocate bits, bytes or words you must always remember the space taken up by the allocation and the NULL index. Zero or 0 allocation takes up space so we must incorporate this philosophy into our code, or the world would be full of empty arrays and matrixes. Life would be void. Also "Eight words" takes up two more letters than "Ten words", so I was economizing keystrokes Paul :-) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
On the left we have C++ coders. They have to do silly things like make sure their variables do not overrun into buffers or some such nonsense. They spend days debugging apps were a var is one byte too short. Poor, poor C++ coders. Then on the right, my side, we have VB and "smart" programmers who get on with writing good solutions, instead of having to worry about buffer overruns and variables which are too short (that sounds like discrimination by C++ coders to me.) The bottom line is that VB coders would say 8 words while C++ coders would say 10 words. Who is right? Or are we both right? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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On the left we have C++ coders. They have to do silly things like make sure their variables do not overrun into buffers or some such nonsense. They spend days debugging apps were a var is one byte too short. Poor, poor C++ coders. Then on the right, my side, we have VB and "smart" programmers who get on with writing good solutions, instead of having to worry about buffer overruns and variables which are too short (that sounds like discrimination by C++ coders to me.) The bottom line is that VB coders would say 8 words while C++ coders would say 10 words. Who is right? Or are we both right? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Some people may consider using VB for everything as being chicken. To afraid to go in deep into their programming and would like to stick to the BASICs. How come C++ has been voted the best windows programming language by several sources? Tell me that one Paul Watson wrote: The bottom line is that VB coders would say 8 words while C++ coders would say 10 words. Yes well you would like to save your forearm energy for something else wouldnt you ;) .NET or not .NET? MFC is the question......
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It's not better, nor is ICQ. It's another lemming tool that people here insist on using for instant communications. It is borne of ICQ and AIM, and is a dead weight on the internet. Instant messaging is a security hazard and an avenue for spam. You don't be like everyone else for the sake of being like everyone else or conformity. Resist. Rebel. Just say no. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: It's another lemming tool that people here insist on using for instant communications. It is borne of ICQ and AIM, and is a dead weight on the internet. Instant messaging is a security hazard and an avenue for spam. lol. You tell the world John. ;) Personally, I find IMs useful for keeping in touch with friends around the world...but as you say they can pose a security threat (I have our firewall setup to deny server rights to IMs. Our 2 machines are both "stealthed"). I haven't received any spam via an IM...but then I don't use ICQ or AIM. Could there be a connection I wonder? ;P Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++ 5.0/6.0
"I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;)) -
Ignore John. If it does not come with a gun rack or a v8 engine then he does not like it... ;P Sonork to most people is another Instant Messenger, much like ICQ. It's main benefits are that it is small (memory wise), fast, easy to use and secure (messages are encrypted as they go out.) John obviously has not even tried Sonork as so far I have not recieved even one spam message or unwanted contact. Naturally this is more due to Sonorks lack of a huge user base, but that suits me just fine. Basically if you are looking for a new IM which you can persuade your friends and co-workers to switch to then get Sonork, it is better than the rest. But of course if your friends all use MSN (shame on them) or ICQ (second best) then you will need to keep those and install Sonork. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Paul Watson wrote: But of course if your friends all use MSN (shame on them) or ICQ (second best) then you will need to keep those and install Sonork. Nah. Just install Trillian and you can talk to AIM, ICQ, IRC, MSN and Yahoo from one IM client. I was sceptical at first, but it's grown on me. I installed it to get rid of AIM (I have one friend who insists on using it), but found myself ditching MSN Messenger too. :-D There's no Sonork support as yet, but I guess it might happen if the user base gets big enough. Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++ 5.0/6.0
"I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;)) -
Paul Watson wrote: But of course if your friends all use MSN (shame on them) or ICQ (second best) then you will need to keep those and install Sonork. Nah. Just install Trillian and you can talk to AIM, ICQ, IRC, MSN and Yahoo from one IM client. I was sceptical at first, but it's grown on me. I installed it to get rid of AIM (I have one friend who insists on using it), but found myself ditching MSN Messenger too. :-D There's no Sonork support as yet, but I guess it might happen if the user base gets big enough. Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++ 5.0/6.0
"I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;))Trillian? I'll check it out... I've used ICQ, MSN, and AIM without getting any spam (that's what hotmail is for), by the way. And FYI, to date the only software I've found able to crash Win2K is AIM. Remarkable achievement for an otherwise useless web company:-) I've tried it three times, each time with the most current version, and within 3 to 5 days, down she goes! My wife likes to talk to me during sex. Oops, gotta go - she's on the other line, calling from the hotel again!
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On the left we have C++ coders. They have to do silly things like make sure their variables do not overrun into buffers or some such nonsense. They spend days debugging apps were a var is one byte too short. Poor, poor C++ coders. Then on the right, my side, we have VB and "smart" programmers who get on with writing good solutions, instead of having to worry about buffer overruns and variables which are too short (that sounds like discrimination by C++ coders to me.) The bottom line is that VB coders would say 8 words while C++ coders would say 10 words. Who is right? Or are we both right? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
*grin* This is the best troll I've seen for a while. Paul Watson wrote: On the left we have C++ coders. They have to do silly things like make sure their variables do not overrun into buffers or some such nonsense. They spend days debugging apps were a var is one byte too short. Actually, you're thinking of C. For exmaple, sprintf suffers this problem, ostringstream does not. Paul Watson wrote: Then on the right, my side, we have VB and "smart" programmers who get on with writing good solutions, instead of having to worry about buffer overruns and variables which are too short (that sounds like discrimination by C++ coders to me.) I must congratulate you on sticking with this line, you're deep in enemy territory, surrounded by *real* programmers, and you're not scared at all. I like that... Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Ten words : Sonork does forty eight bit encrypt of everything. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Four words - WHO GIVES A SHIT? IM programs are a waste of bandwidth and a scourge on the internet - period. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Four words - WHO GIVES A SHIT? Most of humanity defecate John, those who don't have some serious problems, :-) John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: IM programs are a waste of bandwidth and a scourge on the internet - period. It depends what you use them for like all tools. They have great uses in collaborative development projects where everyone is physically islolated. Imagine if you could IM other model ship builders for instructions on a collaborative effort. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Ten words : Sonork does forty eight bit encrypt of everything. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Fredrik Skoog wrote: It is actually 64 bits. I stand corrected, Thank you ! :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
